Tails 6,692 Posted August 23, 2016 Okay I know that this is mainly aimed towards the people that watched the old live action show of Batman & Robin but this just looks...so weird to me. I'm more used to Batman being strong, intimidating, and intelligent. Seeing this version of Batman again only in animated form in this day and age looks so weird to me. 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 5,715 Posted August 23, 2016 What this is is the best Batman. The one that didn't pander to edgelords and try hards. The one that focused more on fun and less on brooding. The one that, frankly, was far more truthful to the comics than most people ever want to admit. For people who are disappointed, I'm sure you can go to Hot Topic and drown your sorrows in all that deep and cutting edge Heath Ledger merch. 5 HarLea Quinn, A Heartless Nobody, HeyMouseSayCheese and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted August 23, 2016 While the campy Batman is not my favorite interpretation, I wouldn't call it weird. After all, Adam West was the first real live-action Batman. (not counting the old serials) 1 Firaga reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Awesome Sauce 634 Posted August 23, 2016 What is this? A one-off movie meant to be a love letter to the fans of the 60s show. I really don't get why some are up in arms about this, it's not as if Batman has always been dark and brooding... 1 Firaga reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) People are so used to the gritty interpretations that they forgot that Batman is a pop icon that can be spun in many different directions, similar to something like Transformers or Ninja Turtles. The Silver Age/Adam West incarnation of Batman, as ridiculous as it is, is no different, and has it's own merits as well. What this is is the best Batman. The one that didn't pander to edgelords and try hards. The one that focused more on fun and less on brooding. The one that, frankly, was far more truthful to the comics than most people ever want to admit. For people who are disappointed, I'm sure you can go to Hot Topic and drown your sorrows in all that deep and cutting edge Heath Ledger merch. Yikes. I hate edgelords as much as the next guy, but as I just said, it's a property that can be more than one thing. Besides, you can't deny the notoriety and the legitimate artistry we've gotten from dark Batman like the Tim Burton films, Batman: The Animated Series, and the Arkham games. Edited August 23, 2016 by Firaga Sensei Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeyMouseSayCheese 1,133 Posted August 23, 2016 What this is is the best Batman. The one that didn't pander to edgelords and try hards. The one that focused more on fun and less on brooding. The one that, frankly, was far more truthful to the comics than most people ever want to admit. For people who are disappointed, I'm sure you can go to Hot Topic and drown your sorrows in all that deep and cutting edge Heath Ledger merch. Adam West is in fact best Batman, and was honestly way cooler than the Batman comics of the time (most 60's Batman comics were Batman and Robin getting the shit kicked out of them by the random villain of the month until either the villain died of Batman just decided to catch them). That said, still do love badass Batman. Not every interpretation if full-on grimdark, y'know. 1 Dave reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Heartless Nobody 120 Posted August 23, 2016 What are you talking about? This thing looks amazing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keyslinger 307 Posted August 23, 2016 Without this show Batman wouldn't be in the mainstream. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 5,715 Posted August 23, 2016 People are so used to the gritty interpretations that they forgot that Batman is a pop icon that can be spun in many different directions, similar to something like Transformers or Ninja Turtles. The Silver Age/Adam West incarnation of Batman, as ridiculous as it is, is no different, and has it's own merits as well. Yikes. I hate edgelords as much as the next guy, but as I just said, it's a property that can be more than one thing. Besides, you can't deny the notoriety and the legitimate artistry we've gotten from dark Batman like the Tim Burton films, Batman: The Animated Series, and the Arkham games. I was overstating for sure, mostly because in the last year we've gotten the Frank Milleresque "Batman v Superman," the creepypasta Joker in "Suicide Squad," and a rather disappointing outing in "The Killing Joke" (which, ironically, is one of the best moments for Batman as a character, where we fully understand that he doesn't just kill the Joker because he actually just doesn't want to). I just want something that gets off of the dark n' gritty train for a bit. 1 Firaga reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted August 23, 2016 I was overstating for sure, mostly because in the last year we've gotten the Frank Milleresque "Batman v Superman," the creepypasta Joker in "Suicide Squad," and a rather disappointing outing in "The Killing Joke" (which, ironically, is one of the best moments for Batman as a character, where we fully understand that he doesn't just kill the Joker because he actually just doesn't want to). I just want something that gets off of the dark n' gritty train for a bit. "Creepypasta Joker". That's a new one. I get what you mean though. We've had a lot of gritty Batman stuff in the past few years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted August 23, 2016 What this is is the best Batman. The one that didn't pander to edgelords and try hards. The one that focused more on fun and less on brooding. The one that, frankly, was far more truthful to the comics than most people ever want to admit. For people who are disappointed, I'm sure you can go to Hot Topic and drown your sorrows in all that deep and cutting edge Heath Ledger merch. You do realize his backstory is still seeing Zoro with his parents and then they're murdered in an ally by some random criminal and Bruce dedicates the rest of his life towards seeking justice against those who pray against the innocent, all while dressed up in a costume that's meant to intimidate and spook bad guys with how dark and creepy it is supposed to looks, right? Because literally nothing about that was different back then, the only thing that has changed is just in how the adventures are depicted, and honestly how they are depicted from the 80's to today feels like a much more likely series of progression from such a backstory rather than "I will fight crime with witty catchphrases and use bat shark repellent" and all that. I'm not saying it's not an enjoyable style to enjoy the series in. It is where things started and if not for that we wouldn't have the darker stuff the most people like today. There's a certain ironic charm that the more goofy golden age days had. But you got to understand that that was just how things were back then, and now a days we have a different tone with all of the comics, beyond just Batman. It's not necessarily a bad thing that things are darker and grittier these days, it all really just depends on your tastes. I will say though, a little balance never hurt anyone. If anything, the 90's animated Batman series is probably one of the best depictions of Batman in my opinion, combining a good deal of the Burton-esque drama, darkness, and tragedy of the Dark Knight, while at the same time not being one to shy away from having some occasionally goofy and even campy moments, usually portrayed in the form of it's villains (though even Batman doesn't shy away from chuckling every once in a while). You can have both dark and gritty AND goofy and lightheartedness, you just gotta use both of them well. I will admit though, we are kind of having an opposite problem to the Golden age these days, where we're putting more value and focus on the dark and heavy atmosphere of comic based movies rather than trying to have a more balanced amount of darkness and goofiness, at least from the DC end of things anyway. It'd be real nice to find that middle ground again, like how Marvel seems to be doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted August 23, 2016 (edited) You can have both dark and gritty AND goofy and lightheartedness, you just gotta use both of them well. He just said he was exaggerating. It's because of how much dark Batman we've been getting that he wants to see more campy Batman to counterbalance the edginess. Edited August 23, 2016 by Firaga Sensei Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted August 23, 2016 He just said he was exaggerating. It's because of how much dark Batman we've been getting that he wants to see more campy Batman to counterbalance the edginess. Yeah but I don't believe in that kind of "balancing". It's just trying to make up for one extreme with another, which means that there will be people wanting to see more dark stuff again to make up for that. I'd rather we just go straight to having a balance of both already rather than trying to out-do each other. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted August 23, 2016 Yeah but I don't believe in that kind of "balancing". It's just trying to make up for one extreme with another, which means that there will be people wanting to see more dark stuff again to make up for that. I'd rather we just go straight to having a balance of both already rather than trying to out-do each other. We can still have a balance in the sense we can have both campy and dark Batman. It's like how we can have the TMNT Nicktoon while also having the new TMNT film series, or how the new Power Ranger reboot film is coming out while the newest Power Ranger season in Dino Charge is still airing. It's not about competition between different ideas, its about giving options. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted August 23, 2016 We can still have a balance in the sense we can have both campy and dark Batman. It's like how we can have the TMNT Nicktoon while also having the new TMNT film series, or how the new Power Ranger reboot film is coming out while the newest Power Ranger season in Dino Charge is still airing. It's not about competition between different ideas, its about giving options. I get that but I'd still rather have a middle ground, something that brings fans together rather than divides them and categorizes them. Can't that be an option? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted August 23, 2016 I get that but I'd still rather have a middle ground, something that brings fans together rather than divides them and categorizes them. Can't that be an option? How about we all shut the f*ck up and appreciate Batman in general? That sounds like a good plan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted August 24, 2016 The Adam West version of Batman, animated, huh? That's pretty cool! I bet that fans of West's show are loving this, and will most definitely watch it, ya know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites