Kirux

Let me think. No.

He is conniving, methodical, cold, and calculated about his killing of his own family. He uses his natural charisma and intelligence to win people over and get the to do as he sees fit. He ordered the attack on a refugee camp, killing many innocent civilians. He is a villain plain and simple. He does amazingly treacherous and bad things for his own personal satisfaction of 'breaking free of the gods.' He is not a good man. He is a villain. His mind set is truly villainous and if he wore funny clothes, was a psychopath instead of a sociopath, and cackled he could be Kefka. There are no redeeming qualities of Vayne Solidor his actions are not noble. The goal he is striving for in NO way justifies the means he used, and I love defeating him. That is my opinion. Even though he is an evil bastard, I *love* that about him. He is a true villain that inspires me to beat the game just to put an end to him and for that purpose he is brilliant. I will not change my mind no matter how you try to present it to me.

I may or may not join.

I never said he was a dick for being a dick's sake. He's a dick for killing everyone.

tigers

Evil Geniuses in da house.

Really? That's the only part of my post you're commenting on? ;P He kills his own father and brothers in order to ascend to power. He has judges killed off who are against him only to protect Larsa. Hell, he'd have kill off Larsa if he had the chance. 'Good motivations' are not an excuse for doing bad things, especially since 'good motivations' are subject to opinion.

I said nothing. I merely reposted a funny pick from the interwebs.

wat?

I AM TERRIFIED.

Yes, that is more of an expression of a personal opinion and that would be more acceptable.

This isn't random so I would have to assume it was serious. >:[

Snow, FFVII is one of the most popular title in the entire franchise. If anything it is overrted by many due to nostalgia and the fact it was the first to have 3D modeling.

UPDATE A new article detailing the arrest and hearing of the suspect was posted here http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/25/14696928-prosecutors-say-colorado-teen-has-confessed-to-jessica-ridgeway-murder?lite In the article, when describing what others have said about the teen, the article now reads: Seemingly the fact he is into Anime and Japanese culture is no longer relevant, but now once again the media is casting shadows on the Goth community. Which gets A LOT of crap when things like these happen. Sigh, guess the media will never be truly unbiased.

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XII get's so much slack for being one of the later games in the series. It falls into that "everything after ( x ) title is crap" people whine about. To me, XII was the first truly good FF since VI. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE VIII and IX, but they were both kind of mediocre story wise and focused heavily on a love story. Both villains were also 'evil' but in a way that still made you kind of like them because you can almost understand WHY they were that way. Vayne Solidor is just a dick. He's a sadist evil bastard and I feel righteous every time I kill him. He's the first viliain since Kefka were I finished the game solely so I could destroy him. But you know what? I love Kefka and Vayne for that reason; they truly fulfill their roles AS the majour bad guy. XII also had a complex cast of characters that all had so many layers to them; and each were explored in the game. There was no: This character is deep because of the way they stare away from the camera and be gloomy all the time. Each and every one of them had background and interesting stories that promoted their character types. Even Vaan has grown on me. He's finally a 17 yr old that ACTS like a 17 yr old: Somewhat dreamy and spacey, just wanting to do what they want and not being told what to do and also a bit naive when it comes to the rest of the world. People seem to hate on him for these traits, but I find it makes him a wonderful character. The fact that he has the capacity to be angry and blame Basch, but also is able to confront the situation and learn to hold his feelings aside to get through the situation (and eventually hear Basch out and actually understand who Basch is as a person and forgive him) is something I find they tried to get Hope to do, but Hope failed miserably at it. I could write a thesis paper on everything about XII I like, but I don't think anyone has the time. TL,DR; XII is complex and a return to actually villainous villains. Vaan acts his age. Hope's anger at Snow is just a badly done version of Vaan and Basch.