matteso586 115 Posted June 28, 2016 With the Disney worlds announced for KHIII so far, I have some theories about how Sora will get further character development. Olympus Coliseum: The fact that he rarely tries to understand things for himself. Sora would call himself a big idiot for not understanding that he's the one who reopened the Underdome. If he finds out that is. Kingdom of Corona: We all remember what Rapunzel's personality was like in Tangled. So she will remind Sora of how naive he's been. San Fransokyo: Vengeance is one of the major themes of Big Hero 6. And the game is telling a post-movie story of it. If Sora learns about Hiro's backstory, loss, and what he went through, he'll probably become a teeny tiny bit more assertive. Sora's tendency to act like he's never been wronged proves why. Like Kairi being kidnapped by a certain red haired Nobody. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Komali 594 Posted June 28, 2016 I watched some KH2 scenes a minute ago and Sora really needs to be like in KH2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) 1. Why is this needed? Sora doesn't need to understand anything beyond what he already knows. What, that he made a mistake? Okay, whatever, the mistake was rectified, Hades was defeated, and if he comes back again for III, Sora can just defeat him again. 2. Rapunzel's problem wasn't that she was naive, it was that she allowed herself to be held back without giving her a chance to express herself fully. Yes, the "outside world" is dangerous, but the point is that she needed to learn that by experiencing it on her own instead of staying in one place. Sora obviously doesn't have this problem. 3. Again, why is this needed? Sora's ability to forgive is part of what makes him unique. Was he supposed to be mad and throw a tantrum at Lea for what he did with Kairi? I'm sure the whole "let me explode myself to save you" thing might have cleared up that misnomer, especially now that he has Roxas's memories and might be able to piece together Lea's intentions more clearly now. Edited June 28, 2016 by Firaga Sensei 6 KHUndertaleFan25, Robbie the Wise, Handsome_the_Wise and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KHUndertaleFan25 2,858 Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Sora is fine the way he is. And I agree with Firaga Sensei. In my personal opinion, i think Sora will be okay for now. Edited June 28, 2016 by KHUndertaleFan25 2 Dagesh Lene and Felixx reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 5,715 Posted June 28, 2016 San Fransokyo: Vengeance is one of the major themes of Big Hero 6. And the game is telling a post-movie story of it. If Sora learns about Hiro's backstory, loss, and what he went through, he'll probably become a teeny tiny bit more assertive. Sora's tendency to act like he's never been wronged proves why. Like Kairi being kidnapped by a certain red haired Nobody. The theme of Big Hero 6 is that vengeance gets you no where, and to lose yourself in it will only lead to despair. If anything, Sora's teachings of forgiveness and recognizing the humanity in even his enemies is more at play with what happens in the film. 5 KHUndertaleFan25, Robbie the Wise, Dagesh Lene and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dagesh Lene 366 Posted June 28, 2016 While we are getting a more mature Sora, that doesn't mean that he will have a complete change of character. Sora's innocence and uncorrupted heart are part of what makes him such a unique character compared to all of the others. Riku was even told this in Dream Drop Distance. In fact, it is because of this that he has so many connections to so many people. It is also the reason why so many characters may be able to be saved, which it sounds like will be a huge part of Kingdom Hearts III. Because of all of this, I have a feeling that Sora will still be the same guy he has always been. If I had to guess, I would say that the only way that we will see him change is that he will just take things a little more seriously. 2 KHUndertaleFan25 and Zay reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dustin Newton 60 Posted June 28, 2016 None of these encounters would really help Sora grow. Him learning the truth of the Underdrome would literally change nothing, especially since it played a part in the gods recognizing him as a hero. Sora being inexperienced and innocent wont change because he meets some one who is the same way, that just doesn't make sense. Sora is pretty assertive as it is, but he is also forgiving to people who deserve it. Axel apologized and made up for his kidnapping Kairi incident, so that was a horrible example. 2 KHUndertaleFan25 and Firaga reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Javelin434 3,164 Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) HOW ABOUT SOME ROMANTIC DEVELOPMENT WITH KAIRI FOR CRYING OUT LOUD?!!?!?! LIKE C'MON SORA YOU DUMDUM Edited June 28, 2016 by Javelin434 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) HOW ABOUT SOME ROMANTIC DEVELOPMENT WITH KAIRI FOR CRYING OUT LOUD?!!?!?! LIKE C'MON SORA YOU DUMDUM That's not really "development" development for his character, it's just development for shipping fuel. ._. Edited June 28, 2016 by Firaga Sensei Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Javelin434 3,164 Posted June 28, 2016 That's not really "development" development for his character, it's just development for shipping fuel. ._.Well relationship developments are still an aspect of character development and should not be ignored Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Well relationship developments are still an aspect of character development and should not be ignored This isn't a series where relationship developments matter all that much, at least not ones that are romantic. Edited June 28, 2016 by Firaga Sensei Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted June 28, 2016 1. Unnecessary 2. Unnecessary 3. Even less necessary. This is all just trying to artificially evolve Sora into a character he isn't, in a way that isn't too befitting of him. Most of Sora's traits have to do with his selfless helpful personality and his straightforward way of thinking. He's not being "stupid" when he unlocks the Underdrome, he's trying to help Meg. Just because he was unlocking the way to Meg without even knowing something that HE WOULD NEVER HAVE KNOWN OTHERWISE BECAUSE NO ONE HAS EVEN TOLD HIM THAT THE UNDERDROME EXISTS does not make him an idiot. He's only slightly dim in the sense that he didn't put two and two together after Auron told him that someone unlocked the Underdrome, but even that is a bit of a stretch, since again no one told him anything about the Underdrome beforehand, let alone what it's lock looked like. Sora does not need to be painfully aware or ashamed of how "naive" he is. A tiny bit of self-reflection is fine, characters can be self-conscious to some extent, but Sora isn't the type of character to feel weighed down by his own shortcomings. The only strife he's ever felt and expressed is towards how he keeps getting separated from his friends, and occasionally when a situation is built up to be futile, only just before he finds the determination he needs to press on anyway. The fact is, Sora is naive do to his more sincere childlike nature, and that's okay. All things considered, he's not even that naive, he's still smart enough to know that shifty looking bad guys are actually bad guys. The only thing that could realistically be considered an actual problem is the fact that he tends to let his emotions rule his decisions most of the time. Most of the time when he does this it turns out fine and he has the strength to back it up, but then there are times like DDD where that kind of response is predicted and used against him. It frustrates me how people keep trying to force logical thinking on Sora when he is not at his core a very logical person. Riku is the more logical among the two, if Riku was the one making irrational decisions based on his emotions in the wrong way like he did in KH1, THEN you would have a real reason to try and force logic onto a character. But with Sora? If you haven't caught on yet that he's the emotional half of the duo, then you've got some serious re-observation to do. And his "needing to be more assertive"? Now you're REALLY missing the point of the character. Sora might hold grudges against bad guys who repeatedly try to do bad things to good people for bad reasons, but he is NOT a vengeful type, nor does he need to be. In KH2 he might have gotten emotional and enraged by the lengths Org. XIII went to to achieve their goal and how he was being kept from his friends, but he was never out for blood or anything. He was just falling into the negative side of his main character trait, getting caught up in his emotions. At no point does he ever state that "I'm going to make you pay" or "I'll get you for what you've done to me" or anything BS like that. He only fights because he recognizes the hurt and suffering they have caused not just to him but to many others and how they're threatening to destroy everything else. And before you bring up how all of that anger he displayed in KH2 should lead him towards a path of vengeance, let me point out that there is a clear difference between being a human being and getting emotionally worked up and aggressive when someone is directly antagonizing you, and being a bloodthirsty psycho who wants to take something from those who wronged him for retribution. And yes, I realize you used the term "assertive", but the way you used it would suggest that Sora would want to seek vengeance, despite the fact that A) He's already shown that he has an assertive side in every game he is in so there's no point for him to become "more assertive", and B) The whole theme of BH6 is that vengeance ultimately will get you nothing. Sora is not someone that needs to be taught that lesson nor does he need to fall into the opposite. And let's just put the whole Axel kidnapping Kairi thing to rest with this one single fact: the dude freaking blew himself up to clear Sora a path to rescue Kairi. He explained his reasons for even going after Kairi, admitted his feelings about his friendship with Roxas, and sacrificed himself so that Sora could be with his friends. Add that and becoming fully aware of Roxas and the things he went through and he was given more than enough reason to forgive Axel for the things he had done in the past that he could remember. You know, aside from the fact that Sora is a forgiving person and not a spiteful blowhard. Character development is fine for any character, but only where it is actually due. The idea isn't to try and round out Sora more so that he becomes less flawed, it's to expand on his strengths, acknowledge his weaknesses, touch upon those weaknesses a little, but not enough to make the character so radically different from what they really are. If Sora is really in need of character development in KH3, it won't be handled like that. It'll be done in a much more sensible way that still honors who he is without trying to erase parts of his personality that literally define who he is. Or short version: what Firaga Sensei said. 7 Handsome_the_Wise, Robbie the Wise, KHUndertaleFan25 and 4 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Felixx 6,646 Posted June 28, 2016 Sora's perfect the way he is in my opinion. Wouldn't want him to change As for your points I agree with Firaga Sensei here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matteso586 115 Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) 3. Again, why is this needed? Sora's ability to forgive is part of what makes him unique. Was he supposed to be mad and throw a tantrum at Lea for what he did with Kairi? I'm sure the whole "let me explode myself to save you" thing might have cleared up that misnomer, especially now that he has Roxas's memories and might be able to piece together Lea's intentions more clearly now. Maybe. But Kairi will most likely be mad at Lea. And maybe mad at Sora and Riku for trusting him. And how do you know that wasn't Roxas talking? Edited June 28, 2016 by matteso586 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScorpioGirl1987 17 Posted June 28, 2016 It's not in Kairi's nature to be cold and unforgiving. Sure, she'd freak out initially, but then Sora and Riku would explain the situation to her (and how Axel/Lea saved Sora twice), then she'll forgive Lea and thank him for saving her friend (and maybe hug him in gratitude). 3 Zay, Firaga and Handsome_the_Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DemyxIsBest 367 Posted June 28, 2016 Give him a beard because puberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted June 28, 2016 Maybe. But Kairi will most likely be mad at Lea. And maybe mad at Sora and Riku for trusting him. And how do you know that wasn't Roxas talking? It's not in Kairi's nature to be cold and unforgiving. Sure, she'd freak out initially, but then Sora and Riku would explain the situation to her (and how Axel/Lea saved Sora twice), then she'll forgive Lea and thank him for saving her friend (and maybe hug him in gratitude). Basically this. Also, Roxas was still mostly cut off from Sora at that point, he wouldn't have a direct influence in his decisions. He only resurged after Lea's death. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matteso586 115 Posted June 28, 2016 It's not in Kairi's nature to be cold and unforgiving. Sure, she'd freak out initially, but then Sora and Riku would explain the situation to her (and how Axel/Lea saved Sora twice), then she'll forgive Lea and thank him for saving her friend (and maybe hug him in gratitude). Facts don't change. And face it, Kairi's more mature than the two boys... personality wise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted June 28, 2016 Facts don't change. And face it, Kairi's more mature than the two boys... personality wise. That still isn't grounds for her to be uncharacteristically cold. 2 Handsome_the_Wise and Zay reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites