How interested are you in a potential PS4-port of Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 & 2.5?

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

  On 6/16/2016 at 1:53 AM, Alpha Baymax said:

Sony already has it available on the PS3 for starters so Sony fans can stick with that version, and besides, every side game aside Birth by Sleep and X has been on Nintendo systems. They deserve it just as much as Xbox. Square Enix already have Nintendo NX dev-kits so it's a guarantee for KH3 to be on that system too. If Zelda Wii U can be played on the NX then the HD ReMixes should have no problems at all whatsoever. If Square Enix bother to port the remixes into current generation consoles, let it be on the PS4, but don't leave it exclusively for the PS4 when KH3 will release on all major current generation platforms.

Did Square ever give ANY indication that it plans to have KH3 on a Nintendo console? No, they didn't. Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's confirmed to happen. Unless they outright say that they would like to put it on the NX, there's a pretty solid guarantee that it's not going to happen. If they had said that they were considering it as early as they announced that it would also be on XBone, then there might have been a solid chance of it happening, but since they have so far given no indication that they intend to do that and it's so late in the development cycle, reworking things to work for yet another system at the last second could seriously backfire and ruin the game for everyone. Maybe they could some day port it over much later down the line, but unless they say that they want to bring that experience back to Nintendo systems, they're not going to bother with porting those HD remixes to the NX. Plus, wouldn't it be pretty pointless when over half of the games that were on Nintendo systems haven't even been made full games anyway? As things stand right now, it makes much more sense to port the remixes so that they can work on the only other system that is confirmed to be hosting KH3, the Xbox One.

 

And as one further point, the goal of the remixes where to centralize everything to one system for convenience. Porting it to another system almost defeats that purpose, the only exception being if it were ported to a system that was going to use KH3. In which case, it makes sense to have the remixes ported to PS4, as that is the major platform that KH3 is being showcased on, previous significant titles having been on Playstation platforms in the past. The only other exception can be directed towards the Xbox One since KH3 will also be for that system. Like it or not, Nintendo is being left out of this one, and it's understandable.

 

As popular as KH is with it's fans, it's never been one of Nintendo's most major sellers, compared to their own properties. The series is much more popular within the Sony market, so for it to be so focused on Sony systems is only natural. I understand that it might not be "fair" to some users out there, but that's just the way that it is right now. And ultimately, nothing will happen unless both Nomura and his team and Square and Disney themselves want to make it happen, and as I said, they have not shown any signs suggesting that they do so far, and time's really starting to run out for any other huge decisions like that.

[Anti-SOLDIER 68]

I mean, I would buy them but there's no point in porting it to PS4 when Square already ported it to PS3.

 

This is a far-fetched wish, but I would love for them to include even more content if they do decide to port it to the PS4, at least to make it worth buying again other than upgraded graphics.

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

I buy everything Kingdom Hearts, so if the ReMixes were ported over to the PS4, I'd definitely get them!

 

But honestly, I would prefer if that happened AFTER Kingdom Hearts III releases!  That way, KHIII will finally be in our hands and we'll get to play it!  After KHIII comes out, Square could make an ultimate Xehanort Saga package that comes with all of the games in the Kingdom Hearts series so far, ya know?  Now that would be the definitive PS4 KH collection pack right there!

 

But yeah, like I said, do this after Kingdom Hearts III, not before!  And if it doesn't happen, I won't be sad about it, cuz I already have the ReMixes on PS3!

[Shulk 8,623]

Not at all. Already have them on the PS3 (Not to mention owning the original versions of each of them), I have no interest in buying the same thing again just for a couple upgrades related to graphics and framerate. I guess it's cool for the people that want them on PS4, but I'd skip over them.

[KairiKeybasH 851]

If it fixes EVERYTHING that the PS3 failed to do, yes.

Edited June 16, 2016 by MarieltheKeybasHGirl

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It would be cool and all if they could fix the bugs and use 60fps, but I've done everything already. I've gotten all the trophies and I've beaten everything 100%. Not sure that I'd want to do it all over again... It would bother me that there's a much better version of the game I could of done it all on... Just a completionist point of view.

Bringing 1.5 and 2.5 to the PS4 would be great for the people who couldn't play it on PS3 though.

[Setrex 1,031]

I'd be buying it just add to the collection to be honest. I just completed BbS in 2.5 and I'm burnt out on the remasters. I have zero desire to replay them again any time soon, but I know a lot of other people want them though.

 

Not sure about putting 1.5 and 2.5 on the Xbox One though... They'd have to change a number of the graphics to do with button prompts and what not and it seems pointless. The fact that 2.8 isn't on the Xbox One and doesn't even use the touch pad like we all thought it would pretty much sums up that the team are putting KH3 on the Xbox One because of the higher ups at Square Enix want to maximise profits on a big title. I think asking for 1.5, 2.5 and 2.8 is a lost cause at this rate for Xbox players.

[IwasBornAsVentus 396]

Here we go again Square. I understand that a lot of PS4 players want to have the collection on the same console as KH3 but at the same time if this happens I'm going to be really disappointed. Why? well maybe because next year is the 15th freakin anniversary for the KH series what better way to celebrate the 15th anniversary than with KH3 for the world. It would be a waste of potential to release KH3 later when there is such a big opportunity to raise the stakes and hype for the game. Usually I buy almost anything that is KH related but this time around if this happens there is no way that I'm gonna spend my wallet on yet another remix for the PS4. I don't even own a PS4 because I find them to be very expensive even after three years they are still expensive. When I first played DDD and reached to the secret ending I thought "Oh wow we might actually get to a third installment this time around" Then when 1.5 and later 2.5 came out I was like "Ok Square you got my munny on this cool remix collection with the new content. But please move forward now with the series" Then I remember Nomura saying that after 2.5 they are gonna focus on KH3 but then they announce 2.8 which I'm still excited for. Then in the next interview he says that after 2.8, KH3 is the continuation forward. If Nomura doesn't keep his word this time around and delays KH3 for sake of the Remix of 1.5 and 2.5 I'm slowly gonna lose my interest in this game series. As I said I understand the need for the Remix on PS4 but I wish that this would not cover KH3's chance of shining in 2017 and that's my opinon. Why can't they make this after KH3 if so they're about to make it happen?

Edited June 16, 2016 by IwasBornAsVentus

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  On 6/16/2016 at 2:08 AM, Hero of Light XIV said:

Did Square ever give ANY indication that it plans to have KH3 on a Nintendo console? No, they didn't. Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's confirmed to happen. Unless they outright say that they would like to put it on the NX, there's a pretty solid guarantee that it's not going to happen. If they had said that they were considering it as early as they announced that it would also be on XBone, then there might have been a solid chance of it happening, but since they have so far given no indication that they intend to do that and it's so late in the development cycle, reworking things to work for yet another system at the last second could seriously backfire and ruin the game for everyone. Maybe they could some day port it over much later down the line, but unless they say that they want to bring that experience back to Nintendo systems, they're not going to bother with porting those HD remixes to the NX. Plus, wouldn't it be pretty pointless when over half of the games that were on Nintendo systems haven't even been made full games anyway? As things stand right now, it makes much more sense to port the remixes so that they can work on the only other system that is confirmed to be hosting KH3, the Xbox One.

 

They haven’t yet. Nintendo has placed an embargo on titles on the Nintendo NX so major titles cannot even be revealed until the console is revealed. Bandai Namco have been working closely with Nintendo to guarantee that their established franchises like Tekken 7 will be on the NX given their relationship. Did you not know that Square Enix accidently revealed that the latest Dragon Quest is on the Nintendo NX in 2015? 2015! That basically means that Square Enix has had development kits. I’m pretty sure that 2 years is more than enough to tweak the game for the NX platform if it had a hypothetical 2017 release. Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories, Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, Re: Coded and Dream Drop Distance are all originally Nintendo titles. That’s one more than Kingdom Hearts 1, Kingdom Hearts 2 and Birth by Sleep on the Sony PlayStation (quantity wise if you don’t count remixes). Japan loves Nintendo and they loathe Microsoft. Xbox One sales are so low in the west that it’s two digits. The only saving grace for it is Western sales and the inevitable fact that Kingdom Hearts 3 is on the system. For a final release, it should be for PS4, Xbox One and Nintendo NX.  

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 2:08 AM, Hero of Light XIV said:

And as one further point, the goal of the remixes where to centralize everything to one system for convenience. Porting it to another system almost defeats that purpose, the only exception being if it were ported to a system that was going to use KH3. In which case, it makes sense to have the remixes ported to PS4, as that is the major platform that KH3 is being showcased on, previous significant titles having been on Playstation platforms in the past. The only other exception can be directed towards the Xbox One since KH3 will also be for that system. Like it or not, Nintendo is being left out of this one, and it's understandable.

 

Yes, that’s partially true. But now, Kingdom Hearts has now gotten to the point where it’s a multi-platform experience. Sure, it’s primarily Sony because it was birthed at Sony, but the side games were intentionally on Nintendo. The only reason as to why Kingdom Hearts 3 was not on Wii U because Wii U cannot handle Unreal Engine 4 and the Wii U’s low western install base. Had a Nintendo console had the power to handle Unreal Engine 4 and had a high install base, I can guarantee you, Square Enix would stamp Kingdom Hearts 3 for a Nintendo console.

 

 

  On 6/16/2016 at 2:08 AM, Hero of Light XIV said:

As popular as KH is with it's fans, it's never been one of Nintendo's most major sellers, compared to their own properties. The series is much more popular within the Sony market, so for it to be so focused on Sony systems is only natural. I understand that it might not be "fair" to some users out there, but that's just the way that it is right now. And ultimately, nothing will happen unless both Nomura and his team and Square and Disney themselves want to make it happen, and as I said, they have not shown any signs suggesting that they do so far, and time's really starting to run out for any other huge decisions like that.

 

I disagree, if Kingdom Hearts did not sell units on Nintendo, they would have given up on Chain of Memories. The Nintendo DS had too high of an install base for Square Enix to ignore hence Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days and Re: Coded to be on the Nintendo DS and Dream Drop Distance to be on the 3DS. They haven’t shown any signs of Xbox and Nintendo release because there’s no signs of a definite PS4 compilation collection. Square Enix are just “considering” the possibility (which in itself isn’t even a guarantee). 

[Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) 3,859]

What? How can people actually be happy with MORE KH games before KH3?

 

Anyways, SE must be happy with their fanbase, they're always willing to pay a little bit more.

 

Just give us KH3 already.

[lehahiah81 60]

I would really like to based on what it came with. I'm not really sure how much better they can make the games look, but I'd rather have some more stuff included rather than just new visuals, but I would rather have it after KH3 release do to already waiting for 2.8 and 3. 

Edited June 16, 2016 by lehahiah81

[Ven983 490]

Assuming that they would the issues that plagued them (especially KH2 FM) and bumped up the frame rates to 60fps, I would buy them.

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

  On 6/16/2016 at 12:04 PM, Alpha Baymax said:

They haven’t yet. Nintendo has placed an embargo on titles on the Nintendo NX so major titles cannot even be revealed until the console is revealed. Bandai Namco have been working closely with Nintendo to guarantee that their established franchises like Tekken 7 will be on the NX given their relationship. Did you not know that Square Enix accidently revealed that the latest Dragon Quest is on the Nintendo NX in 2015? 2015! That basically means that Square Enix has had development kits. I’m pretty sure that 2 years is more than enough to tweak the game for the NX platform if it had a hypothetical 2017 release. Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories, Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, Re: Coded and Dream Drop Distance are all originally Nintendo titles. That’s one more than Kingdom Hearts 1, Kingdom Hearts 2 and Birth by Sleep on the Sony PlayStation (quantity wise if you don’t count remixes). Japan loves Nintendo and they loathe Microsoft. Xbox One sales are so low in the west that it’s two digits. The only saving grace for it is Western sales and the inevitable fact that Kingdom Hearts 3 is on the system. For a final release, it should be for PS4, Xbox One and Nintendo NX.  

 

 

 

Yes, that’s partially true. But now, Kingdom Hearts has now gotten to the point where it’s a multi-platform experience. Sure, it’s primarily Sony because it was birthed at Sony, but the side games were intentionally on Nintendo. The only reason as to why Kingdom Hearts 3 was not on Wii U because Wii U cannot handle Unreal Engine 4 and the Wii U’s low western install base. Had a Nintendo console had the power to handle Unreal Engine 4 and had a high install base, I can guarantee you, Square Enix would stamp Kingdom Hearts 3 for a Nintendo console.

 

 

 

I disagree, if Kingdom Hearts did not sell units on Nintendo, they would have given up on Chain of Memories. The Nintendo DS had too high of an install base for Square Enix to ignore hence Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days and Re: Coded to be on the Nintendo DS and Dream Drop Distance to be on the 3DS. They haven’t shown any signs of Xbox and Nintendo release because there’s no signs of a definite PS4 compilation collection. Square Enix are just “considering” the possibility (which in itself isn’t even a guarantee). 

1. I think you're forgetting the fact that at least one of those titles was remade entirely in favor of being played on the Playstation 2, so at this point the balance is nearly reversed. Also, unless you intended on contradicting yourself by saying that Microsoft is simultaneously doing both well and poor in the western market, I'm pretty sure you meant to say that it was doing very poorly in the EAST to the point where it's in "double digits". Because I'm well aware of how unpopular Xbox is over there, frankly I'm still questioning the decision to port KH3 to the Xbone in the first place, but it is what it is now.

 

2. Don't get me wrong, having it on a Nintendo platform in place of Xbone would have been a much more logical decision, but the fact is that with the Wii U not being as powerful as necessary to handle the engine, the NX being a fairy tale by the time KH3 was officially announced, and the game being so late into development by this point, to try tinker things further by making it compatible on the NX NOW would be a huge risk for the whole project. Unless it turns out that Square had been working in secret to have this game ready for the NX's formal release by using the dev kits as soon as they got them like everyone has been speculating with other projects, just suddenly deciding to work on bringing it to the NX now at this stage in development could have the potential to turn this into another Rise of Lyric.

 

3. At this point all I can say to that is that in the end, it just comes down to playing "favorites". KH is fairly popular enough to warrant Nintendo system releases (though again, never enough to warrant a console release or re-release), but because of it's roots it tends to be more associated with Sony more than anything. It doesn't mean that Nintendo doesn't "deserve" a KH console release, it just means that at the end of the day, Sony will be considered first. There was never any doubt that KH3 would be on a Sony system in the first place, the main reason for when the spin-off titles were put on the systems they were put on was mostly based on what Nomura and his teams wanted to do with both the story and the gameplay. Yes a good deal of that led to them using Nintendo systems, but don't forget that the same style of thinking also led them to put a game on a mobile phone that only Japan had access to. And another major reason Nintendo tended to be considered for those titles was that they tended to have more of a leg up on the portable market. With Birth by Sleep being considered as important as any numbered title that led to it's movement to the PSP (also because it's base engine was originally meant for the PS2), they went with that as it had the capability to present their story and gameplay style in a way that the DS just couldn't reach at the time. The thought process they put into which games go where was not purely because of how "popular" which system or company was in which region (if they did that then KH would have had much more of a history on Microsoft systems in the US than it does now), but because of which creative decisions they made on what they want the gameplay to be like and how they want the story to be presented. Because of how huge KH3 is going to be, that largely affected their decision about which systems the game would play on (though again, they knew going in they wanted to bring it back to a Sony system). The PS4 and Xbone both already made clear at that time that they had the capability to handle such a task. There is a good chance that the NX could handle it too, but if 2015 is the earliest they would have had a chance to work on it, then the only shot it would have on the NX is if it had a delayed release for that system. A NX port of KH3 might be possible, but not if it's to be released at the same time as the PS4 and Xbox One systems, unless they're really willing to delay KH3's release towards the end of having them all simultaneously available.

 

But hey, I could be wrong, I don't know that much about game development other than it works best when there is lots of time, effort, creativity, and forethought put in as early as possible. There's always the slim chance that they have been working on it this whole time and that with the NX's formal reveal a KH3 port announcement wouldn't be too far behind. I'm just not getting my hopes up for a simultaneous release on all three companies' systems, let alone the remixes being available for everybody, as much as I would love that.

[Soul_Seeker 753]

  On 6/16/2016 at 3:43 PM, XamtehwtMCTrece( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) said:

What? How can people actually be happy with MORE KH games before KH3?

 

Anyways, SE must be happy with their fanbase, they're always willing to pay a little bit more.

 

Just give us KH3 already.

 

I'm actually not sure if your post was serious or not, but in any case...

 

Releasing these ports would have no effect on KH3's progress as the HD Remixes have not impacted its development at all (direct quote from Tai Yasue, Square Enix Presents). I see no problem with more games before KH3, especially if it doesn't slow it down.

[The Deathdealer 96]

I'd rather them pull a Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster, and put Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD Remix, 2.5 HD Remix, 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue, and Kingdom Hearts 3 all on Steam

 

Have it run in DirectX 12, and Vulkan

Have Multi-GPU Support

3440 x 1440 Support 

[Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) 3,859]

  On 6/17/2016 at 1:31 AM, Rocketboy said:

I'm actually not sure if your post was serious or not, but in any case...

 

Releasing these ports would have no effect on KH3's progress as the HD Remixes have not impacted its development at all (direct quote from Tai Yasue, Square Enix Presents). I see no problem with more games before KH3, especially if it doesn't slow it down.

Hm... it was somewhere in between serious and joking, I do think that the HD Remixes are milking the KH series and I don't like how they're just given more and more importance, but I do know it won't affect KH3, and in fact it will make SE earn more money and it would help their future games, so it isn't a bad idea.

 

I still think is has to affect KH3 in some way or another.