KHRecoded Braig or Xigbar? (Spoilers for 2.5/Re:coded)

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Okay as most of us know arleady, (and for those who don't: What are you wating for!?) A new Secret Endign was added to the HD cutscenes of Re:coded in 2.5 and ther are some dissenting opinions on who one of the characters is.

 

 

This scene takes place between the end of Re:coded and the beginning of DDD, as you can see by the presence of Lea and Isa and the fact that Ienzo is an adult.

Now I want your opinions, is the person talking to Young Xehanort in this scene Braig from near the end of or sometime shortly after BbS or Xigbar after being recompleted? Some say it's Xigbar because it doesn't make sense for there to be two of the same character. Others say it's Braig because time travel. What about you?

 

Personally, I'm in camp Braig. Not only does he have shorter hair with no streaks but even his face is younger here than it is in KH2 and DDD. If he was reconfigured, he should still have the same amount of age on his face. 

 

PS, Sorry if this has been posted before, but I don't think it's ever been a poll.

 

Doesn't really matter since they're the same guy since they both have hearts and the exact same memories and experience

 

I'd say Xigbar cuz he's already in the process of becoming a Xehanort clone.........which after DDD is what the X in their name refers to

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

Doesn't really matter since they're the same guy since they both have hearts and the exact same memories and experience

 

I'd say Xigbar cuz he's already in the process of becoming a Xehanort clone.........which after DDD is what the X in their name refers to

I use the name "Braig" only to differentiate between the BbS and KH2 versions, as in "Braig" be in from the past rather than he present.

Edited August 28, 2016 by Isamu Kuno

[Dio Brando 5,810]

I use the name "Braig" only to differentiate between the BbS and KH2 versions, as in "Braig" be in from the past rather than he present.

Well the scene that happened in 2.5 is something that I suspect happened after Xehanort stabbed the apprentices and that those were the bodies left that would later join the Organization as nobodies A.K.A after BBS and before KH 1

 

Notice how Braig\Xigbar doesn't look as old as he does in KH2 and DDD cuz keep in mind that even as nobodies their actual bodies age as the time progress

 

and Young Xehanort is a time traveler so it isn't too farfetched he made a stop at the point in time they became nobodies and then resumed to the time Ansem SoD summoned him in in DDD

Edited August 25, 2016 by Smash Mega Koopa

[Master Eraqus 1,340]

He's not just not wearing his black coat, he also has way short hair and no grey strips in it. If he was the recompleted version he should look older like Zexion does in KH3D. I'm thinking they just firetrucked up with the models or didn't give a shit.

If I recall correctly, I believe it was stated in an interview that when someone is recompleted after their Heartless and Nobody are destroyed, they were the clothes that they were wearing before the separation, which would explain the outfits of Dilan, Even, Aeleus and Ienzo.

 

As for the hair, that does peek my interest since his hair is not grown like Xigbar's since Lea's and Ienzo's hairs grew like their respective Nobodies.

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

Well the scene that happened in 2.5 is something that I suspect happened after Xehanort stabbed the apprentices and that those were the bodies left that would later join the Organization as nobodies A.K.A after BBS and before KH 1

 

Notice how Braig\Xigbar doesn't look as old as he does in KH2 and DDD cuz keep in mind that even as nobodies their actual bodies age as the time progress

 

and Young Xehanort is a time traveler so it isn't too farfetched he made a stop at the point in time they became nobodies and then resumed to the time Ansem SoD summoned him in in DDD

But bodies vanish almost immediately. They would have been gone by the time Lea and Isa became Nobodies. And YX could have just as easily brought BbS Xigbar to the point in time when the original Org members where reconstructed. AND as you said, the bodies retain the age they where as Nobodies when they return to being human, and you can see Ienzo is much older here than when his heart was taken. Edited August 25, 2016 by Isamu_Kuno

[Dio Brando 5,810]

But bodies vanish almost immediately. They would have been gone by the time Lea and Isa became Nobodies. And YX could have just as easily brought BbS Xigbar to the point in time when the original Org members where reconstructed. AND as you said, the bodies retain the age they where as Nobodies when they return to being human, and you can see Ienzo is much older here than when his heart was taken.

Not really

 

The bodies weren't gone hence why the nobodies are literally the bodies of a human being animated only without their hearts

 

that scene in 2.5 was way before DDD and not during it....it like happened right after Xehanort turned them into nobodies

 

When Ienzo was unconcious we didn't really get a good view for how tall he gotten compared to DDD where we saw the apprentices awakes first hand each have been aged quite a lot compared to when they became heartless

 

The fact that Braig\Xigbar looked as young as he did in that scene means it happened a while ago and iirc he did mention something about gathering members

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

Not really

 

The bodies weren't gone hence why the nobodies are literally the bodies of a human being animated only without their hearts

 

that scene in 2.5 was way before DDD and not during it....it like happened right after Xehanort turned them into nobodies

 

When Ienzo was unconcious we didn't really get a good view for how tall he gotten compared to DDD where we saw the apprentices awakes first hand each have been aged quite a lot compared to when they became heartless

 

The fact that Braig\Xigbar looked as young as he did in that scene means it happened a while ago and iirc he did mention something about gathering members

Compare his height to Vexen, he should be much shorter. And Lea and Isa shouldn't even be there they weren't there during the initial experiment. Even if they where they should be much younger. Braig is the only person in that scene who's around the same age as he was in BbS and that could be because he's from the past. It would make sense as to why Young Xehanort was there in the BbS time period.

According to the Secret Ansem reports,when a person looses their heart the body vanishes and reappears as a Nobody in a different world.

Edited August 28, 2016 by Isamu Kuno

[ShadowKeyblade 219]

Not really

 

The bodies weren't gone hence why the nobodies are literally the bodies of a human being animated only without their hearts

 

that scene in 2.5 was way before DDD and not during it....it like happened right after Xehanort turned them into nobodies

 

When Ienzo was unconcious we didn't really get a good view for how tall he gotten compared to DDD where we saw the apprentices awakes first hand each have been aged quite a lot compared to when they became heartless

 

The fact that Braig\Xigbar looked as young as he did in that scene means it happened a while ago and iirc he did mention something about gathering members

That doesn't really make sense, though... just consider that Lea and Isa were there on the ground, clearly aged and in black cloaks during that 2.5 cutscene. Now, why would they look like they were in their mid 20s only a year after they met Ven, and more importantly, why on earth would they be wearing black cloaks before joining the organization? The other apprentices weren't even wearing black cloaks.

 

As far as Braig looking younger, I think you can really just blame that on them not wanting to make another model for one cutscene.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

That doesn't really make sense, though... just consider that Lea and Isa were there on the ground, clearly aged and in black cloaks during that 2.5 cutscene. Now, why would they look like they were in their mid 20s only a year after they met Ven, and more importantly, why on earth would they be wearing black cloaks before joining the organization? The other apprentices weren't even wearing black cloaks.

 

As far as Braig looking younger, I think you can really just blame that on them not wanting to make another model for one cutscene.

Well the last blame can be applied to Lea and Isa too

 

Although now that you've mentioned it it really isn't hard to have Braig\Xigbar's hair be long on his BBS model so laziness is actually a good reason

[ShadowKeyblade 219]

Well the last blame can be applied to Lea and Isa too

 

Although now that you've mentioned it it really isn't hard to have Braig\Xigbar's hair be long on his BBS model so laziness is actually a good reason

Yeah I was actually thinking the same right after I posted it, haha. I guess they didn't know what to do about their clothes.

 

It's weird, Ienzo gets a new model, but none of these three do (okay, Lea has his teardrop tattoos gone, but the difference is minimal other than that).

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Yeah I was actually thinking the same right after I posted it, haha. I guess they didn't know what to do about their clothes.

 

It's weird, Ienzo gets a new model, but none of these three do (okay, Lea has his teardrop tattoos gone, but the difference is minimal other than that).

Well in DDD we only saw Lea(although him remembering his time as a nobody he might as well be called Axel human edition heck everyone calls him Axel)  Even,Ienzo and maybe Aeleus waking up on screen the rest were offscreen doing something

[Hallowseve 143]

I always call him Xigbar, simply because he's wearing the black coat, lol.

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

I always call him Xigbar, simply because he's wearing the black coat, lol.

He isn't in this scene. He's wearing his Readiant Garden Castle Guard uniform.

[Joker 1,560]

I thought it was clear that it was Birag and the one in DDD was a time traveling Xigbar

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

I thought it was clear that it was Birag and the one in DDD was a time traveling Xigbar

Nothing is clear in KH. Itcould be a time traveling Braig, a reformed Braig, or the one in 3D could be a time traveller or reformed Braig still using his Org. name. But the one in 3D just looks older than the on in Re:coded, and it's not just the hair, the lines on Xigbars face look deeper.

Edited September 12, 2016 by Isamu Kuno

[Elfdemon_ 695]

do you know when they became nobodies? who said that they were still kids when it happened? there is a time frame of 9 years for when the experiment happened

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucb9qe4dC5Y This cutscene shows Even and Ienzo turning into Heartless. Ienzo is a little boy in this cutscene.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmguWHngmg0 In this cutscene, Ienzo is a full-grown adult. Since he's a full-grown adult in this cutscene, this means that this cutscene takes place after Re:coded, because he was a little boy way back when he turned into a Heartless. This also means that this cutscene shows the Organization members having turned into people again.