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Wow this was incredible, especially the door shaped detail behind the tower, that open green area and the cable cart stations! How I weep that this never got to be a fully fledged final world.... Also that bizarre alphabet. Do you think the alphabet or language it represents is hiragana or latin? Maybe even Italian given the terminology of Xehanorts music. I tried deciphering the code on some of the marks but very few letters repeated themselves which led me to think it was gibberish, but then I noticed actually letters do repeat in some places. There's also the Unversed symbol amongst the letters. Hmm....

Okay, I dunno if this has been posted and Im sure many already have thought something like this, but I still just wanted to share my thoughts on the future of the KH series Now that Kingdom Hearts 3 has finished the Dark Seeker saga and the story of Xehanort comes to a close, many fans are pondering the new tale that Nomura began in DDD and has built up in the background through Re:Coded and mainly KHUX and X Back Cover, the tale of the Foretellers. Amongst the biggest mysteries of this new arc is the Mysterious Black Box that Luxu's been lugging around. I have a crazy theory on what might be inside the box, but first, let's get an aerial view of the Foretellers and their place in the story. There are 7 major characters involved in the Age of Fairytales: The 5 Union leading Foretellers Aced, Ava, Gula, Invi and Ira, a 6th Foreteller named Luxu who wears the Black Coat, and The Foretellers' superior, the Master of Masters. All of the Foretellers have name schemes based on the Latin names of the **Seven Deadly Sins**, which loosely represent their behaviour during X Back Cover: Aced - Acedia - Sloth Ava - Avarice - Greed Gula - Gula - Gluttony Invi - Invidia - Envy Ira - Ira - Wrath Luxu - Luxuria - Lust If you noticed, there is a deadly sin not represented amongst the foretellers. It is Superbia - Pride Many people have wondered why this sin was left out in particular. Some have argued that "Superbia" is in fact the name of the Master of Masters. However these names are entirely specific, to our knowledge, to the Foretellers, and while he is clearly connected to them, the MoM is never referred to as a Foreteller. What is the Master of Masters in relation to the Foretellers? Well, he certainly has a Keyblade, the First and most Ancient Keyblade in fact according to Young Xehanort from the Re:Coded secret ending. No Name (which actually had no name) was the first Keyblade, made in the image of the original χ-Blade, something the MoM must have possessed and been able to wield. Nomura stated in an interview that the original Keyblades were "forged" by being drawn from the Hearts of the Wielders. No Name curiously shares the same pattern, keychain style, animal motif (confusedly thought to be a goat, but actually a lion according to Nomura) and design as the other Foretellers' key blades (aside from Luxu's original, assuming he even had one), aside from his own demonic eye having been infused into the blade. Interestingly in the Prologue of KH3 where we get the teaser for Xehanort and Eraqus' next chess game, the 7th Foreteller Black Piece is NOT a lion head like No Name's symbol, but a winged heart, the Master of Master's symbol. This begs the question: How and Why did the MoM make the first keyblade? If he already had the χ-Blade, a weapon of incredible power, why would he need to create an inferior weapon? Perhaps it was *meant for someone else*? Perhaps it was *made from the heart of someone else*? Now it is time to jump back to the Black Box that Luxu is lugging around. What do we know about this box? Maleficent believes the box contains "Hope". The MoM has instructed Luxu to NEVER open the box. Upon being told what is inside, Luxu is visibly shocked and asks "But why!?" The box has a Heart symbol on the lid with 13 outer spikes and 7 inner spikes The Heart on the box is inscribed with the word "χSuper" Its a pretty big box Wait, what was that last thing? The Heart on the box is inscribed with the word "χSuper" This is extreeEEemely interesting given "Super" would be a shortening of the 7th deadly sin, Superbia! But wait! Why the "χ" at the beginning? That seems a little artificial and out of place on a name. What's the deal? Remember from the finale of DDD that while χ is "Chi", it is also the Recusant's Sigil, a seemingly magical sigil that allows one to track another through eternity. Remember also that in X Back Cover, the main point of conflict between the Foretellers is that there is a "Traitor" amongst them according to the Book of Prophecy, a point of contention that eventually leads to the collapse of the Unions and the Keyblade War. One of the prerequisites for the Traitor according to the BoP is that they "did not follow the role the Master gave them", but this is quite strange, as when you look closely, not a single one of the Foretellers ever actually broke with the role the MoM gave them: Ira was told to be the Leader of the Foretellers Aced was told to be the right hand of Ira, but to overthrow him and take command if he felt Ira was less suitable Ava began the Dandelions Invi was told to observe the other foretellers and she did Gula was given the lost page and told to hunt the traitor. He didn't succeed but he did carry it out Luxu successfully passed down No Name/Gazing Eye through the eras and reclaimed it after Xehanort's defeat So which one of them was the traitor? None of them were. The second prerequisite of the traitor is that they "bear the sigil", meaning the Recusant's Sigil χ. This immediately points towards Luxu but I was skeptical and saw this as a Red Herring from the beginning. It's simply too obvious, too easy, and the "x" could pass for just a natural part of Luxu's name. We know of another name within the age of Fairytales that bluntly, blatantly and without any shadow of a doubt carries the Recusant's Sigil: χSuper. Super is not the name of the Master of Masters. Super is the name of the MoM's first pupil, the 7th Foreteller of Pride, who was sealed away inside the Black Box, and No Name was made from them. It makes perfect sense. How, of course, can someone be expected to fulfil their role as Foreteller when they are locked in a box!? Of course the Foretellers never mention Super, but that could just be narrative curtaining. There is also the matter of why they were sealed inside the Box, to which I can only point to their namesake, Pride. Pride is a sin that is deadly because of the cruel self-importance and ambition it generates, tearing down anything that gets in the way. I think Super may have tried to do what Aced turned up to 11, they tried to Overthrow the Master of Masters. Super is quite literally The Traitor - they rebelled against the Master of Masters, perhaps because they disagreed with his leadership or master plan, they wanted to stop the Keyblade War, or simply because they believed that they belonged at the Top. They were (presumably) defeated and the MoM had them marked with the Recusant's Sigil and sealed within the Black Box. Going full tinfoil here, this hypothetical "Sealing Away" of Super may be why the MoM "Faded" and appeared in Shibuya, similar to how Sora "Faded" due to abusing the Power of Waking to bring Kairi back. The MoM may have "abused" The Power of Waking in a different way in order to defeat Super and seal them within the box. Anyway, that's my theory on the 7th foreteller. This obviously raises questions on the MoM's motives, as it would imply he intended for the Traitor to never be caught and the Keyblade War to happen, as well as telling Luxu that the box may "NEVER EVER be opened" despite other characters describing it's contents as "Hope". On a personal note his theme music (still unreleased or un-ripped damnit!) that plays during the second case of Luxu is clearly quite evil sounding, and he has giant evil demon eyes so maybe he ain't as neutral as we all thought he was.

I wonder how much of this has to do with Osaka teams decisions and how much has to do with the Unreal Engine, a universal Engine that is flexible but becomes spaghetti when you try and code & adapt it to a tight ARPG like Kingdom Hearts. Makes me worry about FF7R a bit

I don't think it will be MoM or the foretellers, I think it will probably come out of left field. Secret boss was usually tied to the sequel and was someone we didn't know about.

What is your most tinfoil hat theory on the plot of Kingdom Hearts? Mine is

Idk why but Nomura just does this a lot he did the same back in Advent Children where Tifa lost to a literal fodder jenova clone

While I did like KH3s soundtrack I didn't like it nearly as much as the OSTs of the previous games- for every good ost there was one that sounded off or jilted and this is ESPECIALLY true for the boss music. Most boss songs minus Demon Tide theme sounded off or weird to me and the final boss music felt like a bad Soundcloud medley. At first I thought Yoko just didn't do a stellar job on this OST but I realised that the songs sound put together too different to her usual style, so was another composer responsible? The tracks I know were by Yoko was the Corona music, most of the field music and the Scala Ad Caelum theme that plays for a short time (all of which are 10/10), did a different composer do most of the boss fight tracks? Ps disliking some of the ost is just my personal opinion

I love her music so much

It is the symbol on the book of prophecies, so it's probably MoMs symbol The seven black pieces are MoM and the foretellers, though why Yen Sid has a sketch of it on the blackboard idk

Nope sorry, KH2 is simply the better game. Better mechanics weightier combat new characters better combat cinematics better progression better bosses BETTER FINALE HOLY SHIT Better soundtrack and more touching scenes, I only played the FM version last year (which is godly) and can safely say that vanilla KH2 >>>>>>>>>> vanilla KH3. We got to revisit worlds, Kairi at least did some things useful, the heartbreaking Roxas intro, closer combat, more explorable original worlds, etc The tromp through The World that Never was, all the way up to the final showdown with Xemnas and his ship, skyscrapers flying everywhere, the giant dragon and the ultimate Sora Riku bro team against Zebra xemnas remains THE single best boss fight in a video game to me, an unforgettable, epic finale you just want to play over and over again. Shooting down a dragon through an endless cityscape, slicing skyscrapers in goddamn HALF, the incredible pick up in the music as the dragon fuzes into the city, Xemnas whispering doubts in your ear as you and Riku baseball bat skyscrapers in his face, "We shall go together" endless reversals, "FIRE" "ARISE", "GUARD" "Why don't you vanish", Riku hand to hand BODYING xemnas off Sora, deflecting 1000s of lightsabers, and the final dual wielded finishing combo Anyone who thinks the lame no variety Org XIII Royale and Xehanort boss duel comes even close to that, i just cant get Honestly I think people are abusing the word nostalgia to dismiss valid reasons why people put KH2 over KH3

I noticed something else about the secret movies between the main titles KH1 & KH2, the two secret endings - the base game's and Final Mix's - both are roughly the same length The base secret movie is ~1:30 minutes long, and The Final Mix movie is ~3:00 minutes long Now whats interesting about KH3's secret ending, is that it is not 1:30 minutes long like the other two, but it has something significant happen at exactly the 1:30 minute mark. Also from this pattern, the "big DLC" may possibly contain a secret ending at least 3:00 mins long as well.

Here is a list of all Vs XIII references to be found in Kingdom Hearts 3. Some are just speculation and I marked these with a '?' but the others are clearly references Commercial Break & Toy Box Game trailer is "Verum Rex" which means "true king" or maybe also "king of truth" just as Noctis is the True King Main character has dark silver hair and red and blue eyes, whereas Noctis had dark silver hair in the earliest Vs XIII trailer, alongside red eyes that were later changed to blue Main characters name is Yozora which translates from Japanese to "Night Sky". Noctis Caelum has the exact same meaning but in Latin Main characters mage friend looks like a red haired Versus XIII Prompto Main characters guarding friend is a black haired Ignis with Gladio's body The magical damsel looks like a Brown haired Stella, and she's wearing a star necklace The limited edition box art shows a flurry of falling swords, like the swords Noctis summons and uses Rex the Dinosaur says he is stuck on the Bahamut boss, which was a scrapped boss fight in FFXV The back cover of the Verum Rex cd case says "That's the story of the King of Truth - Reclaim your Heart", similar to the phrase "Reclaim your Throne" on FFXVs back cover Ultima Weapon: Soras ultimate weapon's final form summons blades all around him that fly about, just like Noctis' blades from the first Versus XIII trailer When Sora guards with Ultima weapon whilst in Final Form, ethereal blades encircle him, just like Noctis in the first Versus XIII trailer when he is getting shot at by military forces Compare this to

I think the eyes are another Noctis reference but maybe it could double as a Switch reference, but they would have to downgrade the graphics from Unreal again so I dunno

Good god no, no more KH games we need to buy a new exclusive console to play!

Wow this sounds great, Nomura really needs a breather though, still going with DLC while he's working on 7 Remake must be pretty gruelling From a google translate of the article I got this: So it sounds like "Critical Mode" is going to be more than just a numbers adjustment this time

Im sure most of us have seen the secret ending and might be wondering ''what comes next'', to which I must point out that long before a new game, we will be getting a large KH3 DLC, paid and akin to an expansion (NOT a Final Mix). This is my attempt to unravel this DLC based on the ending and previous trends with 0.2. Keep in mind that most of this is probably total BS. That said, let us continue. And that's my theory for the DLC. What do you think It will be?

Did anyone here see the possible leak about a FF Versus XV that came out some years ago? It claimed that there was going to be a new game with the original plot and gameplay from Versus XIII soon, directed by Nomura, and that it would be teased in the "Versus XIII world " in KH3. The mention of a "Teaser in the Versus XIII world in KH3" in the leaks (which are from 2016) is very very curious, as Nomura stated in an interview that he would not make KH3 if he could not have Toy Story, and Lo and behold, Toy Story is where we learn of Verum Rex, an obvious mirror to Versus XIII! Going on the uncanny similarities to the leaks, which I believe are real, and what we got, my assumption is THIS: 1. KH3 will have one big DLC that will be set in Shibuya with TWEWY and also Versus 13 influence, and set the groundwork for the MoM in the next KH game 2. Verum Rex will be revealed to be a KH-independent standalone game, in accordance with the FFVersusXV leak