Firaga 5,947 Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) What many people argue is whether or not religion is bad-- Stopping you right there. I said that one side is about facts, the other is about stories. You can believe what you want, but there is still such a thing as reality and fiction regardless. Edited August 15, 2016 by Firaga Sensei Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeartlessAqua 38 Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) Didn't say that. I said that one side is about facts, the other is about stories. You can belief what you want, but there is _still_ such a thing as reality and fiction regardless. Precisely. There is a world outside of us and a world inside of us, and both those worlds are valid. Simple psychology. Edited August 15, 2016 by HeartlessAqua Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora_Roxas26 124 Posted August 15, 2016 It's not really much of a debate in the first place when one side is rooted in facts and the other is rooted in stories. thank you! 1 Firaga reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted August 15, 2016 Precisely. There is a world outside of us and a world inside of us, and both those worlds are valid. Simple psychology. Okay, now you're losing me a little. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeartlessAqua 38 Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Okay, now you're losing me a little. It's simple. There's a world outside of us. Earth as is defined by pure hard science. A big mass of rocks and stuff orbiting around a big ball of gas. There is no God or magical force guiding the universe. The universe is just what it is. No good, no bad, no nothing but the things as they are. However, every human being sees the world differently. Human minds are limited by biological components, true, but human minds are still quite vast and variable. What makes one person happy and healthy might not appeal to another person. Might even disgust them, like how Christians might find Aztec ceremonies wicked and evil while the Aztecs themselves saw them as glorious. So many people are obsessed with cold hard facts, but they forget or even dismiss the importance of each individual human psyche, which can function in a variety of ways. Religion is one of those ways, and religion has produced plenty of good in this world. Edited August 16, 2016 by WakelessDream Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora_Roxas26 124 Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Precisely. There is a world outside of us and a world inside of us, and both those worlds are valid. Simple psychology. I never said religion should be outlawed, or is 100% bad, I said that it isn't a debate, Science is the only truth, it therefore would win the debate if you had one. Religion is good for people who don't twist it to fit there evil ways. Edited August 16, 2016 by WakelessDream 1 Firaga reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted August 16, 2016 It's simple. That block of text says otherwise. I'm kidding, I read it all the way through. It basically boils down to "believe what you want", which I already stated, so I guess we're in agreement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeartlessAqua 38 Posted August 16, 2016 we never said religion should be outlawed, or is 100% bad, we said that it isn't a debate, Science is the only truth, it therefore would win the debate if you had one. Well in that case, you are correct. The world is made a certain way as proven by science, and anyone arguing against that would need some pretty fantastic evidence. I was under the impression that this was the debate over whether or not religion was viable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 13th Kenpachi 4,279 Posted August 16, 2016 I saw this coming lol. This debate will spin around in circles forever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted August 16, 2016 But we just reached an agreement with one another... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardrada 117 Posted August 19, 2016 I don't think it's pointless, but people rarely change their views on such things, and many take any criticism as a personal attack. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites