Dagesh Lene 366 Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) Major spoilers for Kingdom Hearts X [chi]: SPOILERS: Click to reveal In the latest update for Kingdom Hearts X [chi], we find out that the man in the black coat is the sixth apprentice, Luxu. However, not only did Nomura hint that the man in the black coat is the Master of Masters in an earlier interview with Famitsu, but Famitsu also recently asked Nomura directly if the man in the black coat is the Master of Masters, and Nomura said that he was! So, either Nomura was leading us astray, or the Master of Masters possessed Luxu! This is the only thing that makes sense to me right now, but what do you guys think? Edited July 7, 2016 by Dagesh Lene Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingdomhe 1,362 Posted July 7, 2016 On 7/7/2016 at 8:52 PM, Dagesh Lene said: Major spoilers for Kingdom Hearts X [chi]: SPOILERS: Click to reveal In the latest update for Kingdom Hearts X [chi], we find out that the man in the black coat is the sixth apprentice, Luxu. However, not only did Nomura hint that the man in the black coat is the Master of Masters in an earlier interview with Famitsu, but Famitsu also recently asked Nomura directly if the man in the black coat is the Master of Masters, and Nomura said that he was! So, either Nomura was leading us astray, or the Master of Masters possessed Luxu! This is the only thing that makes sense to me right now, but what do you guys think? Or there are two guys with black coats? I don't know why everyone is jumping to these conclusions, more than one person has had a black coat in KH and since both of them are somewhat in hiding it would make since that both have these coats. 3 Greg Stewart, PrinceNoctis and khsg reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowKeyblade 219 Posted July 7, 2016 Or perhaps the original MoM passed down his will to Luxu, thus becoming the new "Master of Masters." So what Nomura said is true, from a certain point of view. I seriously doubt he's straight up lying, that's for sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moochieh32 676 Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) On 7/7/2016 at 9:13 PM, ShadowKeyblade said: Or perhaps the original MoM passed down his will to Luxu, thus becoming the new "Master of Masters." So what Nomura said is true, from a certain point of view. I seriously doubt he's straight up lying, that's for sure.So now we can assume MoM is evil? Edited July 7, 2016 by Moochieh32 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowKeyblade 219 Posted July 7, 2016 On 7/7/2016 at 9:23 PM, Moochieh32 said: So now we can assume MoM is evil? Depends on the motive to be honest. It could be morally grey, but most likely he wanted access to Kingdom Hearts' power. So yeah, he's probably evil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dagesh Lene 366 Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) On 7/7/2016 at 8:59 PM, Kingdomhe said: Or there are two guys with black coats? I don't know why everyone is jumping to these conclusions, more than one person has had a black coat in KH and since both of them are somewhat in hiding it would make since that both have these coats. That is definitely a possibility. However, I personally don't think that there are more than one, because we never got any sort of hint at all that there are more than one. But you could be right. On 7/7/2016 at 9:13 PM, ShadowKeyblade said: Or perhaps the original MoM passed down his will to Luxu, thus becoming the new "Master of Masters." So what Nomura said is true, from a certain point of view. I seriously doubt he's straight up lying, that's for sure. That is another possibility! I don't think that Nomura was lying either. I just put down an extreme other explanation, because that's the only other explanation I could think of at the time. On 7/7/2016 at 9:23 PM, Moochieh32 said: So now we can assume MoM is evil? Major spoilers for Kingdom Hearts X [chi]: SPOILERS: Click to reveal It seems that way, yes. The update seems to say that the lost page reveals that the Master of Masters planned everything to happen this way. Edited July 7, 2016 by Dagesh Lene Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dustin Newton 60 Posted July 7, 2016 i like (not really) how every one assumes that there is only one black coat. When it really wouldn't be that hard to make another one (it's also smart to make another one). What if it's just what the master wanted his apprentices to wear? Now that 5 of them are foretellers, they don't have to wear it. Yeah it's possible that 6th took over the MoM, but the MoM doing it to the last apprentice is stretching it pretty far given that he cares for his students. Essentially wiping one from existence doesn't quite fit. 1 Kingdomhe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dagesh Lene 366 Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) On 7/7/2016 at 9:42 PM, Dustin Newton said: i like (not really) how every one assumes that there is only one black coat. When it really wouldn't be that hard to make another one (it's also smart to make another one). What if it's just what the master wanted his apprentices to wear? Now that 5 of them are foretellers, they don't have to wear it. While it is a definite possibility that there is more than one person in a black coat, we have gotten no hints whatsoever to there being more than one. Therefore, I personally do not think that there is. However, I could be wrong. On 7/7/2016 at 9:42 PM, Dustin Newton said: Yeah it's possible that 6th took over the MoM, but the MoM doing it to the last apprentice is stretching it pretty far given that he cares for his students. Essentially wiping one from existence doesn't quite fit. Major spoilers for Kingdom Hearts X [chi]: SPOILERS: Click to reveal I don't think that we are ever told that the Master of Masters cares for his students, are we? If I am mistaken, please tell me. However, even if we were told that, in the latest update, it seemed to imply that the lost page revealed that the Master of Masters wanted all of this to happen, even though the Foretellers thought that he wanted them to stop it all from happening. So, as of right now, it seems to me that the Master of Masters is the main villain of the game, and it doesn't seem like too far of a stretch to me that the Master of Masters would possess Luxu, especially since Luxu apparently vanished around the same time that the Master of Masters did. Edited July 7, 2016 by Dagesh Lene Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hallowseve 143 Posted July 8, 2016 I originally believed two people wore the black coats, then I was convinced otherwise, and now I will return and firmly stick with the "two coats" belief. 1 Kingdomhe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingdomhe 1,362 Posted July 8, 2016 On 7/7/2016 at 9:31 PM, Dagesh Lene said: That is definitely a possibility. However, I personally don't think that there are more than one, because we never got any sort of hint at all that there are more than one. But you could be right. That is another possibility! I don't think that Nomura was lying either. I just put down an extreme other explanation, because that's the only other explanation I could think of at the time. Major spoilers for Kingdom Hearts X [chi]: SPOILERS: Click to reveal It seems that way, yes. The update seems to say that the lost page reveals that the Master of Masters planned everything to happen this way. On 7/7/2016 at 9:13 PM, ShadowKeyblade said: Or perhaps the original MoM passed down his will to Luxu, thus becoming the new "Master of Masters." So what Nomura said is true, from a certain point of view. I seriously doubt he's straight up lying, that's for sure. On 7/7/2016 at 9:23 PM, Moochieh32 said: So now we can assume MoM is evil? On 7/7/2016 at 9:42 PM, Dustin Newton said: i like (not really) how every one assumes that there is only one black coat. When it really wouldn't be that hard to make another one (it's also smart to make another one). What if it's just what the master wanted his apprentices to wear? Now that 5 of them are foretellers, they don't have to wear it. Yeah it's possible that 6th took over the MoM, but the MoM doing it to the last apprentice is stretching it pretty far given that he cares for his students. Essentially wiping one from existence doesn't quite fit. On 7/8/2016 at 2:04 AM, Hallowseve said: I originally believed two people wore the black coats, then I was convinced otherwise, and now I will return and firmly stick with the "two coats" belief. No there are two people in coats 1 Moochieh32 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hallowseve 143 Posted July 8, 2016 My post was referring to the 2.8 trailer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dagesh Lene 366 Posted July 8, 2016 On 7/8/2016 at 3:55 PM, Kingdomhe said: No there are two people in coats Good catch! 1 Kingdomhe reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kupo 31 Posted July 8, 2016 Could it be possible that the one with the square zipper is Young Xehanort? He can time travel after all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moochieh32 676 Posted July 9, 2016 On 7/8/2016 at 3:55 PM, Kingdomhe said: No there are two people in coats One on the right is definitely Luxu, the 6th Foreteller (Pretends to be MoM) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomeKHFan 63 Posted July 9, 2016 Am I the only one who see's the Master of Masters being the potential main antagonist after the Xehanort saga? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zay 65 Posted July 10, 2016 On 7/9/2016 at 10:52 PM, SomeKHFan said: Am I the only one who see's the Master of Masters being the potential main antagonist after the Xehanort saga? Definitely not. I really think that there's a lot of mystery in regards to the Master of Masters for that very reason. I imagine that if there isn't much more information divulged within X, Unchained X, or Kingdom Hearts III? Then yeah, he's probably the next big bad for the series. It's a little too early to tell, though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henne 150 Posted July 10, 2016 How about this: Neither Luxu nor the MoM are evil but the keyblade they(?) and Xehanort use posesses an "evil" will. After all, it is the oldest keyblade for some reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ventus-Skuld-Ephemera4Ever 3 Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) On 7/9/2016 at 10:52 PM, SomeKHFan said: Am I the only one who see's the Master of Masters being the potential main antagonist after the Xehanort saga? Or the main antagonist before the Xehanort saga , who knows? On 7/9/2016 at 9:17 AM, Moochieh32 said: One on the right is definitely Luxu, the 6th Foreteller (Pretends to be MoM) No, i don't think Luxu pretends to be MoM. Ava would call him MoM if he told her he wasn't Luxu ? On 7/8/2016 at 11:13 PM, I Am Kupo said: Could it be possible that the one with the square zipper is Young Xehanort? He can time travel after all. Nope because "Why would he do another Keyblade war after seeing the first?"... that's the question! Edit : Except if he is a psychopath? Or because he think it's fun!(PSYCHOPATH! ) Okay, it's stupid "Xehanort want to see what happen after a Keyblade War." in short. Soooooo... Why did you think it's him again? Edited July 10, 2016 by Ventus-Skuld-Ephemera4Ever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moochieh32 676 Posted July 10, 2016 On 7/10/2016 at 2:59 PM, Ventus-Skuld-Ephemera4Ever said: Or the main antagonist before the Xehanort saga , who knows? No, i don't think Luxu pretends to be MoM. Ava would call him MoM if he told her he wasn't Luxu ? Nope because "Why would he do another Keyblade war after seeing the first?"... that's the question! Edit : Except if he is a psychopath? Or because he think it's fun!(PSYCHOPATH! )Okay, it's stupid "Xehanort want to see what happen after a Keyblade War." in short. Soooooo... Why did you think it's him again? She probably found out eventually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kupo 31 Posted July 11, 2016 On 7/10/2016 at 2:59 PM, Ventus-Skuld-Ephemera4Ever said: Nope because "Why would he do another Keyblade war after seeing the first?"... that's the question! Edit : Except if he is a psychopath? Or because he think it's fun!(PSYCHOPATH! )Okay, it's stupid "Xehanort want to see what happen after a Keyblade War." in short. Soooooo... Why did you think it's him again? Idk just a thought, when I posted it I didn't really put much thought of a reason why besides wanting to know how or why it happened. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
