The 13th Kenpachi 4,279 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Please happen, I'd like to play this game at 60 fps. Final Fantasy characters are already PC approved since that franchise has had huge success on steam. Mods would probably be prohibited since Disney are strict with their properties, but PC is very profitable http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Nvidia-Game-Sales-Data-640x357.jpg http://www.winbeta.org/news/pc-games-still-rule-consoles-mobile-2015-sales PC is currently the highest selling platform, so it's a huge cash grab for Disney. There are a lot of JRPGS on steam that have had good success like Tales of Zestiria. KH3 is also being developed with Direct X11 which makes it perfect for PC. However a PC port wouldn't release for at least 6-9 months after the console release. KH3 on an XBone shows that they don't mind the game being multiplatform. For a game that looks as graphically impressive as KH3 I don't think a PS4 and an Xbox One will do it justice. I definitely want a PC port. Thoughts? Edited July 19, 2016 by Shinobi Palace 1 Clouded Sun reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Considering DDD on 2.8 is running in 60 fps on the PS4, I don't see why KH3 wouldn't do the same on PS4 and Xbox One. I'm not really one for PC gaming much. I prefer using consoles, so I'm indifferent towards a PC port. EDIT: PC port? Sure, why not? Edited July 19, 2016 by Master Eraqus 2 kingofnowhere and The 13th Kenpachi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 13th Kenpachi 4,279 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) [*]Considering DDD on 2.8 is running in 60 fps on the PS4, I don't see why KH3 wouldn't do the same on PS4 and Xbox One. [*]I'm not really one for PC gaming much. I prefer using consoles, so I'm indifferent towards a PC port. KH3 at 60 fps on a PS4 and an Xbox One? You can't compare a 3DS game to a game made strictly for PS4 and Xbone. Dude, FF15 can't run at 60 fps on console, they had trouble getting it to 30. DDD is a 3DS game. No way is KH3 running at 60 fps on an Xbox one let alone a PS4. A PC port isn't going to affect you though so I don't see why it's an issue... Edited July 19, 2016 by Shinobi Palace 1 Soul_Seeker reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Eraqus 1,340 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) KH3 at 60 fps on a PS4 and an Xbox One? You can't compare a 3DS game to a game made strictly for PS4 and Xbone. Dude, FF15 can't run at 60 fps on console, they had trouble getting it to 30. DDD is a 3DS game. No way is KH3 running at 60 fps on an Xbox one let alone a PS4.A PC port isn't going to affect you though so I don't see why it's an issue... It's not an issue. I'm just saying that if DDD on the PS4 is running at 60 fps, then why wouldn't the others run at 60 fps? Edited July 19, 2016 by Master Eraqus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 13th Kenpachi 4,279 Posted July 19, 2016 It's not an issue. I'm just saying that if DDD on the PS4 is running at 60 fps, then why wouldn't the others run at 60 fps? mDDD is a 3DS game formerly, so it can run at 60fps on a PS4.KH3 is being made on UE4 using DX11, consoles are underpowered and the game is large. Nomura even said that the play volume is overwhelming. Therefore, there is like a 5-10% likelihood of KH3 running at 60 fps on an Xbox One or a PS4. No way can a big game like KH3 run at 60 fps on a home console.http://www.videogamerplus.com/2014/09/60-fps-native-1080p-ps4-games-list.html?m=1The majority of PS4 games that run at 60fps are remasters. DDD and KH3 are completely different games developed on different hardware using different engines.KH3 is not running at 60fps on a PS4. You'd be able to tell from the trailers if it was running at 60. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowKeyblade 219 Posted July 19, 2016 Here's where I become the selfish asshole: No. My thought process isn't rational, I just hate PC gaming. Seriously though, not everything needs to come to PC. 1 The 13th Kenpachi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 13th Kenpachi 4,279 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Here's where I become the selfish asshole: No. My thought process isn't rational, I just hate PC gaming.Seriously though, not everything needs to come to PC.Again, why does it bother you so much? And why do you hate PC gaming? And not everything needs to come to console, why should it when PC is a better market. Just because you hate it automatically means no one else should get to play it on PC? Wow. Edited July 19, 2016 by Shinobi Palace 1 The Deathdealer reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowKeyblade 219 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Again, why does it bother you so much?And why do you hate PC gaming? Like I said, it isn't rational. I have no explanation as of yet, it just bothers me. I think I just liked the exclusivity. Well let's see... PC gaming isn't intuitive to set up and is more frustrating than it's worth, digital only (or practically digital only) sucks, high cost to run anything amazingly, the PC master race. There's a bit more to it than that, but those are some of the big ones. I just vastly prefer the console life. If KH3 came to PC, they'd force my hand because I need the best version of that game, which would kill myself on the inside, my wallet, and my patience for setting things up without everything going to hell. EDIT: And for what you edited, yes. firetruck the PC market. This is the one thing I will be selfish about with no regrets. Edited July 19, 2016 by ShadowKeyblade Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 13th Kenpachi 4,279 Posted July 19, 2016 Like I said, it isn't rational. I have no explanation as of yet, it just bothers me. I think I just liked the exclusivity. Well let's see... PC gaming isn't intuitive to set up and is more frustrating than it's worth, digital only (or practically digital only) sucks, high cost to run anything amazingly, the PC master race. There's a bit more to it than that, but those are some of the big ones. I just vastly prefer the console life. If KH3 came to PC, they'd force my hand because I need the best version of that game, which would kill myself on the inside, my wallet, and my patience for setting things up without everything going to hell. It took me 2 cables to set up my PC, 1 in the HDMI slot and 1 power cable. Press the button and my PC turned on. Wasn't too hard, whilst my PS4 took hours since I had to do numerous updates. You can buy PC games on disc so that's a bad argument. High cost to run amazingly? Yet you'll pay full price for a PS4+money for an annual membership+ money for those ridiculously expensive games that cost $60. A PC may cost more up front but in the long run it's far cheaper. The PC master race? That makes no sense. 3 The Deathdealer, Clouded Sun and Soul_Seeker reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowKeyblade 219 Posted July 19, 2016 I'm sorry for being rude but oh my gosh that is a terrible argument. It took me 2 cables to set up my PC, 1 in the HDMI slot and 1 power cable. Press the button and my PC turned on. Wasn't too hard, whilst my PS4 took hours since I had to do numerous updates. You can buy PC games on disc so that's a bad argument. High cost to run amazingly? Yet you'll pay full price for a PS4+money for an annual membership+ money for those ridiculously expensive games that cost $60. A PC may cost more up front but in the long run it's far cheaper. The PC master race? That makes no sense. Setting up the hardware? No, I'm talking about the problems with the game itself. Stuff that doesn't work for unexplained reasons, and running poorly for no apparent reason even though you have the right specs. Some are on disks, I don't think most ports are, though. High cost-- Full price for PS4 is much cheaper, online is mostly irrelevant for what I play, and the base cost for games is barely cheaper on PC. You do get more sales on PCs, but it's not as if you don't get price drops and sales with console games so that kind of argument holds no water. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Headphone Jack 1,147 Posted July 19, 2016 yea i don't see why not. let more people play the game by having it available on more platforms. also maybe someone can mod a KH2 outfit for Sora Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clouded Sun 1,232 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Like I said, it isn't rational. I have no explanation as of yet, it just bothers me. I think I just liked the exclusivity.Well let's see... PC gaming isn't intuitive to set up and is more frustrating than it's worth, digital only (or practically digital only) sucks, high cost to run anything amazingly, the PC master race. There's a bit more to it than that, but those are some of the big ones. I just vastly prefer the console life. If KH3 came to PC, they'd force my hand because I need the best version of that game, which would kill myself on the inside, my wallet, and my patience for setting things up without everything going to hell.EDIT: And for what you edited, yes. F**k the PC market. This is the one thing I will be selfish about with no regrets. Wow. PC gamers put a lot more work, effort and money into their system. And for cheaper, considering you need a laptop/computer and want a gaming platform these days. So yeah, SOME are arrogant, maybe or maybe not justifiably, although it's inexcusable to be a d*** about it. Who cares? They know they're stuff, console is plug and play, they deserve a reward equivalent to what they reap. It causes frustration but the stuff that's in that piece of hardware — it's what they did research about and built — with their own hands. Rightfully so they should have bragging rights I think. Again, minus being a d*** about it cause in all honesty their hardware is better. If you go into the PC community, however alien they seem from console players' standpoints, they're a LOT more dedicated to their games. Steam reviews are insightful and in depth. The community itself is a lot more attached and closer knit with each other. No pay to play online crap. Developers are so much more forthcoming and open to people on PC exclusives. Steam Greenlight. And Steam Sales make PSN cry. On the topic of whether or not KHIII should come to PC? A resounding yes in my book. People are getting fed up (myself and friends included) with the console market forcing us to upgrade for the same price as the old hardware we got at launch with promises of greatness (and we get HD remastered ports of games and sequels with overhyped mediocre first party exclusive media and triple A drought). Now with the new Project Scorpio, PS4 Neo (which, hell yeah, you'll NEED to play VR) and all that stuff, people are getting fed up and slowly but surely migrating to PC. Not only is there an ever growing market, but people are loving the highest quality and smoothest and immersive experience possible. SHOULD IT COME TO PC? HELL YEAH!Will it?Probably not. Disney abhors copyright infringement. PC gamers will buy it but SOME WILL ALSO PIRATE TOO. It's much easier to pirate software on PC than on console (not like you still don't have to jump through hoops) but I bet that's the absolute biggest fear of Disney selling anything that isn't ToonTown on PC. Edited July 19, 2016 by Sun Wukong 4 Sendou Aichi, The 13th Kenpachi, The Deathdealer and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowKeyblade 219 Posted July 19, 2016 Wow.PC gamers put a lot more work, effort and money into their system. And for cheaper, considering you need a laptop/computer and want a gaming platform these days. So yeah, SOME are arrogant, maybe or maybe not justifiably, although it's inexcusable to be a d*** about it. Who cares? They know they're stuff, console is plug and play, they deserve a reward equivalent to what they reap. It causes frustration but the stuff that's in that piece of hardware — it's what they did research about and built — with their own hands. Rightfully so they should have bragging rights I think. Again, minus being a d*** about it cause in all honesty their hardware is better. If you go into the PC community, however alien they seem from console players' standpoints, they're a LOT more dedicated to their games. Steam reviews are insightful and in depth. The community itself is a lot more attached and closer knit with each other. No pay to play online crap. Developers are so much more forthcoming and open to people on PC exclusives. Steam Greenlight. And Steam Sales make PSN cry.On the topic of whether or not KHIII should come to PC? A resounding yes in my book. People are getting fed up (myself and friends included) with the console market forcing us to upgrade for the same price as the old hardware we got at launch with promises of greatness (and we get HD remastered ports of games and sequels with overhyped mediocre first party exclusive media and triple A drought). Now with the new Project Scorpio, PS4 Neo (which, hell yeah, you'll NEED to play VR) and all that stuff, people are getting fed up and slowly but surely migrating to PC. Not only is there an ever growing market, but people are loving the highest quality and smoothest and immersive experience possible. SHOULD IT COME TO PC? HELL YEAH!Will it?Probably not. Disney abhors copyright infringement. PC gamers will buy it but SOME WILL ALSO PIRATE TOO. It's much easier to pirate software on PC than on console (not like you still don't have to jump through hoops) but I bet that's the absolute biggest fear of Disney selling anything that isn't ToonTown on PC. I did say on multiple occasions I was irrational about it, lol. It's the one thing I'm really selfish about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clouded Sun 1,232 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) I love you Sun Wukong.He's on my side, so he's okay. Hush Amyizen.It's the straight up truth. And that simple. It's unfair for people who supposedly loathe and hate the PC platform to disregard all the facts that are right there in front of em. Consoles are great with first party software. Nintendo is great because however weak the Wii U is, they supported that shit to the very end. Busting out amiibo Splatoon Smash, they never pushed it to the side like Sony did with the Vita, never said it was trash like Sony did. I'm a resentful Sony owner maybe, I have every PS console and every PS handheld in existence. I loved my PS2. I loved my PS3. I loved my PSP. But I hate Sony crapping in the face of the Vita and they will do the same to vanilla PS4 since it'll be old news whenever Neo comes out.I did say on multiple occasions I was irrational about it, lol. It's the one thing I'm really selfish about.That's unfortunate. Maybe one day you'll see how it is. Edited July 19, 2016 by Sun Wukong 1 The 13th Kenpachi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted July 19, 2016 It will very likely come to PC, due to the fact that their is a lot of money in PC Gaming, the port will be easy if you want to know more I made a post a while back about the possibility of a PC Port for Kingdom Hearts 3 which I also would argue would be much easier to port than Final Fantasy XV. It could actually take skilled 12 guys to port like the Batman Arkham Knight Port. The problem with the port wasn't necessarily the people, but the amount of time it took to port, thus making it a very cheap port to make as most ports are. http://kh13.com/forum/topic/93541-possibility-of-kingdom-hearts-3-coming-to-pc/ I hope this game comes to PC because 1. It will be limited by the console either with Frame rate, resolution, the graphics, and mods 2. I shouldn't have to buy a console to play a multiplatform game such as Kingdom Hearts 3 or Final Fantasy XV 3. The hardware will upgrade to will, be more powerful than any console including the PS4 Neo and Xbox Scorpio, so why should I have to buy a limited version of the game itself. 4. It also saves me money, and I can play a better version of the game. Considering DDD on 2.8 is running in 60 fps on the PS4, I don't see why KH3 wouldn't do the same on PS4 and Xbox One. I'm not really one for PC gaming much. I prefer using consoles, so I'm indifferent towards a PC port. EDIT: PC port? Sure, why not? Because Kingdom Hearts 3 is a lot more graphically demanding 1 The 13th Kenpachi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clouded Sun 1,232 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) It will very likely come to PC, due to the fact that their is a lot of money in PC Gaming, the port will be easy if you want to know more I made a post a while back about the possibility of a PC Port for Kingdom Hearts 3 which I also would argue would be much easier to port than Final Fantasy XV. It could actually take skilled 12 guys to port like the Batman Arkham Knight Port. The problem with the port wasn't necessarily the people, but the amount of time it took to port, thus making it a very cheap port to make as most ports are. http://kh13.com/forum/topic/93541-possibility-of-kingdom-hearts-3-coming-to-pc/I hope this game comes to PC because1. It will be limited by the console either with Frame rate, resolution, the graphics, and mods2. I shouldn't have to buy a console to play a multiplatform game such as Kingdom Hearts 3 or Final Fantasy XV3. The hardware will upgrade to will, be more powerful than any console including the PS4 Neo and Xbox Scorpio, so why should I have to buy a limited version of the game itself. 4. It also saves me money, and I can play a better version of the game.Because Kingdom Hearts 3 is a lot more graphically demandingJust cause it can be done doesn't mean it will. Yasue had practically nothing to say when they made KHIII multiplat yet, the interviewer asked why 2.8 isn't. It could very well be the same — just sacrificing sales because.That being said, Unreal Engine 4 makes porting stupidly easy, with only minor bug fixes and adjustments. I'm using the tools myself and can atest to that — to pack as a PC game it's simply a click of a button. Edited July 19, 2016 by Sun Wukong 1 The Deathdealer reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted July 19, 2016 Wow.PC gamers put a lot more work, effort and money into their system. And for cheaper, considering you need a laptop/computer and want a gaming platform these days. So yeah, SOME are arrogant, maybe or maybe not justifiably, although it's inexcusable to be a d*** about it. Who cares? They know they're stuff, console is plug and play, they deserve a reward equivalent to what they reap. It causes frustration but the stuff that's in that piece of hardware — it's what they did research about and built — with their own hands. Rightfully so they should have bragging rights I think. Again, minus being a d*** about it cause in all honesty their hardware is better. If you go into the PC community, however alien they seem from console players' standpoints, they're a LOT more dedicated to their games. Steam reviews are insightful and in depth. The community itself is a lot more attached and closer knit with each other. No pay to play online crap. Developers are so much more forthcoming and open to people on PC exclusives. Steam Greenlight. And Steam Sales make PSN cry.On the topic of whether or not KHIII should come to PC? A resounding yes in my book. People are getting fed up (myself and friends included) with the console market forcing us to upgrade for the same price as the old hardware we got at launch with promises of greatness (and we get HD remastered ports of games and sequels with overhyped mediocre first party exclusive media and triple A drought). Now with the new Project Scorpio, PS4 Neo (which, hell yeah, you'll NEED to play VR) and all that stuff, people are getting fed up and slowly but surely migrating to PC. Not only is there an ever growing market, but people are loving the highest quality and smoothest and immersive experience possible. SHOULD IT COME TO PC? HELL YEAH!Will it?Probably not. Disney abhors copyright infringement. PC gamers will buy it but SOME WILL ALSO PIRATE TOO. It's much easier to pirate software on PC than on console (not like you still don't have to jump through hoops) but I bet that's the absolute biggest fear of Disney selling anything that isn't ToonTown on PC. I actually think it will, because Disney has an entire category on Steam, they flooded the place, and the market for PC gaming is actually growing more than consoles, as well as it being cheaper for Disney and SE to sell the game on PC than it would be on consoles such as the Xbox One. Not to mention there is an install base already on the PC due to the simple fact that emulation exists. If anything Disney loves the PC, and they will be pushing for KH3 to come out on PC all the more, but all they want right now is to have attention of the console version sort that out, then come out with a PC Version later, getting people to double dip. Double dipping on KH3 will be much easier to do, than FFXV due to the fact there are more hints of FFXV coming to PC than Kingdom Hearts 3. 1 Clouded Sun reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clouded Sun 1,232 Posted July 19, 2016 I actually think it will, because Disney has an entire category on Steam, they flooded the place, and the market for PC gaming is actually growing more than consoles, as well as it being cheaper for Disney and SE to sell the game on PC than it would be on consoles such as the Xbox One. Not to mention there is an install base already on the PC due to the simple fact that emulation exists. If anything Disney loves the PC, and they will be pushing for KH3 to come out on PC all the more, but all they want right now is to have attention of the console version sort that out, then come out with a PC Version later, getting people to double dip. Double dipping on KH3 will be much easier to do, than FFXV due to the fact there are more hints of FFXV coming to PC than Kingdom Hearts 3.Hmmm, those are some things I haven't thought of before. If Steam has an install base for Disney games, that alleviates the worry of Disney's DRM. I guess it can be possible, and like I've said it's very plausible. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted July 19, 2016 Just cause it can be done doesn't mean it will. Yasue had practically nothing to say when they made KHIII multiplat yet, the interviewer asked why 2.8 isn't. It could very well be the same — just sacrificing sales because. That being said, Unreal Engine 4 makes porting stupidly easy, with only minor bug fixes and adjustments. I'm using the tools myself and can atest to that — to pack as a PC game it's simply a click of a button. I don't think it's sacrificing sales I think the reason why he dodged because SE and Disney might have a contract with Sony, It might end up coming to the Xbox One later down the road or the PC like Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster. Also KH 2.8 and KH3 are different beasts entirely. my argument also stems from the fact that it's also on the Xbox One which greatly opens the door for a PC and NX Port Inb4 Casper Formadi! Here I am 1 Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clouded Sun 1,232 Posted July 19, 2016 I don't think it's sacrificing sales I think the reason why he dodged because SE and Disney might have a contract with Sony, It might end up coming to the Xbox One later down the road or the PC like Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster. Also KH 2.8 and KH3 are different beasts entirely. my argument also stems from the fact that it's also on the Xbox One which greatly opens the door for a PC and NX Port Here I am Again very very valid points that are.... hard to refute you might be right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dustin Newton 60 Posted July 19, 2016 It's possible. it won't release on the same day, but if not as an official release, someones going to make an emulator for it. 1 The 13th Kenpachi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clouded Sun 1,232 Posted July 19, 2016 It's possible. it won't release on the same day, but if not as an official release, someones going to make an emulator for it.Wii U emulation is already well into development. Unstable but developing. Since PC and PS4 and Xbox One are rather close in architecture, it'd seem to be much easier to emulate those so it could well be possible. I wonder if dumping PS4 disks will be a hassle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dustin Newton 60 Posted July 19, 2016 Wii U emulation is already well into development. Unstable but developing. Since PC and PS4 and Xbox One are rather close in architecture, it'd seem to be much easier to emulate those so it could well be possible. I wonder if dumping PS4 disks will be a hassle. ones that require the motion sense will be a bit of a hassle, but it shouldn't be that hard to map the touchpad and some of the motion controls to the mouse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clouded Sun 1,232 Posted July 19, 2016 ones that require the motion sense will be a bit of a hassle, but it shouldn't be that hard to map the touchpad and some of the motion controls to the mouseWell they've already got motion emulation with the Dolphin emulator for Wii. I'm sure it's not so different from that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xiro 3,468 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) I honestly don't care about framerate (unless there are major drops) or mods. Then again, I don't have a PS4, but I do have a PC. Then again, it's not some high-end gaming machine or w/e, so it probably wouldn't be any different than the consoles framerate/quality wise, except I'd have to use a keyboard or hook up a controller. ... Yeah, if there is a PC port, it had better have XBox/PS/whatever controller compatibility, because I wouldn't want to play it with a keyboard and mouse. In short, don't really care it's all about the cash grabs feelin throwback to KHIII4WiiU thread Edited July 19, 2016 by Xiro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites