KH3 vs. FF7 Remake

[SnowPint7Fourths 432]

Going to be honest, in my opinion its pretty much a given that FF7 will out sell KH3 by millions of copies and then some. (Sorry!) However in my opinion if they we're to both release in the same year of 2017 (may not happen but possible given anniversaries) KH3 would need to release before FF7. Not because I'm a KH fan but because FF7 will always out sell it's competition with ease no matter what game it's up against. So if both games ended up releasing in 2017 then KH3 would need to release first to give it a chance of not hindering it's sales. If FF7 releases first and then KH3 a few months later, everyone will be too busy playing FF7 and KH3 won't sell as well as intended. In my honest opinion though (which I don't like the thought of) FF7 will release in 2017 and KH3 early 2018. I think the calendar behind young Eraqus in the E3 2015 trailer was intentional to match up to March 2018 as the games worldwide release date.

 

Another thing is.. we've barely had any information on FF7. We had those two trailers in 2015 and it wasn't at E3 this year because Nomura said he did'nt want to release info on the game until KH 2.8 releases.. and its like, what has that got to do with it? It seems strange but probable, given its anniversary, that FF7 will release in 2017 when KH3 was announced way before this remake. Like, we have to wait four years but then FF fans may only have to wait two years after the games announcement. Also we had to wait two years to get an official gameplay trailer where as FF7 got announced and then 6 months later they got a gameplay trailer. The development proccess and priority for KH doesn't exactly feel fair.

Edited August 14, 2016 by SnowPint7Fourths

[Jake 1,488]

I highly doubt that. KH3 is so popular and anticipated, I think not only does it outsell FFVIIR, it outsells both FFXV and FFVIIR combined.

[neil98 313]

Obviously it will outsell KH3. It is the most requested game in history along with Half-Life 3. Although KH3 is much more anticipated because it is a completely new story (not like a Remake, which is a different way to tell an old story), and i think it actually desrves much more attention than the Remake at the moment.

[SnowPint7Fourths 432]

I highly doubt that. KH3 is so popular and anticipated, I think not only does it outsell FFVIIR, it outsells both FFXV and FFVIIR combined.

FF7: 11.1 Million copies

KH2: 3.8 Million copies

Sorry don't mean to sound rude.

 

The point I'm making is not to say "look at FF popularity compared to KH" I just feel KH3 needs to be given the best chance of sales either by releasing a few month before FF7 or way after.

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

I highly doubt that. KH3 is so popular and anticipated, I think not only does it outsell FFVIIR, it outsells both FFXV and FFVIIR combined.

KH3 is not popular enough to outsell Final Fantasy's most beloved title. I can see it competing healthily with FXV but there is no way it outsell FFVII. The reality is Final Fantasy's fan base is wildly larger then that of Kingdom Hearts.

[Jake 1,488]

FF7: 11.1 Million copies

KH2: 3.8 Million copies

Sorry don't mean to sound rude.

The point I'm making is not to say "look at FF popularity compared to KH" I just feel KH3 needs to be given the best chance of sales either by releasing a few month before FF7 or way after.

  

KH3 is not popular enough to outsell Final Fantasy's most beloved title. I can see it competing healthily with FXV but there is no way it outsell FFVII. The reality is Final Fantasy's fan base is wildly larger then that of Kingdom Hearts.

Well I mean, honestly, if it goes to 2018 it has a shot honestly with FFVIIR. FFVII is a great game, but if KH3 gets the exposure it deserves, it can compete somewhat.

[SnowPint7Fourths 432]

Obviously it will outsell KH3. It is the most requested game in history along with Half-Life 3. Although KH3 is much more anticipated because it is a completely new story (not like a Remake, which is a different way to tell an old story), and i think it actually desrves much more attention than the Remake at the moment.

See thats the thing, it's highly anticipated for us the main fan base but others will argue and quite rightly, "FF7 is highly anticipated because its a remake with new current graphics." It's dawned on me with the anniversary of each game that eventually one has to take priority over the other and release first. It kind of scares me tbh how Square Enix will handle the release of both games. If KH3 releases a few months after I feel it will not get that attention it deserves. So that means spreading the releases out and waiting longer for the game. I'm just not sure how and uncertain how they're going to handle it. KH3 needs to release first to get the worlds attention. But that's my opinion.

[Isaix 924]

I doubt Square Enix would release those two big games in the same year.For us fans we'll get both obviously,but for the more casual fan they might pick one over the other since money doesn't grow on trees and they might not care as much as we do and since they are both action-RPGs FFVII would probably be the one they pick.

[SnowPint7Fourths 432]

I doubt Square Enix would release those two big games in the same year.For us fans we'll get both obviously,but for the more casual fan they might pick one over the other since money doesn't grow on trees and they might not care as much as we do and since they are both action-RPGs FFVII would probably be the one they pick.

Yeah I agree. So do you think that FF will release first in 2017? Do you feel the hype for KH 15th anniversary is not worth getting our hopes up for? Like I say, one has to take priority over the other and it worries me when I've realised about FF7 20th anniversary. Maybe KH3 is destined for 2018 after all.

[advfox 698]

Final Fantasy VII sold a lot of copies, but that game is nearly 20 years old now. I'm not going to say that it won't sell more than Kingdom Hearts III, but it's not a given.

[SnowPint7Fourths 432]

Final Fantasy VII sold a lot of copies, but that game is nearly 20 years old now. I'm not going to say that it won't sell more than Kingdom Hearts III, but it's not a given.

I understand where your coming from but for instance the FF7R trailer has 14 million views whereas KH3 trailer has 4 million.. so yanno even that points in its favour

[Isaix 924]

Yeah I agree. So do you think that FF will release first in 2017? Do you feel the hype for KH 15th anniversary is not worth getting our hopes up for? Like I say, one has to take priority over the other and it worries me when I've realised about FF7 20th anniversary. Maybe KH3 is destined for 2018 after all.

I'd say KH3 would be more likely to release next year,but with FFVII remake being episodic they could release the 1st episode next year for the 20th anniversary.If Square really has to pick one of the 2 games for next year and if the anniversary matters then FFVII remake would most likely be the one to be release next year,more people are aware of FFVII's anniversary then KH(I didn't even realized next year was the 15th anniversary of KH)

[DaxtotheMax 193]

FF7 is supposedly going to be in episodes so it will more than likely beat out KH3 in sales but despise that I agree that it would still win even if it's one game. I think it's possible that they release in the same year since FF7 is in episodes (but then again maybe it's just that big) I think KH3 will finish first though since it was announced first and some of the creators of that game I assume will go on to work on FF7 once they are done. Overall I see Final Fantasy VII Remake coming out in 2018, that's 3 good years to work on it since it became official at E3 2015.

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

As a fan, my money is on Kingdom Hearts III, since it's the most wildly anticipated entry in the series, and there's been a lot of hype building up over the years! So I'm sure that when more promotion for the game comes around, more people will be attracted to it!  Lots of new fans will probably take notice of this game!  And well, for us old fans, it's a given we'll get the game!  Even some skeptics that haven't been playing KH as much will probably take a shot at it, ya know?

 

But realistically speaking, Final Fantasy VII has been in the hearts of gamers for a longer time.  Even though I never played the game, I've heard and read from so many different people that FFVII is a masterpiece and that it helped change the face of RPG's and whatnot!  And well, since the Remake is in the works, all eyes are on that, of course.  So yeah, I'm pretty sure that FFVII Remake would probably sell much more!  

 

But honestly, I think that next year can see both games releasing!  I mean, if there's a significant enough time gap between releases, I don't think Kingdom Hearts III's sales would be affected all that much!  Like, for instance, let's say that FFVII Remake releases on July of next year.  And let's say that Kingdom Hearts III comes out in December!  The time gap would be significant, providing the two games with great sales!  But that's just me hoping!

 

I mean come on, next year is the 15th Anniversary of the Kingdom Hearts series, what better way to celebrate 15 years than releasing Kingdom Hearts III!? D:

[Dustin Newton 60]

FFVII might not do as well as you think. A lot of people are angry that it's episodic, and maybe half of those people were/are dumb enough to believe the rumour that each episode will be full priced so they really wont . Also a lot of FF fans are actually sic of hearing about FFVII or are irritated with that the series isnt turn based any more. So the only people who are gonna play it  are the newer fans who love the action combat, ff vii fans that arent angry and the open-minded fans of the series. Which is a more of minority than you might think.

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

I highly doubt that. KH3 is so popular and anticipated, I think not only does it outsell FFVIIR, it outsells both FFXV and FFVIIR combined.

Amen! KH3 is a highly anticipated title and one thing is for sure is HD2.8 will only increase the anticipation for it.

Edited August 15, 2016 by KingdomHearts3

[Isaix 924]

FFVII might not do as well as you think. A lot of people are angry that it's episodic, and maybe half of those people were/are dumb enough to believe the rumour that each episode will be full priced so they really wont . Also a lot of FF fans are actually sic of hearing about FFVII or are irritated with that the series isnt turn based any more. So the only people who are gonna play it  are the newer fans who love the action combat, ff vii fans that arent angry and the open-minded fans of the series. Which is a more of minority than you might think.

I never looked at FF or KH sales figures but its safe to say that the Final Fantasy series sold a lot more games then the Kingdom Hearts series and the best selling FF games sold a lot more copies then the best selling KH games.The FF fanbase is a lot bigger then KH's even if a lot of the recent FF have been bad games.I think FFVIIR could outsell KH3 with the Final Fantasy name alone,I barely know any people who knows about Kingdom Hearts.I wouldn't KH is a niche series,but its certainly not as big and well known as Final Fantasy.I think all the hype for KH3 is mostly from fans like us who've been waiting for the game for years.

[Dustin Newton 60]

I never looked at FF or KH sales figures but its safe to say that the Final Fantasy series sold a lot more games then the Kingdom Hearts series and the best selling FF games sold a lot more copies then the best selling KH games.The FF fanbase is a lot bigger then KH's even if a lot of the recent FF have been bad games.I think FFVIIR could outsell KH3 with the Final Fantasy name alone,I barely know any people who knows about Kingdom Hearts.I wouldn't KH is a niche series,but its certainly not as big and well known as Final Fantasy.I think all the hype for KH3 is mostly from fans like us who've been waiting for the game for years.

you'd think it would outsell from the name alone. No,  there is alot of anger and frustration in the ff fanbase right now. I'm pretty sure there are more kh fans than there are FF fans that actually like ffvii  enough to go through it again

[Sendou Aichi 2,356]

I highly doubt it. 

FF7 alone sells like half of the KH series' with 7 games and the HD remixes+the original COM. 

Not to mention that FF is Square's top selling franchise, meanwhile KH is on the middle.

[Mystics Apprentice 2,397]

I don't think it's possible that KH3 could sell as many copies as Final Fantasy VII.  Final Fantasy reaches out to a wider variety of gamers, and most gamers have at least heard of FF while they aren't as familiar with Kingdom Hearts.  There's also the fact that FF7 has such a reputation and is believed to be the best Final Fantasy in the series (which I beg to differ, but that's a conversation for another place and time), so it has that going for it.  People are going to be psyched to replay this game in its revamped and improved form, and then there's going to be those who missed out on the original who will be psyched to play it.

 

Due to popularity alone Final Fantasy VII will sell more copies.  While KH3 is going to sell like hot cakes among Kingdom Hearts fans, I don't think it could receive the same reception upon gamers worldwide as a whole, predominately because Final Fantasy has a larger name, especially VII.

[KH4Real 749]

FInal Fantasy got much more fans then Kingdom Hearts there you got your answer.

To myself I'm all in for KH3.

[SnowPint7Fourths 432]

FInal Fantasy got much more fans then Kingdom Hearts there you got your answer.

To myself I'm all in for KH3.

I wasn't talking about how large each fanbase was. The comments spiraled off into that discussion for some reason haha!

[neil98 313]

See thats the thing, it's highly anticipated for us the main fan base but others will argue and quite rightly, "FF7 is highly anticipated because its a remake with new current graphics." It's dawned on me with the anniversary of each game that eventually one has to take priority over the other and release first. It kind of scares me tbh how Square Enix will handle the release of both games. If KH3 releases a few months after I feel it will not get that attention it deserves. So that means spreading the releases out and waiting longer for the game. I'm just not sure how and uncertain how they're going to handle it. KH3 needs to release first to get the worlds attention. But that's my opinion.

Believe me, through the last 4/5 years I've seen people on Youtube anticipating KH3 way more than they have FF7, although when the latter got announced, the whole internet was in shock. And that's how I think it's going to be with every information release from the game. Still, just for the first reason, I think KH3 is more anticipated.

[SnowPint7Fourths 432]

Believe me, through the last 4/5 years I've seen people on Youtube anticipating KH3 way more than they have FF7, although when the latter got announced, the whole internet was in shock. And that's how I think it's going to be with every information release from the game. Still, just for the first reason, I think KH3 is more anticipated.

Yeah I agree with that. KH3 can be anticipated more since its almost been 10 years for myself (UK) since kh2 was released. I would love for KH3 to release before FF but its just so uncertain at the moment. If the kh3 trailer says now in development later this year it will put 2017 into serious doubt.

Edited August 14, 2016 by SnowPint7Fourths

[neil98 313]

Yeah I agree with that. KH3 can be anticipated more since its almost been 10 years for myself (UK) since kh2 was released. I would love for KH3 to release before FF but its just so uncertain at the moment. If the kh3 trailer says now in development later this year it will put 2017 into serious doubt.

At this point, the release date is either December 2017 or March 2018, as the E3 2015's calendar strongly hints at it.