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You and about 60% of the other people myself included. Everyone knew that was the ending in someway just by researching his hair. ... I wish I was joking...

*spoiler* it was confirmed that vantias looks exactly like sora with black hair and gold eyes.*SPOILER* http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/kingdomhearts/images/c/c9/Vanitas_eye.jpg His full face isnt revealed in that Nothing is confirmed until you've seen it yourself. Don't take anything you hear/ready with 100% confirmation ever. Unless you see it yourself, you should always be skeptical. I know that 2 out of 3 Justin.TV Broadcasters played a little of Ven's story, but not all of it. The only people who really know, are the people that live in Japan that bought it. I.E. Those Broadcasters. Don't believe everything you read, even if a lot of people agree to it. Though I don't doubt it looks like Sora with Black hair, I can say that Terra already saw riku, and Sora. Which "might" mean it might look like Ventus/Roxas with black hair.

I personally think It's 2 options. Riku in the future (highly unlikely) Or Xehanort's Heartless. Maybe he see's Xehanorts Heartless in Riku looking into the future knowing Riku's going to be possessed by him. If not any of this, maybe sora and Riku wasn't even born in Terra's timeline yet. He could have went completely to Destiny Islands about a year later. Who knows, maybe you find out that Vanitas is a cross between Riku, and Sora. I'll with-hold judgement until I see Vanitas's idenity.

I honestly don't have a clue about that. But Axel's Checkrams actually was shown in BBS? Ven's story I believe. He was talking to ven wielding hacksaacks like Checkrams, and spun them around. So, in his mind, that's probably what his Weapon would be. I think those Blades Wemnas had were "fill" ins. Like, just a nothing'ness weapon of some sort.

[align=left][/align] Well first off, he isn't dead. secondly, I meant why Xehanort, or Xemnas can't wield a Keyblade. Master Xehanort and Terra were Keyblade masters. When Xehanort took over his body, he still had his keyblade in his hand. As did Terra's shell. If Roxas can wield a keyblade, Xemnas should have been able to as well. Thus my (lost) memory theory on Xemnas's Terra's part.

Where did you hear that from? It's common sense. Did you play the games? When Master Xehanort took over Terra in birth by sleep, only Terra's soul and memories were left. As the are now Xehanorts memories, that's why Xemnas doesn't remember anything. Memories were split.

*sigh* What happened is that all through-out BBS, Xehanort kept telling Terra to give into the Darkness. He did this for the same purpose he did to Riku in KH1, to unlock all that Darkness, to take over, or to fuse. In the end of BBS, Terra unlocked all his Darkness, and Master Xehanort took advantage, and fused with Terra's Body, and took his memories. Terra's shell, or the "Lingering Soul" is just that. Terra's left-overs inside a shell. Master Xehanort took over his body to live on. It was Terra that allowed this as, he was the one that gave into the darkness. This is the same shell you fight in KH2 FM+. That bonus boss is this Shell of Terra's. However, when Master Xehanort took over Ansem, and made himself a Heartless, and Nobody, the 2 memories were swaped in places. Heartless - Xehanort. (Protagonist of KH1, overlord of the heartless.) ; These memories were of Xehanort. Thus, trying to reopen Kingdom Hearts, trying to take over riku another dark soul. Etc, the list goes on. Nobody - Terra (Protagonist of KH2, overlord of nobodies) ; These memories were of Terra. Thus trying to find his heart, looking for lost memories, trying to find his 'friends'. Nobodies weapons come from memories. since Xemnas can't remember anything, this is probably why he didn't have a keyblade in the first place. Either that, or he can't willing wield one right now.

*sigh* What happened is that all through-out BBS, Xehanort kept telling Terra to give into the Darkness. He did this for the same purpose he did to Riku in KH1, to unlock all that Darkness, to take over, or to fuse. In the end of BBS, Terra unlocked all his Darkness, and Master Xehanort took advantage, and fused with Terra's Body, and took his memories. Terra's shell, or the "Lingering Soul" is just that. Terra's left-overs inside a shell. Master Xehanort took over his body to live on. It was Terra that allowed this as, he was the one that gave into the darkness. This is the same shell you fight in KH2 FM+. That bonus boss is this Shell of Terra's. However, when Master Xehanort took over Ansem, and made himself a Heartless, and Nobody, the 2 memories were swaped in places. Heartess - Xehanort. (Protagonist of KH1, overlord of the heartless.) ; These memories were of Xehanort. Thus, trying to reopen Kingdom Hearts, trying to take over riku another dark soul. Etc, the list goes on. Nobody - Terra (Protagonist of KH2, overlord of nobodies) ; These memories were of Terra. Thus trying to find his heart, looking for lost memories, trying to find his 'friends'. Nobodies weapons come from memories. since Xemnas can't remember anything, this is probably why he didn't have a keyblade in the first place. Either that, or he can't willing wield one right now.

------------------------------ Spoilers ------------------------------- My theory on Terra was indeed correct, now let's see if mine on Ventus/Vanitas checks out.

Bro, I think you should do it in that order also. Not only because It's "your" choice, but because It's actually the most important. I will be playing as Ven first when I get it also, because like you said, he is linked to Sora, and Riku in someway. Aqua is seen as less important then the 3. Why? This woman is part of the Gathering, she helps fight along side Terra, and Ventus in the middle of a war. Then she just vanishes?! No sir, her story might lead a few eyes to be opened up. Terra's story is in a war now between first, and second place in importantcy. I'm 99.9% sure I already now how his story ends though. I think all of us do. Play the characters in the order you choose man, again, I wont miss a freaking minute of it! by the way, KenjiShiranui ;AIM; sup bro, lol

Didn't Ansem and company create the Emblem heartless? I thought the Pureblood heartless already exsisted, and the apprentices used the Purebloods as a base for the Emblems... "^^ if you think about it, it could be very possible that Vanitas could be Ventus's Heartless. He already has the uniform, the hair, the same eyes, (much but gold) why couldn't the heartless not look like sora? Also, everyone has now been saying theirs an infant, does this sound pretty interesting considering reading my theory on Vanitas being brought back to childhood? I'm very eager to see what BBS holds in a few days. Only time will tell, god bless.

That's exactly right! What if Vanitas was the original heartless that started them? If you think about it, it would make sense. I'm 110% convinced on my theory that Vanitas is the first Heartless to ever exist. Then by opening Kingdom Hearts, the Heartless are created for KH1. The Heartless existed in KH1 before Riku gave into it. Which means this.. When Xehanort over threw Ansem the Wise, he got to work on creating beings (Heartless) to devour hearts. Then when the Heartless got to Destiny Islands, it consumed Riku, and fought Sora. Thus KH1 was staged until the time was right.

I... I was not expecting you to post anything like that... lol

That's exactly what i wanted to know. Another theory it just doesn't make sense. I was thinking that Ventus's Nobdy might actually be Riku. though it sounds stupid.. again... what if Vanitas looks like Riku with Black hair? In the trailer we see Ventus tlaking ot Riku. In another trailer though we see Ventus asking to "Take me back" maybe he-himself wants to be brought back to childhood as Sora? Vanitas's battle stance is way too weird to just ignore. It looks like riku's 100% That's what led me in-on this theory but i knew if I typed it up there ^ I would be flamed like charcoal. Riku has a connection between them somehow. If any fan-girl Riku fan is up to the task, I'm sure we could find so similarities between Ventus, Vanitas, and Riku somehow before the came comes out.

well, my theory is that he might look just like Ven, and he doesn't want Ventus to know. Personally I think Vanitas is the first Heartless to ever exist.

I'm not known well on this board, but I think I should probably post my theories here and save my self the effort from the "I told you so" category. Now mind you before i begin, this is just a theory and I am in-no-way positive of this at all. This is just something I've thought about, and thought i'd share with the other KH fans out there like myself. Another thing... I am in no way, shape, or form saying my theory is better then anyone else's. In fact, it was by a few that I read, that helped me gather my theory at all. Enjoy reading, comments are welcomed, and encouraged. -====================================================- 1.Golden Eyes; I myself would like to believe that this is more-or-less a badge of honour in being close to the darkness. It is well known that Xemnas has Golden eyes and a few others. This doesn't surprise me as the only ones with hearts close to darkness gain this characteristic. -====================================================- 2. Terra; I personally believe that this is the man that will in the future become Ansem's apprentice, and later to the evil overlord Xehanort. In Ansem's diary entries, he talks about finding a man whose memory was lost. However that he very prodigic. He learned things fast, and quickly became very intelligent in the dark part of hearts. It was by studying this that led him to get changed himself, and to quickly over throw ansem, and proceed to take his Masters name as his own. In the BBS trailers we see that during the middle/end of the story, Terra get's the "Golden Eyes" characteristic. Now again I believe it to just mean that it is only for one whose heart is close to darkness. I.E. Master Xehanort. In the end, I just have a feeling that Master Xehanort and Terra have a battle. I'm guessing that in this battle somehow (maybe due to the darkness in both) they fuse, and form Ansem's Apprentice. This would make sense on why he's so close to darkness already, and that they almost have identical facial features and characteristics. I'm betting that after this fight they have, Terra only remembers 1 persons name whom he hates so much... Xehanort. It was by this memory that he made it his name after he had over thrown Ansem the wise. As, this was the only thing he could truly remember before meeting Ansem. My story is backed up in KH2FM. In a cutscene it is seen that Xemnas is walking down a long hall toward a room at the end of the hall. When he sits down in a chair, the room lights up, and so does something else. On the floor we see Aqua's armour lying there. It has come to speculation by Zexion and a few other Organization XII members, that he does this often. He to calling it his "Old Friend". This has also come to a few theories leading this room to be "The room of awakening". Maybe Xemnas's Memories are pouring out? Another way to back this theory up is to just play KH2. In KH2 before/after you fight Saix, Saix tell's Sora that nobodies don't have hearts, however they remember what it was like. When Sora asks Xemnas if he remembers what it was like, I believe it went like this. Sora: Xemnas... theirs more to a heart then just anger, power, and rage... It's filled with all kind of feelings. Don't you remember? to which Xemnas responds Xemnas: Unfortunately... I don't. Think about why that is. Maybe lost memory before? How about a final fight with Xehanort that might lead his memory to be wiped. -====================================================- 3. Ventus; His story is unclear at this moment. However from what I have gathered, he does look a lot like Sora. However, it isn't really shown where Sora is at this time. Sure, maybe in magazine scans but in trailer;video format you haven't seen Sora anywhere near Ventus. Now tell me why is that? I have a theory on this as well. Read Below. -====================================================- 4. Vanitas; When I was following BBS for a long time, I thought that man under this helmet would look like Riku. Not anymore. The more i think about it now, looking back at everything. At Kairi's past, at riku's past, and then to Soras... that's when it hit me. how does Soras nobody (roxas) look like Ventus... even before their story was even started. Well, Sora is only shown as a child, but never mentioned beforehand. The lead director has said Vanitas has sora's voice actor, and that's when it hit me. What if the man under that mask looks like Sora? More-to-the point what if that man might actually be Ventus's heartless? I know i know, it sounds stupid as crap, but think about it. All throughout the story, you keep hearing that Ventus has lost his heart. What if that's what he's looking for? What if that's what makes him so special? I mean, hell, he even has the heartless form-tight leather heartless uniform. What if Vanitas is truly, the first heartless ever to exist. If this is the case, I'm wondering if that the final battle we see, might just not be both fusing somehow. (Maybe to the darkness again) and the only way that Vanitas could exist (being so filled with Darkness) is to be brought back to Childhood. To where, he could live purely as Ventus, but to have to live through Vanitas's body. You wanted wanted to know why Roxas looks like Vanitas, this would make sense. That, and Sora is actually about a year or two younger, then Riku and Kairi. If not this, it might actually be possible it could be a whole-new character together. Maybe someone who looks like a boy-version on Xion. *shrugs* I can't get into detail here as my girl friend would think i pay more attention to a game character, rather then her... so.. yeah... -=========================================================- Now again, these were just a few theories I though I'd share with you. If you even think they suck, or can prove me wrong, please comment. I just want ot unlock the secret behind these characters as-soon-as-possible. I'm a little on the short side in cash so, I can't get a PSP to play this game anytime soon. I'll have to rely on subbed versions of DChiuch's videos on his youtube channel. Believe me though, I wont miss a minute of it.