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I think their happy endings are shown during the credits (as is Belle's) but I totally agree on the theory of maleficent stealing them soon after and maybe even putting those worlds to sleep (it's her speciality after all) If most worlds and characters slept most of the 10 years from BbS to KH1 it explains why they didn't grow older!

Thank you, I've been working on this ending for a while. Correction: Trashing DDD is the second best thing that could happen to KHIII. I just can't imagine KHIII without finally seeing some more romantic Sora+Kairi interaction. Sora and Kairi are so cute together this is my top-priority and even if everything else gets worse and very DDD focused I might even play the game just to see some romance, haha

But it is a real good theory! It totally makes sense!

I think Ariel could not breath out of water for a ong period, that's why it would create problems having her sit in Hollow Bastion for too long. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I seeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I never thought of it that way! But to be honest, Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora already got married at the end of BbS. Do you really think they are still virgins?? According to this Theory Ariel is the only princess who has a daughter in the Disney sequel, none of the other princesses do. And do you think Kairi would lose her status as PoH IF (big IF) she got together with Sora in KHIII?? Maybe there are more than 7 princesses?

Skip to the End, I think my ending theory is really good, haha

Ariel should have taken Alice's place. Originally Ariel was planned to be one of the PoH but was replaced with Alice cuz the developers thought it would be too difficult to bring Alice out of the water and take her to Hollow Bastion. While I do see the difficulties in having a mermaid sitting on the stone chapel floor in hollow bastion (and Disney refusing to allow this because she couldn't breath or at least notr for long out of water), I DO think it would have worked. They could have had Ursula luring Ariel to become a human (KH2 Atlantica Plot) and then Riku would have kidnapped Ariel in Human form. I definitely can see Ariel standing in the Chapel. Even Mermaid Ariel would have worked if you imagine her fishtail disappearing into that crystal in the grand hall. And she would have been sleeping anyway but I guess it would have created problems with her being a party memebr in Atlantica and all. My main problem with Alice is that I don't see her having a PURE heart of light (especially in the Movie!) and Ariel has a much more innocent temper than Alice.

Imagine how awesome KHIII could have been if it skipped from CODED right to KHIII: (OLD) master Xehanort returns and wants to recreate a Keyblade war by recruiting many Disney and Final Fantasy villains besides some new Original Character bad guys. Yen Sid leads his army consisting of Sora, Riku, Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Aqua and Ven, they clash and the good guys are assisted by some new Original characters that are drawn into the war. Sora is the only main character and travels to many different worlds with Donald and Goofy. At certain fights he gets help from Mickey and the others like in KH2. Drive forms are back and Sora can use the original 5 but also gains new ones. Reaction commands are more prominent and it is possible to enter command styles this way. Sora can summon actual people like in KH1 rather than out-of-place roller-coasters and parade floats. New Worlds include “Tangled”, “Frozen”, “Duckburg” (whooo-oo), “Shibuja”, “Louisiana Bayou (Princess and the Frog)”, “Treasure Planet”, “The Black Cauldron”, “Bambi’s forest”, “Jungle Book”, “101 Dalmatians” (guiding Dalmatians while fighting Jasper, Horace and Cruella!!!), "Pocahontas Jamestown and Riverlands" (Native Tribes Sora but I see Disney causing troubles due to political correctness) Vastly extended worlds return with new storylines: “Radiant Garden”, “Twilight Town” (Hayner Olette Pence!! ), “Traverse Town”, “Destiny Islands” (finally playable again, maybe even first world!), “Keyblade Graveyard”, “Kingdom Hearts” (we finally get to see it), “100 acre wood” (always welcome to chill out at and surely cute with new graphics), “Port Royal” (Plot of Pirates 4 and return of merman Sora fighting an underwater battle against evil mermaids and sharks!), “Never Land” (mainlands, goofing with lost boys and fighting Hook is always fun as well as FLYING!!), “Olympus coliseum” (fighting ALL of the Titans!), “Land of Dragons” “Beasts Castle” “Dwarf Woodlands” All of the princesses of light’s worlds actually with awesome quests to save them all from Xehanort’s minions who want to capture them. Sora wants to find a way to get to Xehanort’s secret hideout and he has to fight Disney villains in their respective worlds who act as guardians for Xehanort's plans. More and more new bad guy characters interfere with Sora's paths and he finds out where Xehanort is hiding. As he approaches the Keyblade graveyard he fights Xehanort who has some new tricks and spells and Sora is assisted by several characters as party members. Imagine Sora, Riku and Aqua against Xehanort's ultimate Dragon-like form. Donald and Goofy protect Kairi and the princesses of heart back at Mysterious tower/ twilight town and Kairi especially fights off an army of heartless invading the tower. Xehanort pulls a final trick: he found indeed a way to unlock Kingdom Hearts. Then He threatens to kill Sora, all other characters are locked out and Sora has to fight a final fight before losing to Xehanort. Eventually Sora is almost lost and Yen Sid fights and defeats Xehanort for good. Anyway there ARE some losses, Ven dies as do two of the 4 new characters and Sora almost dies too. Sora recovers and Kairi confesses her Love for him in fear he might die. Masters Aqua, Mickey and Riku and (now-again) Master Yen Sid combine their Curaza spells but Sora faints and only Kairi can save Sora with a Kiss of true love. Everything is fine, everyone returns to their home worlds. Yen Sid trains one of the new Characters to wield the keyblade. Sora, Riku and Kairi return to Destiny Islands and Kairi and Sora are finally together. Riku also brought another girl he met on their journey. Mickey, Pluto, Donald and Goofy return to Disney Castle /Town and are happily welcomed by Minnie and Daisy. Jiminy goes back to Pinocchio's world. Aqua returns to the now-restored Land of Departure and examines Yen Sid's students for the Mark of Mastery. She also built a memorial for her fallen friends Ven and Terra. THE BEST thing of KHIII could be its predictability. Deaths like Ven’s would come surprisingly but the sheer technical and visual superiority of the game combined with the final loss of Xehanort we are yearning for yould be the biggest strength of the game. And a classical Disney-style Ending scene: First we see all those ending scenes I mentioned above, and then during the credits all the Disney endings are played like in previous games. Then the final scene: Riku and his girl are leaning against the Paopu tree on Destiny islands, hugging and Kairi is seen fishing a bottled message out of the water by the docks. (a new raft is seen there too!) Kairi opens the bottle and is surprised the letter is addressed to her. She reads the letter out loud and finds out it’s from Sora. The letter includes some poem that is similar to Kairi’s letter that saved sora in KH2 and ends with something really romantic/tacky like this: We can see the end of the letter: […] Kairi, You are my One Sky, my destiny. I’ll always be with you And I’ll always keep this promise. [yours truly, Sora ] Beneath the text we see Sora drew the Paopu fruit sharing he drew on the stone wall in the secret cave. (and his drawing skills have not improved a bit, haha) Then we see Sora sneaking up behind Kairi and covering her eyes with his hands from behind. Due to her eyes being covered, she stops reading but Sora finishes “I’ll aways be with you…” She smiles, turns around and her smile becomes radiant when she sees it’s indeed Sora. Then the camera turns behind the two of them with a wonderful view of the glittering golden sea behind them. The light gets more intense and for a moment we see Naminé and Roxas smiling at each other and Naminé sheds a tear that continues running down Kairi’s cheek. Sora, having watery eyes himself, wipes the tear off her cheek. Finally we turn to a Disney fairy tale movie-like close up showing their faces getting closer, their eyes closing and finally, accompanied by Mrs. Shimomura’s subtlest yet most majestic tunes, the final Kiss of true love. Fade and then the golden letters “The End” appear before the animated logo of Kingdom Hearts III materializes and the music fades out. The battle report screen shows the usual record data and features a most beautiful artwork including all characters in the series, similar to the one in the KH2 Final Mix. Hope you enjoy this theory and despite I fear KHIII won’t be as great because it’s been hyped and idolized for too long now, and DDD did a major part in downgrading its potential, I’ll get it just for the growing possibility of Sora and Kairi finally getting together!! Feel free to add you own ideas!

Enough ranting from me but please also check out my other thread in which I included my theories of what I want KHIII to be! It's mostly based on the focus on Sora as THE main character (like he was in KH1 and KH2 - it'S a major numbered title after all) and the relationship to/with (!!) Kairi finally getting resolved. How big do you see the chances for Sora and Kairi finally getting a Disney Princess+Prince styled Happy End?

So still I think it's lame if in KHIII Sora, Riku, Kairi, Roxas, Naminé, Xion, Lea, Ven, Aqua, Terra, Mickey, Donald, Goofy are all plain normal somebodies. Most of them wield keyblades. WHERE DID THE DIVERSITY GO?? EVERYONE is "just" a keyblade wielder. Ever heard of diversity in weapons (chacrams anyone? true dualwielding?), fate of characters (there can't be happy ends for all!) or powers. Kingdom Hearts would be so much better if Roxas and NAmine existed only within Sora and Kairi, Terra was lost forever, Xion died for good, Master Eraqus was gone for good and Lea stuck to his fiery weapons. Nomura stated that there is no concept of death in this series so I fear that KHIII will just be a conglomerate of tons of similar characters that are just boring cuz they're gonna be all the same (and some even look exactly the same (Ven Roxas, Sora Vanitas Xion Kairi)). What was once the prototype for 1 unique character = Sora is now applicable for ALL good characters in KHIII: young, brave, strong-hearted, affiliated with light rather than darkness, fightin for his/her firends, Keyblade wielder, positive attitude, never gives up. Sound like Sora in KH 1 until KH2 now it's all of them. Am I the only one who misses sad Aqua, blank minded and angry Roxas, taunting Axel, pure light Kairi and fallen Riku? Same is true for ALL bad guys in KHIII: ONE WORD: XEHANORT and wielding some kind of keyblade-like weapons Doesn't anyone miss the Organization with their INDIVIDUAL members and attitudes and weapons? KH 2's ORG: XIII with wimpy-watery Demix, gambling Luxurd and merely brutal Xaldin beats KHIII's TRUE ORG XIII with XEHANORT^13 BY FAR!!! And besides that, we HAVE FOUGHT ANSEM AND XEMNAS`TOO OFTEN!! DIE ALREADY! I twitch at the fact of fighting Ansem Seeker of Darkness even just ONE MORE TIME!!!

Feel free to correct me or explain any theories HOW exactly this works: * Ven had his heart scattered * Vanitas was created * Sora filled what was missing in Ven's heart * Vanitas got destroyed * Ven Merges his heart with Sora's * Sora merges with Kairi's Heart * Sora releases all his hearts * Sora becomes a heartless * Namine is created * Kairi regains her heart and awakes * Roxas is created * Roxas takes in Ven's heart * Sora regains his heart * Sora is restored as somebody * Xion is created * Xion is destroyed * Xion fades (where does she go?) * Roxas merges with Sora * Namine merges with Kairi * Data Sora is created * Data Namine is created * Data Namine fades * Data Sora is destroyed * Sora's heart falls asleep * Sora's heart fades into darkness * Ven's Heart armors Sora's Heart * Riku awakes Sora's heart * Did Riku also wake up Ven's heart??

I just realiyed the whole problem is that the main theory: 1 somebody = 1 body, 1 heart, 1 soul does not hold at all. Sora in KH1 has all three + ven''s heart then gets Kairi's heart and therefore has 3 hearts, 1 body 1 soul and Kairi 0 hearts 1 body 1 soul. But she doesn't fade into darkness. Then when sora releases both hearts, he also releases Ven's heart. But with Namine and Roxas created we have Sora=1 heart, 1 soul, 1body; and Kairi 1 of each but Roxas and Namine have bodies and minds each but Roxas also has a heart, namely Ven's. Therefore when they merge again and even if Ven is reawakened we have Sora= 1 Heart, 1 Body, 1 Soul/Mind Kairi = 1 Heart, 1 Body, 1 Soul/Mind Ven = 1 Heart, 1 Body, 1 Soul/Mind But What becomes of Roxas' 1 Mind and 1 Body? And Namine's 1 Mind and 1 Body?? And If 1 Heart gives the power to wield 1 Keyblade and Sora gained the ability to wield 2 keyblades in KH2 because he merghed with Roxas and Ven's heart, WHY didn't he have this power in KH1 already, what role do his magical clothes play and WHY can Roxas wield 2 keyblades after merging with Xion?? (Nomura stated something like this in an interview_?) So IF we assume that Roxas gained Xion's Heart when merging with her and then is able to wield 2 blades, we have to assume he didn'T grow a heart because he had Ven's. But This would leave him with NO heart at all as the only true nobody besides Namine. But IF he grew his own heart, he had 3 hearts, so why didn't he use 3 keyblades against Riku and why does he give 1 blade to riku after all if he wants to win the fight?? My new conclusion: Nomura ruined the series even after KH2; Days makes less sense and BbS is OK. Coded is sperfluous and DDD is the worst nonsense I've ever seen cuz it exploits those flaws of Days and BbS. Without DDD one could overlook or ignore the flaws but DDD makes the mistake of rewriting everything and screwing everything up! And due to DDD Kingdom Hearts (as a series) only makes sense if you Play KH1, CoM, KH2 and BbS in this order and then stop. Days as standalone non-canon title is OK as is Coded. But DDD Is bad in every way.

Yes, exactly! But you don'T get what I mean: Truth 1: Roxas has Ven's heart, Xion does not just like all other nobodies. Hence, Sora has 2 now. But Nomura introduced a new law in DDD which says each nobody has a heart because a Nobody's heart replaces the heart it lost by growing a new one. (look on youtube- sora is upset becasue Xemnas lied to his "friends" by telling them they didn't have a heart, but they had hearts) But this NEW truth contradicts the old one which made sense. The new one would be fine ONLY IF the old one had never existed! I am upset cuz Nomura changes his mind and wants nobody's to grow their own hearts but this contradicts his idea he had a few years ago. This guy is going crazy with all his new ideas and he constantly shits on his old ideas. YES: Roxas has Ven's heart, Xion and Axel do not. Lea has a heart but not Axel, therefore only Roxas could cry! BUT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJR6tnN6g9A&index=152&list=PLhcSrKyqhfh65KdZulRZNEEaADPxlkVy3 Here Xemnas tells Sora that Nobodies grew their own hearts!! And therefore we can choose 1) Nomura theory 1 was a lie and roxas does not have ven's heart but grew his own like axel and xion BUT: Roxas is a special nobody that looks different than sora hence this cannot be true (and yet DDD insists on this being true) 2) Nomura theory 2 is a lie and Xemnas is lying to sora about nobodies growing their own hearts BUT: WHY ON EARTH include this crap if it ain'T true??? 3) BOTH are true which gives us the shitty solution of Sora regained his own heart, Roxas has Ven's heart and therefore looks like him, he grew his own heart and therefore has 2 hearts at once, Xion grew her own and when merging with sora and roxas this gives Sora 4 Hearts!!! PREDICTING Nomura wants to bring back Xion and Roxas as their own persons in KHIII this is now possible by releasing the 3 superfluous hearts inside sora to revive Ven, Xion and Roxas. HOWEVER: Nomura didn't think this through because íf Axel grew his own heart this leaves LEa stuck with 2 hearts and noone to give it to. So either Xemnas lied or Nomura got caught up in his own web of ever-changing laws of the heart. If you ask me he didn't remember what he said about Roxas in the past and he was just eager to split Roxas and Xion and Ven as own persons and this solution came in handy. BUT he didn'T think about 2-hearted LEA!!! IN SUM: DDD IS A CRAPPY GAME THAT IS THE RUSHED GAME IT FEELS LIKE! The story does not make any sense and its contributions to the whole saga are either lies that want to destract sora or they destroy the whole credibility of the whole series.

Yes, exactly. But according to DDD, All Nobodys grew their own hearts in addition, so Roxas has 2 hearts, after absorbing Xion 3 and when merging with sora 4. This is what I hate about Nomura: Roxas Theory changed with each game: KHII: Roxas does not have a heart. Days: Roxas has a heart. BbS: Roxas has Ven's heart (and hence looks like him) up to this point everything even makes sense. but then: DDD: Roxas has his own heart. WAT??? This states that KHII, Days AND BbS were Bullshit. And those games were way better than DDD, so why should DDD have the power to overthrow the storylines of ALL previeous games and state everything we know and all nlaws of nature from the previous games are wrong. C'mon, Nomura, if you change your mind ever so often that's OK. But you can't change what's already been proven. If you want to overhaul the whole KH series you better start by creating a new KH1 and KH2 that fit your new theories but don't expect me to play those shitty games then.

Thats the point: sora had ventus' heart and when he returned from being a heartless he regained his own heart. THIS is the reason why roxas didn't get distroyed (Data DiZ in DDD did contradict this) and Therefore Roxas HAD a heart, Ven's. And he did also look like Ven because of his heart. Therefore Roxas HAD a heart, all the others didn't.DDD contradicts ALL the facts we ever knew were true and therefore Roxas should have 3 hearts (His newly grown, Xion's and Ven's which makes Sora have 4!!!!!) just plain stupidity!IF Sora has 4 hearts can he wield 4 Keyblades at once??And how can Roxas wield only 2 if he has 3?So this fact exploits Nomura's inconsistency from Days who can wield how many keyblades and why and makes it even worse.And the worst thing is that in DDD Nomura makes every little breath of any character seem important for the destinies of tons of other characters. Xehanort isn't almighty and destiny isn't so inconsistent

To be honest, your quote just made me forget KHIII completely. By now, I'm all like "enjoy 1.5, look forward to KH2.5 and finsih it off with KH2's perfect happy end" I don't want to wait decades for XV to finsih and KHIII to come and I don't want to be disappointed anymore. Trashing DDD after the second replay was the right decision, cuz it belongs there. So I'll go with it indeed, play 1.5 and 2.5 all over and forget about all that comes after it. Yeah, the Nomura who COULD release FFXV in 10 years right? I wouldn't wonder if they never even finfished either of those game. Besides that, I hated leveling up sora as well as riku, hard bosses that constantly attacked I could't even move, flowmotion was unrealistic and spoiled the game, dreameaters were annoying pokemon like creatures that were a pest to llevel up too and most of all I HATED I had to keep those dreameaters to gain abilities Yeah, so he can make KH even worse. As he like XV so much maybe he can pull it as an intro to FF XVI where the protagonist wakes up from a dream that reveals KH is just a fairy tale in the FF world IF Keyhole NR 1 is on destiny islands, then unlocking it AFTER KH2 makes sure the islands are restored AFTER KH1! And according to Xehanort, the destined past cannot be changed! So if Destiny islands were sleeping after KH1, Sora couldn't depart from THERE to Yen who sends him back IN TIME to restore the isalnds before they are even swallowed by darkness, huh? And if the islands are restore, why even go back to them and risk the past (which couldn't bechanged anyway) being chnaged. And if Yen sid is so powerful to chnage present, past, future and laws of time and space at once, why doesn't he just go kcik Xehanort's ass himself (cuz according to thsi Xehanort's restrictions do not apply to him which makes him 1000times more powerful than the already almighty god xehanort) DDD does NOT make ANY sense from the FIRST to the LAST second and this is the sign someone didn't do a good job. This plotline does not make sense - even to Nomura himself. Accept it, even Nomura makes mistakes. Only, most companies fire people after making too many and replace them by people who do a better job. That's business economics.

Thinking logically, KHIII WILL be bad if those "lost" characters come back. Xion won't be the afflicted anymore. Roxas won't be the sad sincere kid anymore. Ventus AND Roxas in the same picture doesn't go well. Too many Xehanorts neither. Too confusing, Completely unacceptable for new fans to the series. Too many characters whose purposes and characters will be lost and all will be those blank, "saved" characters. After all, don't you think 10+ main characters in one game is too much!? Besides, even though they say it will, KHIII won't be that big (XV's aftermath and money and time shortages will see to that), and too many characters cannot get enough development on screen each. Lastly, they could only handle this by adding DDD-like multi character gaming. And this WON'T Work. KHIII should be like KH1 and 2. A CHRONOLOGICAL (15y.o.) SORA IS THE MAIN CHARACTER. Multis would crush game system, leveling up system and finally the story!

And even when KHIII comes in 2057, Sora might even be Xehanort's wive who gave birth to the worlds' populations of Xehanorts cuz #NJomura decided that EVERYONE is Xehanort (and I even seee DIsney allow this shit) - While noone remembers who Sora, Kairi, Riku, Aqua, Ventus, Terra, Roxas, Xion and Namine were.

Exaclty that's the problem. It was made just to make peolpe want KHIII. and to sell another handheld gamer to queeze profit from. Nomura sadly decided to f* with the players this time and include some serious series-laws changes too to make it seem more legit. But DDD has no right to be among the KH number. A well-polished 1.5 and 2.5 in time could have turned the tides way better than rushing those out. And KHIII was only announced to keep fans interested beyond the ReMIXes. and who knows what nomura comes up with in 2015 (2013 was 1.5, 2014 is 2.5 but I'm sure we won't get even FFXV by 2016)... Unless they smartly delay 2.5 until 2015, halt KHIII officially, release XV in 2016 and resume with a `DDD remake on PS3/4 by 2017 and rerelease 1.5 and 2.5 including DDD as "2.75" by 2018 and finally release KHIII in 3057. That's sarcasm, FYI...

How??? More plotholes to cover the plotholes that messed up an entire series? There is no way they can restore the series' universe to anything that makes sense. And besides, the team that did KH and KHII is stilled blocked by XV, hence the "bad/messy" DDD team does KHIII :( And therefore FFXV gets a lot of hate from KH fans. See, their decisions were bad no matter what. There is no way they can fix this sh*t without admitting "We srewed it" and release a DDD Final mix that has a 99% rewritten plot and 150% improved technical feats.

I am a defender of freedoms of press and opinion but I do hope DDD gets whatr it deserves: HATE for winding up so many fans!

TO sum it up: DDD just has TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many plot holes, rewritings of what has been fact in prior games, chnages of natural laws of the series, and CONTRADICTIONS towards the series in totasl and even itself. I'm biased, I admit, but even objectively, I say DDD was Simply BAD. It didn't have this "Ah, I'm playing a (new or old) KH game! And I didn't even cover the technical difficulties this game had... JUST BAD and rushed- sad they decided to release some crap to keep fans busy. (They better had fully-remade coded and days for their HD remixes) Yeah, so true. But the problem is that DDD wasn't just poor. It was utmost horrible!Overthrowing 1 storyline is OK but taking one awful game that should be the new truth of a series and everything else was wrong is unacceptable. The ONLY way to fix KHIII would be to pretend DDD was a bad dream or so - and even such an utterance in KHIII would weake KHIII's appearance. I so wish they'd gone from coded straight to KHIII. No DDD, no FFXV, just KHIII!!! I hope Square got some more anti-Xehanortification replies in their #future of KHIII poll a month back. The Kingdom Hearts Series is so great cuz the tangles web of different people's stories and connections grew over 10 years and even more considering the development times of the individual titles. How can on game that was rushed in a few months wih the purpose to release a game in a gap year and to prevent fans from giving up on or forgetting the series get the POWER TO OVERRIDE these many years of storytelling truths???? Are you frickin kidding me? If I were among the creative minds behind KHII I'd ask Nomura if he fell on his head or if this was a joke...

I’ve been revisiting the several plot-difficulties of Dream Drop Distance lately and I come to the ONLY possible conclusion that makes sense and explains everything about this game: IT JUST DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL!!! Besides being the worst game in the series due to its being rushed extremely, this game’s plot and other inconsistencies that became major flaws due to the rewritings done by this horrible game. Here I’m going to explain why Nomura’s only chance to save Kingdom Hearts III is to pretend DDD never happened while showing all major flaws this game brought to the series and even its own plot in chronological sequence: Mysterious Tower: Yen Sid summons Riku and Sora to take the Mark of Mastery. So far so good but the contradicting starts right here: according to what we have seen in the “Reconnect KH” endings in Coded and BbS, Mickey’s letter was addressed to Sora exclusively, Riku asks whether Sora has made a decision yet, Sora says yes because his tormented connected friends really need him and Kairi asks him to return soon. FLAW-TIME: How can ONE letter tell Sora about the Data-scape, torments of the hearts connected Sora doesn’t even remember AND invite Sora as well as Riku to the Exam?? And why on earth don’t they take Kairi with them?? Destiny Islands: Exam begins: Of course, the boys accept the exam and Yen sends them BACK IN TIME to enter the realm of sleep. WHY does he have those powers while Xehanort needs so many other loopholes. Couldn’t Xehanort just send his companions back in time just like Yen Sid did?? Come On, Nomura MAJOR FLAW NR 1!!! Anyway. The boys are back in time and 14/15 years old again. (WHY doesn’t Sora’s voice resemble his voice back at that time??) Next thing is they MEET Ursula! How come Ursula is in the picture?? And WHY does she want revenge?? If they really were back in time AND IF Ursula were swimming in those seas HOW could she have the Trident and powers she would steal through Ariel way later after D.Islands fell to darkness?? And How can she want revenge for Sora defeating her BEFORE he even met her??? OK, try to ignore it all. BUT why Is there a Keyhole in the Islands?? Destiny Islands has not fallen to darkness yet and was clearly restored at the end of KH1. WHY, Nomura, why a keyhole for SLEEPING worlds trapped in sleep?? So, trying to make sense of that mess still we do not count this keyhole as one of the 7 but rather as Entrance gate to that sleeping realm. Traverse Town: Ignoring the rebuilding the town has undergone and ignoring the fact that the Heroes’ outfits changed, WHY are the boys still 14/15? According to official explanations they traveled back to the present…and should at least have their 15/16 bodies… Another theory is that the person entering dreams is in the time the dream is taken from. BUT this gives way to MAJOR FLAW 2: time travel isn’t even needed, we can just go to any sleeping worlds and that’s it. No complicated rules, just hopping through time, space and beyond all logic. Accepting the fact that dreams are separate and not connected, Sora and Riku are trapped in 2 sides of the same world. Their encounters with the local residents here DO make sense. Some even skip over from one half to the other and the storyline actually works for a while. UNTIL: 2 Keyholws show up in this town. MAJOR FLAW NR 3: why does Traverse have 2 keyholes?? (I count both visits and not the ½ ones Sora and Riku seal/open each). But this just helps us get to the Number of 7, nothing else… Cite/Grid: These worlds do make sense IF we see the dreaminess as a fact. Sora and Riku visit the same word but can only access separate dreams of the same world. The only thing the boys “share” are the locations and the nightmares fought. Riku beats that flying thing and he falls into the fire from the skies. Sora does not see the fire cuz it’s only a dream the world remembers. But he get to battle the fallen nightmare. Makes sense -kinda. STRICTLY SPEAKING, talking to people who don’t remember anything that just happened and people appearing in two people’s dreams or dream-halves IS and STAYS an awkward concept. PRANKSTER: this world illustrates the separation/distance concepts as jiminy does not remember Sora, and hence is a dream-illusion. The awkwardness aside, TIME-JUMPING is still going on as Sora seems to have traveled to the world just before it fell to darkness… Sealing two ½ keyholes works differently here as Sora and Riku seal different world’s keyholes Paradise and Monstro. This is another way to get to the total of 7 if Traverse only counts as 1. BUT MAJOR FLAW 4: How do those keyholes actually work? Do Sora and Riku really need to lock 1 each in their half of the dream to get 1 complete? CONSITENCY EVEN WITHIN 1 GAME WOULD BE NICE!! Musketeers/Fantasia: The Mickey-ness of these world aside, MAJOR FLAW NR 5 is obvious in Musketeer: PARALLEL Time lines, really? How can Mickey and Co. be French Monarchs and Musketeers trapped in their world’s dreams WHILE being awake and in the real world and rulers of Disney castle?? It only makes sense if they left this world and the world is empty for real but the world should remember that, right?? Fantasia did a better job by embedding the past of mickey as apprentice in the mysterious tower setting. NEVERWORLD: If you still feel like you can understand the plot up to this point, you’re losing it at this point. MAJOR FLAW INFINITENESS: HOWs and WHYs are too numerous to be listed actually. Why did Sora end up at this place that has been destroyed. Why does this world have so many different looks and places? How come Sora is changing Forms and skipping from 14 to 15 year old?? NOMURA stated they change from the real world over and back at this place but WTF??? Form changes?? XEMNAS does not make any sense either. While explaining Nobodies DO have heart this would make Roxas having 3 Hearts!! (His own grown heart, Ventus’ [why he looks like him] and later Xion’s and therefore Sora also has 4 Hearts now. Kairi has two. Makes sense – no? and due to this BbS, Days and KH2 don’t make sense anymore. And then our favorite: TIME TRAVEL?? Xehanort’s RULES on time traveling. Yen Sid was able to do that withoutrules just 15 hours ago. I won’t even mention the fact that Nomura ruined ALL other games by f*ing up these rules and the mere inclusion of a NEW ORG XIII!!! OUTCOME: OK, So Sora was sleeping, Riku dove into his dreams acting as a dreameater while locking “fake” keyholes cuz he was trapped in soras dreams within dreams – destroying the very nightmares sora was having and those Nightmares pulled Sora into the darkness. IT seems the Boys traveld back in time at the beginning then disappeared from the real world, became young but suddenly they are back at the tower only sleeping and dreaming their adventures? The threat of Xehanort is only legit if they really “dive” into the sleeping worlds, as in being physically gone from the real world – on the CONTRARY RIKU is just sleeping ON THE FLOOR IN THE TOWER while diving into Sora’s sleeping heart at the end. So IF Xehanort was so dangerous, why didn’t Yen sid just wake the boys if their bodies weren’t really gone? Sora returns to Traverse which should be returned and YET he is sleeping upon arrival, WHY???? AND WHY ARE THOSE CREEPY SPIRITS STILL AROUND?? AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TWEWY GANG??? In conclusion, I’m sure many other will agree, Nomura manages to rewrite and mess up the entire series with one AWFUL game. The awesome KH series we once new, the KH we loved cuz it was SORA’s story, is now gone. Goodbye, KH1 with your heartbreaking Sora seeks Kairi nostalgia, CoM with your mysterious introduction of an Organization and a certain Nobody couple, KHII – the best game ever- with all your logical solutions and reunions and a sweet sora+kairi-hug, Days which was good precisely because it didn’t have a happy ending (Xion worked BECAUSE she died never to return to the series), BbS which felt mysterious and had lovely cameos and gave KH so much more depth [and the Roxas-Ventus connection even made sense back when Ventus’ heart transferred over to Roxas] and Coded with the innocent plot (quite good to have a simple linear plot without much complications). The Series would have worked out great if they had just released HD1.5 and HD2.5 and KHIII. But now I don’t see much hope after Nomura turned this beloved series into XEHANORT’s saga where Xehanort is an omniscient and omnipresent god-like freak. As much as I’m looking forward to 2.5 Remix, I fear Nomura lost his great sense of direction when starting with Final Fantasy XV. I really feel Nomura is all like F* you KH Fans my new pet project is XV and you’ll just get a messed up DDD and KHIII to shut you up. And seeing they have been unable to release XV in about 10 years, I don’t see any hope for KHII ever being released, cuz one more financial hardship and they’ll cut it anyway. And judging from the lack of news lately we won’t see 2.5 anytime soon either… So I dare say, IMAO, Mr Nomura, PLEASE rethink your decisions, finish FFXV already (if ever), and PUT AT LEAST A TINY BIT OF THINKING EFFORT into the future of KH!! Let’s pretend DDD never happened, trash that junk of a plot and start over with 2.5 and KHIII. In all other cases the series will end with KH1.5 and KH2.5 and I’ll have to say: “GOODBYE Kingdom Hearts, (The waiting’s always bothered me anyway)” Sorry for the rant but I'm just really disappointed by what companies that used to be really good some years ago did recently. Seems like Nomura with Square and lasseter with disney have never heard of "if it ain't broken DONT fix it!" As a fan I feel really betrayed. If they decide to go a different path in the future, that's OK. BUT F*ING LEAVE THE MEMORIES I HAVE ALONE. [Recent Disney movie restaurations, messing with new restauration and adding of new Disney logo to old movies... Lasseter-fication of Disney (=now Pixar)] [Recent Xehanortification and Finalfantasyfication of KH ...Nomurafication of square] If it's just to squeeze profit, let it be. I'd rather see a cancelled KH series without glorified KHIII than a messsed up Xehanort can do it all and yet we'll defeat him by resurrecting ALL characters ever in this series. C'mon just let it go! Who else thinks that a new lead in this series would be the best solution? I feel KH could use alittle more western philosophy and direction... NEW DIRECTOR! I'm writing all this provocative stuff cuz I'm really CONCERNED ABOUT SORA!! AND KAIRI! GIVE THEM THEIR HOLLYWOOD HAPPY END ALREADY!