Finn and vigor

I've been working on a theory regarding Ventus that could ultimately destroy the line of logic of why he's not aging in Castle Oblivion while in his sleep because if you think about it, it's never been directly stated that the reason why Ventus isn't aging is because he has no heart inside of him within the Castle so in my eyes I think there is a possible "different" reason why Ventus hasn't been aging. Keep in mind that this involves spoilers for Union Cross so leave now if you don't want to be spoiled (although I guess that's pretty obvious lol). Ok so here goes: I do have 1 possible method as to why Ventus hasn't been aging which will not only solve the aging thing in Union Cross but a lot of others that have been speculated for years. Now this will get a little confusing so I'll just say it right here to get it out there: I believe that Ventus (specifically the one in Birth By Sleep) is actually a Replica/Puppet based off the Ventus we see present in Union Cross. A replica very similar towards the Riku replica and Xion. Now I know what your thinking "How the HELL would that make any sense?!?!" but please stop and think about it. Considering the replica's are exact copies of their original selves, that would most likely mean that they don't age at all as they are "Exact" copies. Now of course one flaw with this is that it's not been officially been confirmed if the replica's can age or not so that tiny detail could destroy this whole theory BUT I do have 1 more detail that link towards this being possible and another detail that can link to another mystery. They both come from BBS within Ventus's visit of Radiant Garden so try to remember. One of them is the moment where Evan/Vexan makes his appearance and has this exact quote: "Never mind him he's a special case" towards Dilan and then after both the guards leave "A heart completely devoid of darkness, very questionable." This implies that Evan must know something about Ventus, maybe that it was "his" creation because we all know Vexan was the one who made the replica program in CoM so whose to say he had that program set up even before those events? And finally the second detail is the next scene regarding Evan which is the one where Ventus saves Ienzo from a wave of Unversed. Here's the quote here: " I see we owe you our thanks, we have done our best to raise the boy since his poor *parents* are not here to do it." and afterwards "No thank you for keeping Ienzo out of harms way and well I can already see it that we are destined to cross paths again". Again implying Evan must know something about Ventus BUT that's not all that's interesting here. Remember the character "Blaine" that was introduced in Union Cross? It is my firm belief that Ienzo's so called "Father" is none other than Blaine. Now I'm not gonna say "that must mean Ienzo is a replica of Blaine too" because as you can clearly see Ienzo has aged throughout the games so that's false. BUT I do have a strong feeling that the two are still connected because I find the fact that Evan mentioned "Parents" to be a bit unnatural. Because come on, when did the character's parents ever get mentioned in this series? lol but seriously, because of the fact that they mentioned parents of a "not very significant" character does raise a question mark so with that in mind I feel like there's something more to him than meets the eye. (besides Zexion does have a his "Book of Retribution" which does look similar to the book of Prophecies). And honestly from this logic it points to the possibility that Evan could have been alive within the events of Union Cross just as Lauriam and Ventus was which leads to another thing worth mentioning. If Evan made a Replica of Ventus, then he must have had "known' who Ventus was for a long time and considering the line "I have a feeling we are destined to cross paths again" corresponds to the fact he "knows" he's gonna meet Ventus at some point which could also mean that he knew about the 5 dandelion leaders includiing Lauriam, Skuld, and Ephemer, (or at least the fact that he knew who they were, not that he met all of them). But here's my last mind blowing connection: What if Evan was acquainted with Blaine at some point? Maybe they were friends as Keyblade wielders in the Foreteller unions? But something happens during an event after the War which causes a terrible tragedy to happen to Blaine and at that point Evan swore to himself to protect and care for his "Son" and then eventually the "insert the reason why they are in the future here" happens and they live in radiant garden till the events of KH1 (as well as losing his keyblade in the process). But in BBS Evan was acting a little bit like a "father figure" towards Ienzo so maybe that was because of this (only a little though as it was only 1 moment so I do see that as a tiny flaw here). And not only that but Vexan seemed really pissed towards Marluxia at times within CoM which could lead to the possibility that Lauriam actually killed Blaine and not just Strelitzia? But one flaw I must point out here is that Vexan's attitude towards Zexion is quite contradictory towards what I'm suggesting so I will admit that and I also do realize how far-fetched this is so I'm %100 sure I will have even more flaws here so feel free to inform me of any more of those and a few uncertainties. (and sorry but I had to link the fact that Vexan could have been a keyblade wielder too ) But other than all the other info here the overall gist of this theory is that Vexan made a Puppet Replica of Ventus to remind himself of a boy he once knew (which would later be found by Xehanort or possibly "Given" to him) and took Ienzo (Blaine's son) under his care to give his respects towards Blaine. (again I realize how far-fetched and convoluted this is so please point out anything necessary). But with that I am almost completely SURE that there is a connection between Evan, Ventus, Blaine, and Ienzo so this theory is just the warmup!

I wasn't saying that she was coming back here but that the possibility is still there. But I mean I just find the fact that Strelitzia gets introduced and 2 weeks later she dies to be a bit unnatural so I just have a gut feeling there's something more to her death than meets the eye. Like you said though she could be dead forever but I'm only saying this from the flower connections to Ventus here which got my brain thinking about the birds flying in Sora's DTTH. If those birds weren't there I wouldn't have suggested this possibility.

After watching a few KH2 and BBS LPs i've noticed a very small detail that could provide a hint towards Strelitzia's possible return. Well not that as a return so to say, just that she could be connected to Sora in some way. Now if you look closely at Sora's and Roxas's Dive to the Heart (specifically the very end of both of the opening cut scenes) you'll notice a flock of pure white birds flying off in the distance. I believe those birds are doves (correct me if I'm wrong) but you should consider what this could symbolize. Strelitzia means bird of paradise right? Could this show some sort of connection between Strelitzia and Sora? And not only that if you look at Ventus's station of awakening right after Ventus and Vanitas's merged voices say "Open the Door" it's not a flock of birds this time but pure white "flowers" flying in the distance. Could these flowers be referring to Lauriam in some way? And considering how they are "White" and not red, could this symbolize at BBS's point in the timeline Lauriam may possibly have been a good guy at that point? (if he was running about that is). I feel like if the next Union Cross update shows that Lauriam has "White" flowers instead of his red cherry blossoms that there has to be some meaning behind the colors considering red cherry blossom's represent death.

What I meant was I felt like those characters don't feel as important or significant as the others. Sorry, I used the wrong terms. But you are right about Vexan (I honestly forgot that he had that major role in CoM)

The organization to me are the most fascinating characters within the Kingdom hearts lore but there is one thing that REALLY bugs me with a large majority of the members in the organization. That is the fact that most of the members feel unrelated to the main plot of KH specifically Xaldin, Lexeues, Zexion, Siax, Demyx, Luxord, and Larxene. The rest of the members Xemnas, Axel, Xigbar, Vexan, Roxas, and now recently Marluixa have had at least some importance within the KH lore which really bugs me because honestly I'll admit that the overall main reason why Xigbar/Braig is my favorite member is because of how much importance he has with Xehanort as his human form Braig is technically Xehanort's right hand man. I do hope Nomura can somehow make each individual member have at least some BIG importance in the story of KH3 because considering how the rest of the members that I just mentioned feel so bland compared to the others in the KH story as of right now. And I do mean every member within the organization like I would love to see some sort of History being explained between Aleues and Dilan since they both were guards in Radiant Garden or a possible connection between Ienzo, Evan, and Blaine. (I'm not giving up on that!) Now I know some people may disagree with me here but I am honestly refreshed about the recent Union Cross update involving Lauraim which to me it looks interesting as it sounds like Marluxia is gonna have a BIG part in the story of UC which is pretty refreshing considering how little screen time he has had in KH. And I honestly HOPE Nomura somehow ties the other 3 Organization members within Xchi and make them feel SUPER important if at all possible. (and lets be honest here, where else can the origins of Demyx, Luxord and Larxene be explained?). If I have to be honest here though, I won't be surprised if Luxord ends up being the Master of Masters or some crazy plot twist like that. lol, i'm Kidding (but I only say that because of Nomura's fascination with Luxord, that to me raises a red flag that Luxord will play some huge important role at some point in time). But what Organization member do you want to see get expanded on? I'd say Luxord considering we literally know nothing about him other than that he's a poker addict.

Honestly (this may shock some people) but not really any of the battle quotes have ever really annoyed me, Hell any of them in the whole franchise. I think its because I've played KH2 so many times in my life that i Just got so used to them, especially towards the other entries. But if i had to pick one I'd say "get up on the Hyrda's back!!!" But even that one isn't that bad.

i'd say Maleficent. I mean she had that appearence in Final Fantasy 8 as the final boss. (P.S. I know it wasn't her lol)

You should have finished reading it though, lol. I wasn't saying that Namine was exactly Strelitzia's Nobody, just that they were connected. (I mean it's pretty obvious at this point that Namine is Kairi's nobody) but here's what I'm saying. Maybe Namine's appearance is based off of Strelitzia the same exact way Roxas is based off of Ventus meaning Strelitzia's heart somehow ended up inside Ventus's and after that ventus's Heart went into Sora thus once Roxas and Namine were created Roxas took Ventus's appearance and Namine's based hers on Strelitzia. and let's be honest here, is Nomura really gonna drop Strelitzia's character only after 2 weeks? Like I said, I'm not proposing that Strelitzia became a Nobody thus creating Namine. Just that Namine has the Appearance and memories of Strelitzia which is the same way with the Roxas and Ventus thing. Besides after Eraqus's death his Heart went into Terra so maybe the same thing happened as Strelitzia's went into Ventus at some point? And I do notice the appearances of Namine and Kairi are quite similar but idk, the main connections I've thought of are based off of Marluxia's knowledge of Namine and Namine's similar dreams of not being alone which do connect to Strelitzia a bit. You do have a point with the Angel-like Nobody thing with Marluxia's final form though. Also I do realize that the title can be a bit misleading so I'll edit that a bit.

True. But idk, I do realize my points are a bit far-fetched but the connections to me sound pretty concrete. I guess I need more solid proof

Remember when I said Strelitzia could possibly be Larxene? Well I take it back (only because I took a second look at both characters eyes and they don't match at all. I guess I am color blind lol.) BUT I do have 1 more possibility I have to share and I feel like this one is far more concrete. And to be perfectly honest I'm surprised no one yet has talked about this possibility yet (brace yourselves). What I'm about to suggest is gonna question a certain character's backstory, one that you will all obviously recognize. As I said before the only 2 female Nobodies in the KH franchise are Larxene and Namine and I concluded on Larxene as Namine wouldn't make much sense BUT I think that was my biggest problem here. Because without a doubt I will say for CERTAIN Namine has to be this so called "nobody" that Strelitzia became. Let's first talk about the connections and I have between Namine and Strelitzia which I have 2 right now: 1. Namine has said time and again in CoM that she wanted to meet Sora as her "Friend" and went along with Marluxia's scheme to just do that since she was always "Alone" and if we consider Strelitzia's "wants" in Union Cross all she wanted was to have "Friends" exactly like Namine. and 2. How did Marluxia even know of Namine's existence in the first place? I always wondered about this for a LONG time because Namine had just been born right around Sora's encounter with Castle Oblivion so how did Marluxia even have the time to find Namine and use her powers to meddle with Sora's memories? Maybe because he had "met" her before and had knowledge of her existence. (Not from the fact that he could have "Killed" her but just that he knew who she was and could do.) Now before you say "But she's kairi's nobody!" I'm not proposing that she actually IS Kairi's Nobody as throughout the series it's pretty clear that Namine is the Nobody of her. Then how would this make sense? Now consider thus: Why is Namine blond in the first place and not the sort of reddish hair like kairi? From what the other Nobodies throughout the series we have seen that their original selves look almost exactly the same as their Nobody (Lea and Axel for example) but from Roxas's character we assumed that the Human forms looked completely different. Regarding Roxas remember that Namine was created the same way as Roxas that being Sora's sacrifice? And from BBS we learned that the reason why Roxas has that face of his is because of Sora's connection to Ventus. Now let's think about this, Roxas has the identity of Ventus right? What if (here it comes) that Namine is VERY similar to that connection that being that she has the identity of Strelitzia's face and not Kairi's? Think about it, if you look at both strelitzia's and Namine's faces (other than the color) they do both look quite similar and you will also notice that they both have a white-ish kind of skirt on so theres a connection too. As to how exactly this could have happened though, maybe at some point in Union Cross Strelitzia's heart becomes apart of Ventus's (just as ventus's became apart of Sora's) thus connecting to Kairi's Nobody as Namine was born the same way and time Roxas was. Besides don't you think it's odd that Namine's hair is Blond and not Red and I have to admit that I'm honestly surprised a similar theory like this wasn't even made like 5 years ago because if you look at Namine's and Kairi's faces they are not as alike as you would think. (kind of like when you compare Roxas's and Sora's face in KH2 which from that aspect I would have assumed people would think Namine's face was actually someone else's). And here's the last thing I should bring up. With the fact that Roxas is for SURE gonna return in KH3, why not bring Namine back as well but through this method? (I do realize the frustrations with Roxas being back in KH3 and I can only tell the same frustrations will be with this) but come on, I feel like Namine compared to Roxas needs more of that screen time. I mean who else will the community ship Roxas with if Namine's not around? (excluding Xion because I ship her with Riku honestly)

Umm why do you think i'm even on this fan site in the first place? Lol but since I have to exclude Kingdom Hearts then i'd have to go with Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney. Those games honestly rival my love for KH (and I didn't know that would even be possible). But the things that make love those games are just the Characters and the overall themes surrounding the Plot and those characters which is one reason why I love Kingdom hearts as well. But I feel like AA does it best with how each individual title feels like a completely different game with it's own unique plot (even though each sequel is pretty much exactly the same gameplay-wise as the ones before it, lol.) Oh and the puns in AA, (my god the puns).

Wait Nomura said it was continuing even after KH3s release? Not that I'm complaining (because to be perfectly honest the Xchi games are my favorite in the entire KH franchise when it comes to story) but that's a little baffling. I just assumed it was getting close to the end considering the Xchi cutscenes were almost halfway through when they showed the Unchained Xchi logo for the second time after the Ava and Ephemer conversation but if I'm wrong then yay lol. (like I said the story within Xchi is REALLY interesting in my eyes so I'm not complaining one bit)

Well considering KH3 is getting closer in 2018 (i'm guessing it will release in August or something like that) than i can assume if a new Story update gets released every Month then it's most likely gonna be concluded by June and from what we've got so far I have a feeling were almost halfway through the lore within Union cross. So maybe like 8 more updates left? If that's the case then I think it would make sense for a new update for every month from now on.

The connection is really the Green Eyes, Lauriam's possible connection to Strelitzia, and the fact that from the theories that Strelitzia could have been turned into a Nobody could lead into the possibility of that Nobody being Larxene (considering shes the ONLY female Nobody in the franchise we don't know anything about). But like i said, those are the only connections i have at this point in time so i think we need more concrete evidence for this.

When did Larxene say that? I don't remember a line like that. I'm guessing it was within 358? (I'll admit that I never unlocked all the hidden messages in that game) But yeah Namine probably wouldn't be the cause here. Besides, she can only manipulate people who are connected to Sora's memories right? So I'm guessing Ava did something or at least someone from the Xchi era to change Strelitzias memories.

yeah sorry, lol. In an easier explanation Marluxia used some memory powers to turn streletzia into Larxene by changing her personality. that better? And yes I do realize how far-fetched this theory is. but I mean Larxene has to be connected to Lauriam in some way right? unless a character named Arlene shows up in UC but idk, if strelitzia is confirmed to be a Nobody then it would connect to Larxene a "bit" with the green eye resemblance. but like you said, it doesn't haven't that much clout at this point in time.

Yes I know the original human forms are the name with the X taken out. Didn't I already mention that? lol. But what I meant was that Marluxia might have done something to Strelitzia to make her into Larxene. As to how I'll explain: At some point in time Strelitzia, after becoming a Nobody, lost her memories and was roaming the world. Strelitzia's Killer (possibly Lauriam) realizes that she is still alive during the events of BBS-KH1 (don't ask why he would still be alive) and it is around this time that Namine was born. Before the events of Chain of Memories Marluxia (now a Nobody) finds Strelitzias nobody and tells her real name is Arlene and through the magic of Namine's memory powers he rewrites Strelitzia into the personality we all know and love known as Larxene. He then places memories inside her to make her believe that Marluxia is a partner to her and make sit where she is Loyal to him no matter what as his own "Puppet" (which was what Marluxia was trying to make Sora into in CoM). And not only that with this new personality, Larxene would be known as a uncaring woman meaning anyone she encountered would just dislike and hate her thus destroying her dreams of making friends. (Way to make Marluxia sound like even more of an asshole lol). Now I do realize this is really far fetched but to be perfectly honest I WANT this to happen. To me Larxene has always been my least favorite Original KH character for being an annoying, Unlikable bitchy villain but if this theory becomes true I feel like it could rehabilitate her as a character and make her more likable as well. Plus Larxene must have some connection with Marluxia some how with her helping him overthrowing the Organization so the connection with Lauriam is possible. But if it's proven that marluxia meddled with her personality with Namine's powers she could become a tragic character thus making her more interesting (which is my biggest flaw with her character) and the Green eye resemblance does point the possibility of her being Strelitzia. (but I do realize namine's powers limits to only sora's memories so idk if the Namine thing would be the cause here). Although I am CONFIDENT in this theory. Not 100% of course but I do have a very strong feeling with this. Besides how else is Nomura gonna crush our heart and Soul with another character besides Roxas? I know the names don't match up but isn't that what Nomura wants us to think? Of course when u add an X to the name Streletzia it obviously doesn't make Larxene but you should consider what Marluxia was planning to do with Sora in Chain of Memories. Sora at the very beginning of that game acted very similar to the KH1 Sora BUT as the game progresses and after his memory gets messed with it's almost like he's an entirely different person. If you think about it our memories are what shape us as Humans to who we are so if someone changed even one BIG memory it could change our beliefs, self, and "Personalities". So here's what I'm proposing: what if Marluxia/ Lauriam had already meddled with ones Memory and not only that CHANGED their personality, Beliefs, and their way of life. I believe that person to be Larxene aka strelitzia. Now of course the only concrete evidence I have are the green eyes which isn't very much I'll admit and the fact that they don't serve any connection other than those green eyes BUT idk I still have a big feeling this could actually be true. Because all Strelitzia wanted was to have friends and she died without having any (her Chirithy probably wasn't her friend either thinking about it) so I feel like in that sense it sort of connects to strelitzia. as to why think about it, because here's another thing I want to bring up. What if not only did Lauriam killed Strelitzia, turned her into a nobody, and changed her personality, Maybe he specifically made Larxene's personality an Unlikeable, Bitchy Monster and made it to where she would do his bidding in order to make it where she would not make any friends thus destroying her past dreams of doing so. I do realize how Far-fetched this is but honestly a part of me WANTS this to happen because I think it would be brilliant if Nomura made an annoying, uninteresting character but then later make it where her story is one of the most depressing (and I'll admit if this is true then it would be even sadder than Roxas's tragic story). But then again it wouldn't make sense if Marluxia used Namine to change Larxenes/Arlenes/strelitzia's memories because Sora most likely has no connection towards her for it to work (or does he?). lol no, BUT I do strongly believe in this so it would obviously had to be done from a different unknown method. Besides I feel like the add the X to the name to figure out who it is method is gonna backfire someday (becasue Nomura hates the obvious)

Oh if this actually happens I can't to hear the faces of the Strelitzia fans go dark . But from the recent artwork there have been theories that Strelitzia may have been turned into a Nobody after he So called death and I 99% agree but I feel like there is something that people should keep in mind and that is the possible connection to a Nobody we already Know. If you haven't already figured it out (because she is technically the only Female Nobody aside from Namine) I bealive Larxene may have some connection to Strelitzia's Nobody. Now I do realize that adding the X to Strelitzia does not make the name "Larxene" so theres my biggest flaw here but from both designs I do sense a small connection from their Hair with the hair sort of sticking out a lot. Now if this is true then it would pretty much confirm that Lauriam isn't strelitzias killer because as we see in CoM Larxene is working with Marluxia to take over the Organization so that wouldn't make sense "unless" she lost her memories or something (which could be possible but we need more evidence to support it). although if she did lose her memories it would technically mean Larxenes personality in CoM isn't her true colors because I mean if you think about it in CoM when Marluxia messed with Sora's memories it sort of changed Sora's personality as well because our memories are what makes us who we are if that makes any sense but with that in mind Marluxia could have possibly erased Larxen's memores ass well and made her into his own "puppet".(aww shit I broke my argument of him being actually a good guy here) BUT here is the biggest evidence I have and that is they both have green eyes. If this theory becomes true make sure to take a picture of your broken heart and send it to me will you? (sorry couldn't find anything bigger than this) EDIT: I have a better explanation on a quote down below. I sort of rushed this sorry.

Embrace the Pancakes everyone. Goro Akechi will be so happy.

true, I forgot that Detail. Sorry it's actually been awhile since I've seen the full design of the Armor.

One thing sorta clicked today and that is the Armor Xion wore in 358 could actually be Strelitzia's. Now a lot of people have been speculating that that Armor will most likely be worn by Sora in KH3 which I agree with BUT it obviously wasn't worn by him during the events of BBS to DDD so it couldn't have originally been his. Plus the armor looks kind of like a female pair of armor so that does shoot down a number of possibilities with the Male KH characters so from this I think it was worn by a female that being Strelitzia. But the last thing I want to point out is the most important one and that is the nobody Symbol placed on the Armor in Xion's boss fight. This to me shows the armor most likely belonged to a Nobody beforehand and who else at this point has been speculated of being a nobody specifically from the new Nomura Artwork? Strelitzia. And to add onto this, Xehanort's Keyblade Armor in BBS (the No Heart Boss Fight) has a Nobody symbol on it as well. Could his armor have been originally assigned to someone else as well? Maybe Luxu or the MoM for example?

Well nothing except Rayman but I wouldn't consider that to be a thing to get hyped over. I only preordered it for Family game time reasons lol.

Yoko Taro. Because who doesn't want really depressing deaths, horribly Non human events, and moments that will make you question the meaning of life to absolute crush your heart and soul? Plus we'd finally get to see a chirithy order a hit on it's Wielder so that they wouldn't learn some hidden truth!!! That would be awesome!!! (oh wait)

Now that Marluixa is confirmed to be relavent to Xchi (after immediately after i made a theory about it lol) This makes me think that Larxene, Demyx, and Luxord HAS to be around as well. If you think about, where else could their origins take place anyway? I'll be perfectly honest here: I was sort of expecting Marluxia (or Luriam) to be apart of the Xchi Era. Now of course I didn't have evidence back then but from Nomura's quote "Every Character will be resolved by the end of KH3"that told me that Marluxia's and the other 4 Organization member's origins would take within either Union Cross or KH3. I don't think the origins would be revealed in KH3 so that could only mean that Marluixa had to have some connection to Daybreak Town in a sense. Besides radiant garden, twilight town, or The Land of departure wouldn't make much sense if those were where we learn the missing 4's origins. Now you can argue that in KH3 Lauriam's origins would be explained in a Brand New Original World but idk that honestly wouldn't feel right if that was the case so this method sounds more plausible (regardless of the fact how is it possible that Marluxia is alive back then). But I'm pretty sure Larxene and the other 2 have to be connected to this somehow because like I said: Where else could their origins be? Oh and also Ienzo (I'm not letting that theory go people. Blaine is somehow connected to Ienzo, I'm sure of it!)

I literally just woke up to the Story update. Is it who I think it is?