Britain are Leaving The EU!

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

It's only natural to panic, if you lived here you'd fall into panic too. It's easy for you to say don't panic since you don't live here so it won't affect you that much.

 

The UK is our friend and ally. It does affect us..Panic brings about mistakes and bad judgement. But please commence. 

[The 13th Kenpachi 4,279]

The UK is our friend and ally. It does affect us..Panic brings about mistakes and bad judgement. But please commence. 

You can't blame us for being scared.

 

 

 

I was going to say that^, but then I calmed down a little. You are probably right. fear is bad.

Edited June 24, 2016 by Shinobi Palace

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

You can't blame us for being scared.

 

I'm telling you to be smart about it- it's natural to be afraid of the unknown but now is the time to think and not just react.

[The 13th Kenpachi 4,279]

I'm telling you to be smart about it- it's natural to be afraid of the unknown but now is the time to think and not just react.

I crossed it out sensei!

 

 

but you are right.

[FlipMode 141]

I'm not happy about it as I mentioned in the other thread. It was amazing to see just how quickly both parties went back on their promises though. Only about an hour or so after the final vote count and Cameron dropped out despite promising he would immediately file the Brexit order (effectively this delays the whole two year process by months since he's left it up to his successor) and the leader of the Leave campaign saying "Yeahhhh so about that £350 million to the NHS uhhh here's the thing about that...."

Both parties lied after only an hour of winning / losing. That is a new record on lying.

 

It is what it is. I'm not pleased at all but right now all I have left is hope that this won't be the worst thing ever... Not looking good so far.

It was hilarious to see "What happens if we leave EU?" get a 300% increase in searches on Goolge AFTER the voting. Probably should have researched that and THEN decided, lads.

[VisitJoan 2,713]

The UK is our friend and ally. It does affect us..Panic brings about mistakes and bad judgement. But please commence. 

 

Let's not forget stock markets all over the world have tanked.  Except for gold, but that's gold.  In a world where we're connected with a single click of a button, something like this will affect everyone.

[Wolf on the Run 391]

All I can say is, I'm proud of my areas for voting high levels of remain.The pound is at an all time low,Ireland wants to reunify with IrelandAnd Scotland wants to go independent againOh, and so does London.It's hard to get excited about this, when EVERYTHING we do when we go out of our own borders will be so much harder.It's even harder to get behind a decision made mostly by people whose only reason to vote leave was an ill informed view on immigration. :/Also, 48% voted remain. This is not a massive win. If we do leave these people have to be taken into account because that is practically half the population!This is not going to be pretty

for the record most of Ireland could really careless about the Republic and the North unifying anymore even if we did manage it which I myself highly doubt theirs to much hatred between certain groups and besides the counties close to the border most other counties have really stopped caring and don't want to get involved well that's what it feels like from we're I'm seated anyway Galway for one really doesn't feel like adding oil to any fires already burning

[Nero Kunivas 3,046]

I'm telling you to be smart about it- it's natural to be afraid of the unknown but now is the time to think and not just react.

The unknown terrifies me more than I care to admit...and yet, I have found it in myself to take a moment to breathe and look at this properly.

 

It was a Referendum after all, the decision IS left up to Parliament who can very well say "No, we're not leaving. Sorry." which is more likely than it appears due to the mere notion of leaving causing a small Stock Market Crash and the Pound to drop sharply in value.

 

And hey, if we do end up leaving, it might not be a complete disaster nor will it be a Racist/Fascist Haven. Plus, Boris would have to be the Conservative Party Leader in order to be Prime Minister, though I still think that David jumping ship in a few months may not be the wisest decision.

 

In the end, I have made the effort to calm down for my sake, for your sake, for my countries sake and for the sake of anyone else affected like America.

 

tl;dr: *Whew* All right, it's not so bad.

[tysonrss 38]

I don't know if this is satire or not, but I'm gonna assume no because my trust in people has been diminished greatly since 3 am this morning. Firstly, and I've been hearing this a lot. Britain is not gonna be independent because there's no one to be independent from. This isn't 1947 when India became independent FROM Britain, we are leaving a union where everyone is equal, and no one nation state has power over the other. So you're not getting independent from anyone. Least of all Europe."breaking free from the shackles of the bankers" lol that's cute, you think the UK isn't being controlled by a bunch of bankers anyway! Aww. Newsflash, it is. The EU notwithstanding, we have a big problem with taxing and regulating bankers anyway. In fact the EU probably helps us more with this issue than we do ourselves. "they're just misinformed" Hmm, I think we know who is misinformed mate.

But you see, by leaving the EU, Britain is declaring independence from control of the globalists. Britain deserves the right to be in control of who it's letting into its borders. With the rise of migrants from the Middle East you clearly see more attacks going on, they're on the rise. Yet when you point out these issues you're somehow a conspiracy theorist or "racist". Anyone that speaks against the status quo that is. That is why you are misinformed. Break free from your liberal way of thinking. This world doesn't work wonders around beautiful rainbows and unicorns. The world is a messed up place and people need to start utilizing some form f common sense. Sure, you're gonna have economical issues because of this but that's to be expected. And that is probably the main reason why people didn't want this to happen. But it will get better and once it does, people will see how beneficial it was.Same with America. Once it breaks free of control from the federal reserve were bound to have more economical issues then we have now. But that's what happens when you get out of a system that's been in place for decades. The system this world works around needs to be heavily changed. Power needs to be put back into the hands of the people, not the government. I was watching the news earlier and was getting pissed off of how they were fear mongering, claiming that because Britain chose to leave the EU that were to suffer with our pensions and other situations involved with the economy. Pure bullshit if I've seen it. That's why people are afraid of change. Because of the fear tactics used to control your subconscious. I hope the other nations that are backing out of the EU becomes a reality as well. We can no longer stand by and watch these nations get tore apart from the inside just because people believe their liberal views will benefit everyone. That is proposterous. And no, that system you claim that gives everyone equal rights is nothing more than a lie. Migrants get everything handed to them for free. Free schooling, free money, rent free places. While the countries turn its back on its own native citizens. There is something vastly wrong with this picture. Talk about equality, why don't everyone get free everything instead of a certain group who wasn't natively born into the countries they're flooding in to begin with. And now I wait, I've stirred up quite the debate. And now I can't wait to be called a conspiratorial racist. ???

[Guest]

I find it insulting that 16 and 17 year old British people did not have the opportunity to vote for this, yet, 16 and 17 year old Scottish people voted to remain in the United Kingdom. Why is my country decaying before my eyes...

[2 quid is good 2,209]

But you see, by leaving the EU, Britain is declaring independence from control of the globalists. Britain deserves the right to be in control of who it's letting into its borders. With the rise of migrants from the Middle East you clearly see more attacks going on, they're on the rise. Yet when you point out these issues you're somehow a conspiracy theorist or "racist". Anyone that speaks against the status quo that is. That is why you are misinformed. Break free from your liberal way of thinking. This world doesn't work wonders around beautiful rainbows and unicorns. The world is a messed up place and people need to start utilizing some form f common sense. Sure, you're gonna have economical issues because of this but that's to be expected. And that is probably the main reason why people didn't want this to happen. But it will get better and once it does, people will see how beneficial it was.

Same with America. Once it breaks free of control from the federal reserve were bound to have more economical issues then we have now. But that's what happens when you get out of a system that's been in place for decades. The system this world works around needs to be heavily changed. Power needs to be put back into the hands of the people, not the government. I was watching the news earlier and was getting pissed off of how they were fear mongering, claiming that because Britain chose to leave the EU that were to suffer with our pensions and other situations involved with the economy. Pure bullshit if I've seen it. That's why people are afraid of change. Because of the fear tactics used to control your subconscious.

I hope the other nations that are backing out of the EU becomes a reality as well. We can no longer stand by and watch these nations get tore apart from the inside just because people believe their liberal views will benefit everyone. That is proposterous. And no, that system you claim that gives everyone equal rights is nothing more than a lie. Migrants get everything handed to them for free. Free schooling, free money, rent free places. While the countries turn its back on its own native citizens. There is something vastly wrong with this picture. Talk about equality, why don't everyone get free everything instead of a certain group who wasn't natively born into the countries they're flooding in to begin with.

And now I wait, I've stirred up quite the debate. And now I can't wait to be called a conspiratorial racist.

Your entire argument can be solved quite simply. We have *complete* control of our borders, in fact the vast majority of migration is non-eu. But please by all means, carry on playing the immigration card.

 

We just choose not to do anything with it, and we could easily negotiate an immigration deal with the EU that could see the level go down, but the truth? Most people who go on and on about how immigrants get everything handed to them on a plate and say how they're taking our jobs and houses, are just xenophobic and are using this as an excuse to make the country "British" come off it.

 

Come back to me in ten years when we're still a shithole and there's not an immigrant in sight. I'd like to see who you blame then.

 

My grandfather came to this country in the 60's, back when Britain was begging people from the former colonies to come over. He was a very well educated man, but he decided to come over because he thought he would be able to have a better quality of life.

 

He became a bus driver, and endured countless racist abuse from ordinary people to the higher echelons of the government. Unfortunately this was normal. He had to work hard to earn this for his family, and he certainly wasn't handed things on a plate.

 

My dad and his brothers and sisters all came over in the late 80's, and it was supplied to be a better quality of life for them. Maybe the money was more, but I wonder if it was worth it for being beaten up everyday, being gobbed on, being called a wog or a paki. And it's most definitely had a lasting psychological effect on him, whether he acknowledges or not.

 

He's had a massive upwards struggle just so he could provide for his family, we hardly get any benefits, and he's too damn proud to ever apply for free school meals for me. The small amount we did get was slashed when the tories came to power.

 

You don't get to denounce all of these people and their stories because you have a very limited view of the world.

[The 13th Kenpachi 4,279]

But you see, by leaving the EU, Britain is declaring independence from control of the globalists. Britain deserves the right to be in control of who it's letting into its borders. With the rise of migrants from the Middle East you clearly see more attacks going on, they're on the rise. Yet when you point out these issues you're somehow a conspiracy theorist or "racist". Anyone that speaks against the status quo that is. That is why you are misinformed. Break free from your liberal way of thinking. This world doesn't work wonders around beautiful rainbows and unicorns. The world is a messed up place and people need to start utilizing some form f common sense. Sure, you're gonna have economical issues because of this but that's to be expected. And that is probably the main reason why people didn't want this to happen. But it will get better and once it does, people will see how beneficial it was.

 

Same with America. Once it breaks free of control from the federal reserve were bound to have more economical issues then we have now. But that's what happens when you get out of a system that's been in place for decades. The system this world works around needs to be heavily changed. Power needs to be put back into the hands of the people, not the government. I was watching the news earlier and was getting pissed off of how they were fear mongering, claiming that because Britain chose to leave the EU that were to suffer with our pensions and other situations involved with the economy. Pure bullshit if I've seen it. That's why people are afraid of change. Because of the fear tactics used to control your subconscious.

 

I hope the other nations that are backing out of the EU becomes a reality as well. We can no longer stand by and watch these nations get tore apart from the inside just because people believe their liberal views will benefit everyone. That is proposterous. And no, that system you claim that gives everyone equal rights is nothing more than a lie. Migrants get everything handed to them for free. Free schooling, free money, rent free places. While the countries turn its back on its own native citizens. There is something vastly wrong with this picture. Talk about equality, why don't everyone get free everything instead of a certain group who wasn't natively born into the countries they're flooding in to begin with.

 

And now I wait, I've stirred up quite the debate. And now I can't wait to be called a conspiratorial racist.

Migrants get everything handed to them for free? That's an unfair generalisation man.

 

 

My grandparents were refugees from Uganda, they fled after being told to get out by a racist dictator named Idaya Meen (No clue how to spell his name). They worked in Wales for pennies! PENNIES in a factory, do you still honestly think migrants get things handed to them?

 

Don't generalise a group of people, I find that to be unfair.

 

My father came here at 13 in the mid 1970s, he went to school and went from job to job because he wasn't the smartest. Since 1987, my father has woken up at 4am, stacked shelves, drove for hours to the city to get supplies for his shops, filled up his van with tons of supplies and drove back, only to unload it all. He even did all of this whilst running a pizza place, making pizzas and delivering them until 11pm in the night. He's never had anything handed to him.

 

My father was dead broke, the christmas my eldest sister was born he only had £5 to spend on her. You shouldn't belittle the struggles of someone just because they are a migrant, that's unfair.

 

I hope the other nations that are backing out of the EU becomes a reality as well. We can no longer stand by and watch these nations get tore apart from the inside just because people believe their liberal views will benefit everyone. That is proposterous. And no, that system you claim that gives everyone equal rights is nothing more than a lie. Migrants get everything handed to them for free. Free schooling, free money, rent free places. While the countries turn its back on its own native citizens. There is something vastly wrong with this picture. Talk about equality, why don't everyone get free everything instead of a certain group who wasn't natively born into the countries they're flooding in to begin with

 

 

Does the UK have a big name on it that says "This belongs to those who were born here!"?

 

 Their homes have been destroyed by our air forces, their families killed by Islamic terrorists and by drone attacks. How can you deny them of a place to live? Yes, a single country cannot take in every single person but we have to take a good amount in.

 

Idc,  if my children have to live with a tiny bit less just so those Syrian kids can lead good lives, then I don't care.

 

Migrants get everything handed to them yet British children are walking around with iPhones and have Xbox Ones and PS4's and Nike Clothing and fancy watches.

 

 

 Migrants are typically our doctors and guess what?

 

Being a doctor is one of the hardest jobs to get since it requires a lot of work.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Let's be careful how you debate your views here guys. No personal attacks and let's keep this civil. Posts had to be deleted and edited here on both sides of the fence. Let's discuss this subject with maturity. Thanks!

[Dave 5,715]

So, if I understand this correctly...

 

Britain is concerned with people not native to its country coming over, using its resources, bringing different cultural values, and there's a concern about dividends not being in favor of those who were there first.

 

There's an irony in all of this that is not particularly difficult to spot.

[Lady Aleister 1,677]

All I can say is, I'm proud of my areas for voting high levels of remain.The pound is at an all time low,Ireland wants to reunify with IrelandAnd Scotland wants to go independent againOh, and so does London.It's hard to get excited about this, when EVERYTHING we do when we go out of our own borders will be so much harder.It's even harder to get behind a decision made mostly by people whose only reason to vote leave was an ill informed view on immigration. :/Also, 48% voted remain. This is not a massive win. If we do leave these people have to be taken into account because that is practically half the population!This is not going to be pretty

 

It's honestly not a thing to be excited about. 

One of the main reasons why it had to happen is because of Terrorist Attacks. 

 

2 quid is very right about this post because it will have effects on the economy of all countries, America is taking a large toll on it already. 

Stocks are down a crazy number right now due to this, and even if people say "Oh I don't care about stocks", you really should, because it has an effect on all of us. 

Stocks are the reason why The Great Recession happened, and I wont be surprised if there is a recession in Europe following this. 

Edited June 24, 2016 by Madam Ciel Nekohive

[2 quid is good 2,209]

So, if I understand this correctly...

 

Britain is concerned with people not native to its country coming over, using its resources, bringing different cultural values, and there's a concern about dividends not being in favor of those who were there first.

 

There's an irony in all of this that is not particularly difficult to spot.

Being of Pakistani heritage, trust me, it didn't go unnoticed

It's honestly not a thing to be excited about. 

One of the main reasons why it had to happen is because of Terrorist Attacks. 

 

2 quid is very right about this post because it will have effects on the economy of all countries, America is taking a large toll on it already. 

Stocks are down a crazy number right now due to this, and even if people say "Oh I don't care about stocks", you really should, because it has an effect on all of us. 

Stocks are the reason why The Great Recession happened, and I wont be surprised if there is a recession in Europe following this.

 

Thanks for that, unfortunately quota for both of you. I don't agree that this had to happen, terrorist attacks aren't caused by EU immigration, and I don't remember much being said on terrorism which is surprising really

Let's be careful how you debate your views here guys. No personal attacks and let's keep this civil. Posts had to be deleted and edited here on both sides of the fence. Let's discuss this subject with maturity. Thanks!

Sorry about this. There's a strange and difficult to describe atmosphere around here right now though. You'd have to be here to experience it.

 

I apologise for anything I may have said, but emotions are running high everywhere, I've been awake from 2am till 6pm (I had a nap after that. And before that I was asleep from 11pm till 2am. Combined with the desperate feeling, it's a perfect storm.

 

*sighs* Well, what's gonna happen now?

[Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) 3,859]

I've read most of this thread, but it's too massive, sorry if I missed out anything

 

Anyways, from what I've read I agree with those saying that Britain should've stayed, especially 2 quid.

 

I didn't want to state my opinion too soon since I've missed a lot of information recently, but now I think it's fair for me to say that UK should've stayed. Let's be honest, UK was supported by the EU and it helpped them to stay strong, now they're alone, not quite as United, as people said, not even among themselves.

 

Of course, being independent has its pros, but it has far more cons, at least from what we can see now. You never know, maybe Britain manages to do something to get even stronger now that it's independent, there's nothing stopping them, in exchange of not having support from the EU that is.

 

From the looks of it, Britain is going downhill, and it will get worse in the long run unless something is done. Maybe they'll just manage to get support from another community or country (maybe US? You never know) and manages to get through this.

 

 

If things are done properly, Britain should have quite a bad time now, but sooner or later they should be able to put themselves together and keep going, maybe even better than before.

 

 

 

I support Britain staying, but since they're most likely leaving at this point, we might as well just stay positive and look at the few positive outcomes this decision could have.

[Weedanort 8,786]

This is kinda bad for Portugal as well, mainly because of our Port Wine exportations

 

Don't know much about brittish people coming here for vacations, we might get more money from that

[FlipMode 141]

Y'know at first I was really annoyed that Leave won. But now I just hope and think we should all unite and work together to make sure that this is as positive for as many people, UK or otherwise as it possible can be.

We have a freedom now, let's use that freedom to create a better voting system in the country which will be much fairer and will hopefully crack down on all the lying. Let's use the extra £238 million a week to make the country a better place to live for those who are struggling. And use our new freedom to create trading opportunities with countries and make things as good as they can be. A leader leads by example.

 

We are in this now. And all this hating on people who have a different opinion to you, or calling for a 2nd referendum is not the way forward. We've survived worse tha just leaving the EU, if we all pitch in together then we could turn this into a positive thing even though it may not be what we voted for.

If you want a democracy then you have to be prepared to not always get your way when the public get to vote. Just ask Scotland... Ohhh political jokes, so edgy.

 

But seriously though arguing about days gone seems a bit silly to me. We need answers and not arguments. If you feel duped by this then let's use this new freedom to make positive changes so this can't happen again. Maybe if a politician breaks a promise within one day of winning then the country will go right back to the polls again...

Either way, it's not worth dividing people any more than this referendum already has. You're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem.

Edited June 26, 2016 by FlipMode

[Guest]

There's no denying that quite a lot of Brexiters were racially motivated to vote out of Europe. Unfortunately, there's been a surge of racially motivated crimes. Any ethnic minorities living in the United Kingdom, please report any kind of hate crime to the Police.

[2 quid is good 2,209]

There's no denying that quite a lot of Brexiters were racially motivated to vote out of Europe. Unfortunately, there's been a surge of racially motivated crimes. Any ethnic minorities living in the United Kingdom, please report any kind of hate crime to the Police.

 

This is what I was afraid of. This result sort of legitimises racism and the like.

[Guest]

This is what I was afraid of. This result sort of legitimises racism and the like.

 

We're stronger than the fear mongers and racists: we will prevail! Don't get too worried.

[The 13th Kenpachi 4,279]

We're stronger than the fear mongers and racists: we will prevail! Don't get too worried.

 

This is what I was afraid of. This result sort of legitimises racism and the like.

The three of us are all of brown skin, trio assemble! (I've seen your comments on a few youtube videos Alpha and your real name is there)

 

Yeah there's been a lot of racially motivated abuse lately, towards Muslims, brown people and Polish people. This link is a facebook album that I came accross with over 112 photos, each is a person telling a story about racial abuse made by people who've chosen to leave.

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10101369197077115&set=a.10101369198638985&type=3&theater

 

 

Anyhow, Alpha and Quid, the Government is in chaos right now! Corbyn trying to stage the coup and firing people, people reseigning left right and centre, it's very crazy.

 

I don't think there should be another referendum, we've made the decision and that's final. Reversing the referendum will make things 100 times worse. We live in a democracy, the people have made their decision.

[2 quid is good 2,209]

The three of us are all of brown skin, trio assemble! (I've seen your comments on a few youtube videos Alpha and your real name is there) Yeah there's been a lot of racially motivated abuse lately, towards Muslims, brown people and Polish people. This link is a facebook album that I came accross with over 112 photos, each is a person telling a story about racial abuse made by people who've chosen to leave. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10101369197077115&set=a.10101369198638985&type=3&theater  Anyhow, Alpha and Quid, the Government is in chaos right now! Corbyn trying to stage the coup and firing people, people reseigning left right and centre, it's very crazy. I don't think there should be another referendum, we've made the decision and that's final. Reversing the referendum will make things 100 times worse. We live in a democracy, the people have made their decision.

I keep hearing this. I keep seeing people saying not to be sore and to just move on because a majority has won. I'm not a bad loser I'm not a whinger.I'm not a scare mongerer either. But we really can't stand by this result! Because a majority has not *won*. There's more than enough people who voted leave that regret their decision. As it stands now, the British public - as a CLEAR majority - want to stay. The impact of brexit is too damn high to be signed away by 4% of the public, because they were misinformed and they never thought their vote would count. There's just too much at stake to accept this decision. When article 50 is triggered, I'll be the first to stand down and accept. But right now, when nothings been set in stone, I'll do what I can to make things better.

[FlipMode 141]

This is why Cameron said that as soon as a Leave result would come through, he would trigger article 50 straight away, now he's decided to step down and delay the process for months... That must be really annoying to the EU as well because it's making it look like countries can leave and then just chill out for months while they figure out a way to get the best deal while still maintaining the independence the country has voted for.

I'm not a politician and right now I'm very glad I'm not. The government is in chaos because the current government was assembled on a country that was part of the EU and now it's not, of the country is going to change then the people leading it also need to change.

 

I very much doubt there will be a 2nd referendum and even if there is... What if we have one and people vote to leave again? We just keep going around in circles until eventually the result is remain? No. I voted remain and I truly believe that it was the better option for many reasons.

But at the end of the day, it is what it is.

 

Those who regret voting leave, or were misinformed, you should have done your research and not just followed the clearly false promises.

 

But that's one of the downsides of a democratic country, it gives everyone a chance to have a voice and I don't know if you realised this yet but... Most people are pretty bloody stupid.

But this doesn't have to be terrible, if we all work together and unite (Y'know the very thing the United Kingdom was founded on) then maybe, just maybe, this can be a positive for everyone.

Edited June 26, 2016 by FlipMode