Master Xehanort1690

Mario pretty much is Nintendo, so it's no surprise it won.

We all know Riku was able to remeber Terra near the end of DDD, so I think it's pretty obvious he'll be the one to save him. Now Terra chose Riku as his successor and Riku has been through a lot of ups and downs through his journey, but he's turned into an excellent person now and a very good hero. He's very similar to Terra in that they both turned to and use darkness, but Riku ultimately learned from it and triumphed and now he's a master. Do you think Terra will learn from Riku and ultimately be proud of choosing him to be his successor when Riku eventually saves him?

The no name keyblade looks so sick! Can't wait for the translations. Thanks!

Well considering YX was just chillin in his chair after the fight makes me think he didn't even take that fight seriously. Xemnas on the other hand was on his knees after losing to Sora. There's also the fact that YX was much much harder as a secret boss(BBS) and regular boss(DDD from watching streams he just seems harder) than Xemnas was. I never really had trouble with Xemnas in any of his forms. Remember I'm talking about regular Xemnas, not KH Xemnas. Still I wasn't using that to gauge who's stronger, only saying that Xemnas lost to Sora alone, but then Sora needed Riku to take him on as KH Xemans, which is why I figured Nomura was talking about KH Xemnas when saying he was the strongest being in the KH universe.

I know. I was simply making an educated guess since Xemnas lost to Sora before absorbing KH, but then needed Sora and Riku to take him down with KH absorbed.

Which Xehanort is the strongest? MX Terranort/AX Ansem SoD Xemnas YMX Braignort Isanort I know Nomura said Xemnas was the strongest being in the KH universe, but that was back during KH2 and it was most likely Xemnas with KH absorbed, so what do you guys think? I also counted Braig and Isa because technically they are part Xehanort now.

I've been wondering this because it's seems weird how YX has a keyblade when he hadn't even left the islands yet when Ansem SoD came to him and gave him time traveling powers to time travel to the future. Of course it could've been like Riku and Terra where Terra visited the islands and performed the keyblade ceremony on him as a kid. Anybody know?

If you put it like that then no lol.

http://imgur.com/a/Keckv#ym0Vd Enjoy!

Yea I edited it lol. A simple typo haha.

Did anybody else notice that during the end of DDD when the 13 darknesses are vanishing it shows Lea and Isa looking at each other and then Riku and YMX looking at each other. Do you guys think this symbolizes how YMX will become the new Ansem for Riku? Not necessarily in trying to manipulate Riku to succumb to darkness, but the rivalry between the two. They're both a lot alike in being that they both saw the island as a prison and sought to escape, but in doing so succumbed to the darkness. Except one embraces it while the other doesn't. Do you guys think Nomura is setting it up for them to have a big clash in KH3? That would be pretty sick if you ask me.

I'd love to see Toy Story in KH since Nomura said he wants Pixar. The Incredibles as well. Anyway it seems that the story for BBSV2 does exist, but it seems there's no plans for a game about it. To be honest I'm good with that because I'd much rather KH3 be the next KH game that comes out. The next KH title announcement coming soon? Since there's no plans for BBSV2 or KH3D FM then that means KH3!!!!!!!!!!

Pretty much this.

Wait until now to manipulate Sora and Riku? He said his first target was Riku, so why not go after him when he was still susceptible to darkness like during KH1 and CoM? Ansem SoD went back to give YMX time traveling abilites before KH1 took place considering Ansem had the brown robes when talking to YMX, so I don't get why he'd wait so long? He also could've helped Xemnas as well. Of course it could be that Nomura just didn't have the plot planned that far ahead of time, but it does make you wonder.

Good because I was pretty tired of arguing with you anyway. You're the one who started this debate, not me. The basis for your argument is pretty pathetic anyway considering all you can say is Nomura didn't say it himself so it's not true. I just laugh now because it simply shows how ignorant you are.

There's only 8 people capable of being the 7 lights and those are Sora, Mickey, Riku, Terra, Aqua, Ven, Lea, and Kairi considering they're all keyblade wielders and please don't sit here and say they're not keyblade wielders. That would simply be ignorance and a lack of common sense. Mickey named 6 of them and those were Sora, Riku, himself, Terra, Aqua, and Ven, which leaves 2 left, Terra very well could be one, but they'd have to save him first just like they have to save Aqua and Ven. The fact is the 7 lights are 7 of those keyblade wielders I named above. That much should be common sense. It's pretty obvious 5 of them are Riku, Sora, Mickey, Aqua, and Ven. Terra was implied to be one as well when MX said I have the last 2 lights on my side(Sora at the time and Terra). Isa isn't a keyblade wielder and Lea hadn't learned to summon one yet. You seem to act like Terra can't be one just because he's on MX's side. Well guess what he can be saved before the final battle begins just like Aqua and Ven most likely will be. Lea could very well be one even if they get Terra back before the final battle because one more light would still be needed. It'll be either Lea and Kair(if Terra isn't saved before the final battle), just Lea(if Terra is saved), or just Kairi(i have no idea why they'd choose Kairi over Lea, but this is another possibility considering she can also wield a keyblade and Yen Sid called for her). Your argument is based entirely on conjecture while I at least have sufficient evidence to back up my claims. All you can say to try and prove me wrong is MX and Mickey were lying or are so ignorant they wouldn't know. Do you have any idea how terrible of a counter this is? Now I cannot be bothered to waste anymore of my time with you, so if you still don't get it then I really don't care anymore.

And again I have proof while you have none. Those two "proofs" come from Nomura's story that he created himself, so technically it's him speaking through the characters. The only keyblade wielders(good side) that are actually alive within the story are Sora, Riku, Mickey, Terra, Aqua, Ven, Lea, Kairi, and Yen Sid(retired though). Roxas and Eraqus are within Sora and Terra, which is why I didn't include them.The 7 lights are all keyblade wielders, which means Lea could still be a light with Terra being one as well and that would equate to 7. Mickey and MX said 6 of them were Sora, Riku, Mickey, Terra, Aqua, and Ven with one still missing. How many keyblade wielders does that leave? Only 2 and those are Lea and Kairi. That's pretty much more proof that points to the 6 lights that Mickey mentioned being correct.

What proof do you have that Mickey, Sora, Riku, Terra, Aqua, and Ven aren't 6 of the 7 lights? Zero. What evidence do I have that they are? Both MX and Mickey confirmed them to be. I have proof while you have none. It should be clear which takes precedent over the other.

/facepalm This has to be one of the worse analogies I've ever seen. My basis of argument is both Mickey and MX confirmed the 7 lights. You're basis of argument is Nomura didn't say it himself so it isn't true. /facepalm again What evidence do you have that they aren't the 7 lights? That's right zero. What evidence do I have? Both Mickey and MX said they were. I'm done.

*Sigh* you seriously don't get it. MX also states Terra is one of the 7 lights when he says 2 of the lights are on my side(Terra and Sora at the time). That's 2 people who confirm that Terra is one of the 7 lights. Technically Nomura is speaking through the characters since the plot is coming from his head. What is your basis for them not being the 7 lights? Mickey is unreliable. Flawed logic at its finest right there. So what if Yen Sid says they're the 7 lights to we won't believe him? If everyone in the freaking game says they're the 7 lights we won't believe them? Lol I really can't take you seriously either.

*Sigh* I NEVER said he couldn't be a light. I simply said from what we know right now he isn't. The 6 lights that have been said are Sora, Riku, Mickey, Terra, Aqua, and Ven. That leaves one spot open and it could be either Lea or Kairi considering they both can wield keyblades. I said this in my first post in this thread. For the love of god learn to read. Ansem was controlling Riku and it was him speaking through Riku's body hence why he said he was Ansem. Both Mickey and Xehanort said Terra was one of the 7 lights. Nomura DOESN'T have to say it himself for it to be true. By that logic a ton of things in KH aren't true because Nomura hasn't said it himself. That's completely flawed logic. Nomura created the game, characters, and story, so technically it's him speaking through the characters since the plot came from his head.

Your basis of argument is Nomura didn't say it so it's not true. Seriously? So I guess since Nomura didn't say a lot of things in KH means they aren't true right? Like Riku passed the MoM and Sora failed. Yen Sid said it, but Nomura didn't so according to your logic it's not true. Lol that's funny. Nomura doesn't have to say it himself for it to be true. I actually have evidence supporting my argument unlike you who's only basis is Nomura didn't say it. Lol I can't take you seriously anymore. There's so much wrong with this post. Nomura has already stated that Sora can wield a keyblade due to the strength of his heart and connection to his friends. Ven is the reason he can duel wield, not the reason he can wield a keyblade.

It seems you're in denial my friend.