Terra's model is terrible

[AzureAce 544]

Now it's likely I'll get flak for this, but it has to be said by someone. Terra's model in 0.2 is god awful compared to his model in BBS. As you can see from the very quick comparison shot from Terra's in-game model in BBS to Terra in the cutscene of 0.2. 

 

You can clearly see that there is a lack of colour in his face, as Terra is a little more darker toned skin than being completely albino like he is in 0.2. There is also no texture or shading whatsoever in Terra's armour piece in 0.2, whereas there is in BBS. There's also a lot less work done on Terra's torso in 0.2, whereas in BBS, there was tons of shading and a lot more detail.

 

This is something Square Enix MUST address, because if this is how Terra looks in the final project, I'm not going to be too happy with it.

 

(Terra BBS model)

(Terra's 0.2 model) 

[Felixx 6,646]

Well the BBS model you posted isn't from the game itself, really. I mean Terra doesn't nearly look like that in the game, with all the shading and textures.

I agree though that his face in 0.2 looks a bit weird. Hopefully they'll fix that.

[AzureAce 544]

  On 6/14/2016 at 9:47 PM, Felixx said:

Well the BBS model you posted isn't from the game itself, really. I mean Terra doesn't nearly look like that in the game, with all the shading and textures.

I agree though that his face in 0.2 looks a bit weird. Hopefully they'll fix that.

Well that BBS picture of Terra is the model used for cutscenes, which you'll see by looking at a couple cutscenes in BBS, they're similar, if not identical. So I compared cutscene model to cutscene model. And even then, my point still stands.

Edited June 14, 2016 by AzureAce

[Felixx 6,646]

  On 6/14/2016 at 9:48 PM, AzureAce said:

Well that BBS picture of Terra is the model used for cutscenes, which you'll see by looking at a couple cutscenes in BBS, they're similar, if not identical. So I compared cutscene model to cutscene model. And even then, my point still stands.

Oh you're right Forget what I said about that. Then let's hope they'll fix that too, though it's 6 months before 2.8 gets released, so chances are high this is not the final model for Terra.

[Kaweebo 3,617]

His skin does look a little plastic-y compared to Aqua, but if he only appears for a little bit, it's not too bad. 

[AzureAce 544]

  On 6/14/2016 at 9:53 PM, Kaweebo said:

His skin does look a little plastic-y compared to Aqua, but if he only appears for a little bit, it's not too bad. 

I'll reiterate what I said in my status.

 

Just because he appears for a short time, doesn't excuse him having a shitty model. That's like saying "You're offering me a sandwich with ham and cheese on it. Take the ham and cheese off, I just want the plain, ordinary bread." This is why devs make games broken at launch, because people accept the state it's in. Well I ain't accepting it, it should be looking good and up to par with other models, like Aqua's whose is looking amazing. So whether he's there for a minute, an hour, 10 hours, he should be a good looking model, and at the very least on par with Aqua.

[Xiro 3,468]

  On 6/14/2016 at 9:53 PM, Felixx said:

Oh you're right Forget what I said about that. Then let's hope they'll fix that too, though it's 6 months before 2.8 gets released, so chances are high this is not the final model for Terra.

Only problem is that people over there have got to address it, otherwise they probably won't do squat about it

[KHUndertaleFan25 2,858]

Well, i think he looks beautiful. Don't judge me...

[Felixx 6,646]

  On 6/14/2016 at 9:57 PM, Xiro said:

Only problem is that people over there have got to address it, otherwise they probably won't do squat about it

Well it's possible that they already know it, but didn't have time to fix it for the demo. Also his appearance is rather short, so it probably wasn't their top priority. So hopefully they do know it

[Kaweebo 3,617]

  On 6/14/2016 at 9:56 PM, AzureAce said:

I'll reiterate what I said in my status.

 

Just because he appears for a short time, doesn't excuse him having a shitty model. That's like saying "You're offering me a sandwich with ham and cheese on it. Take the ham and cheese off, I just want the plain, ordinary bread." This is why devs make games broken at launch, because people accept the state it's in. Well I ain't accepting it, it should be looking good and up to par with other models, like Aqua's whose is looking amazing. So whether he's there for a minute, an hour, 10 hours, he should be a good looking model, and at the very least on par with Aqua.

I don't really care what your opinion is. In my own, it's not too bad for what amounts to 15 seconds. Even if he gets more screentime, same thing. For everything else we're getting in the future, I can live with a Terra model who looks like he belongs in Toy Story. 

Edited June 14, 2016 by Kaweebo

[AzureAce 544]

  On 6/14/2016 at 10:12 PM, Kaweebo said:

I don't really care what your opinion is. In my own, it's not too bad for what amounts to 15 seconds. Even if he gets more screentime, same thing. For everything else we're getting in the future, I can live with a Terra model who looks like he belongs in Toy Story. 

If you want to play a downgraded, worse version of a game that has a lot more potential than it's showing then that's up to you. But in the end it'll be your loss and the corporation's gain.

[Kaweebo 3,617]

  On 6/14/2016 at 10:14 PM, AzureAce said:

If you want to play a downgraded, worse version of a game that has a lot more potential than it's showing then that's up to you. But in the end it'll be your loss and the corporation's gain.

You're getting all of that over a less-than-stellar character model? A less-than-stellar character model who, for all we know, only appears in that one scene? Somehow, I feel like you're overreacting a little. And also ignoring everything else they've presented in 0.2 so far.

Edited June 14, 2016 by Kaweebo

[MasterLorX 43]

I agree Terra's 0.2 model isn't that good but I think they didn't have time to make it great like Acqua's, I'm sure they're gonna fix it in the next 6 months

 

  On 6/14/2016 at 10:12 PM, Kaweebo said:

I don't really care what your opinion is. In my own, it's not too bad for what amounts to 15 seconds. Even if he gets more screentime, same thing. For everything else we're getting in the future, I can live with a Terra model who looks like he belongs in Toy Story. 

Terra is one of KH protagonists it would be stupid not to make his model good as the other main characters, I can accept the horrible new 0.2 MIckey but not this Terra also if Terra's model isn't good this means a not good model for Ansem, Xemnas and Terranort too which is something we really wanna avoid

Edited June 14, 2016 by MasterLorX

[Kaweebo 3,617]

  On 6/14/2016 at 10:20 PM, MasterLorX said:

I agree Terra's 0.2 model isn't that good but I think they didn't have time to make it great like Acqua's, I'm sure they're gonna fix it in the next 6 months

 

Terra is one of KH protagonists it would be stupid not to make his model good as the other main characters, I can accept the horrible new 0.2 MIckey but not this Terra also if Terra's model isn't good this means a not good model for Ansem, Xemnas and Terranort which is something we really wanna avoid

OR, and here's a wild guess, maybe they just didn't put as much effort into his model because it only appears for ten seconds. I do not get how you're expecting that, because Terra's BBS model (which, as far as we know, might very well never pop up again in the series) looks like shit, that automatically means that everything will look like shit, in spite of everything else that they've shown which looks fantastic. You have no basis in assuming anything beyond what they've shown. 

Edited June 14, 2016 by Kaweebo

[KairiKeybasH 851]

Really people complaining about a face... It's just a face, looks should not matter.

[AzureAce 544]

  On 6/14/2016 at 10:16 PM, Kaweebo said:

You're getting all of that over a less-than-stellar character model? A less-than-stellar character model who, for all we know, only appears in that one scene? Somehow, I feel like you're overreacting a little. And also ignoring everything else they've presented in 0.2 so far.

How am I ignoring everything? Have you not seen me on KH13? I've been praising the looks of 0.2 to the moon and back. Am I not allowed to express my opinion and openly criticise the game when it deserves criticism? If you're gonna act like the minority and decry criticism of the game to any degree then please don't argue back with me because it's honestly not worth my time arguing with someone who wants to censor my opinion.

[Kaweebo 3,617]

  On 6/14/2016 at 10:24 PM, AzureAce said:

How am I ignoring everything? Have you not seen me on KH13? I've been praising the looks of 0.2 to the moon and back. Am I not allowed to express my opinion and openly criticise the game when it deserves criticism? If you're gonna act like the minority and decry criticism of the game to any degree then please don't argue back with me because it's honestly not worth my time arguing with someone who wants to censor my opinion.

Censor your opinion how? Have I reported your thread is breaking rules, did I tell you you can't have your opinion? All I said was it looks fine to me and you responded saying that it doesn't matter what I think, it looks like shit and they should fix it. If anybody's telling anybody their opinion doesn't matter, it's you. I just said I don't rightly care what your opinion is on its quality, because I think it looks fine for what it is. Expressing my opinion on the platform you provided. 

 

There may be deeper flaws under the surface that we haven't seen and if there is, I'll be the first in line to call foul. But as is, what we've seen looks good to me and Terra's model, while not perfect, looks fine to me. You're coming across as if because his model isn't as good as Aqua's, that automatically means they're cutting corners and the game won't be as good as we think. 

[AzureAce 544]

  On 6/14/2016 at 10:12 PM, Kaweebo said:

I don't really care what your opinion is.

 

  On 6/14/2016 at 10:31 PM, Kaweebo said:

If anybody's telling anybody their opinion doesn't matter, it's you.

I'm sorry, come again? That's a little hypocritical of you there.

 

Also, if they're really wanting to make this game the best it can be, they should be taking full advantage of the technology at hand to do it, and they have the technology. Accepting a part of the game that is clearly flawed compared to a model that was created 6 years ago is exactly what they want, because it means they can be lazy and not try as hard, resulting in a poorer game for us. 

[Yessie Maltese 1,564]

no offense, Ace but I really don't care about the model. I care about what happened with Aqua and Mickey and why he didn't save her. Please don't get mad at me.

[KHUndertaleFan25 2,858]

  On 6/14/2016 at 10:38 PM, Yessie Maltese said:

no offense, Ace but I really don't care about the model. I care about what happened with Aqua and Mickey and why he didn't save her. Please don't get mad at me.

While i love the model, i respect your opinion. And i won't get mad at you, either . *gives you a hug*

  On 6/14/2016 at 10:23 PM, MarieltheKeybasHGirl said:

Really people complaining about a face... It's just a face, looks should not matter.

This girl right here!

[Kaweebo 3,617]

  On 6/14/2016 at 10:36 PM, AzureAce said:

I'm sorry, come again? That's a little hypocritical of you there.

 

Also, if they're really wanting to make this game the best it can be, they should be taking full advantage of the technology at hand to do it, and they have the technology. Accepting a part of the game that is clearly flawed compared to a model that was created 6 years ago is exactly what they want, because it means they can be lazy and not try as hard, resulting in a poorer game for us. 

'I don't care what your opinion is' ≠ 'Your opinion doesn't matter'.

 

In your opinion it looks flawed comparatively. In mine, Terra's model in 0.2 is better than his original one just based on the increased texture quality and whatnot alone. He just doesn't look as good as Aqua, which he shouldn't since she's the main character of the game and again, for all we know, Terra will never appear again in that form. If you cannot see the detriment in wasting time perfecting a model that might very well never appear again compared to spending time improving everything else, then I don't know what else I can say to you. 

 

Also, fun fact: The game isn't coming out for another six months and we're seeing that footage recorded from a cell phone a couple feet away. Just thought I should point that out.

Edited June 14, 2016 by Kaweebo

[Felixx 6,646]

Hey guys, please try to respect each other's opinion. Arguing is fine as long as it's in a friendly and civil manner. Thanks

[KHUndertaleFan25 2,858]

  On 6/14/2016 at 10:47 PM, Felixx said:

Hey guys, please try to respect each other's opinion. Arguing is fine as long as it's in a friendly and civil manner. Thanks

You got it, Mr. Felixx ^_^.

Edited June 14, 2016 by KHUndertaleFan25

[AzureAce 544]

  On 6/14/2016 at 10:44 PM, Kaweebo said:

'I don't care what your opinion is' ≠ 'Your opinion doesn't matter'.

 

In your opinion it looks flawed comparatively. In mine, Terra's model in 0.2 is better than his original one just based on the increased texture quality and whatnot alone. He just doesn't look as good as Aqua, which he shouldn't since she's the main character of the game and again, for all we know, Terra will never appear again in that form. If you cannot see the detriment in wasting time perfecting a model that might very well never appear again compared to spending time improving everything else, then I don't know what else I can say to you. 

 

Also, fun fact: The game isn't coming out for another six months and we're seeing that footage recorded from a cell phone a couple feet away. Just thought I should point that out.

Aren't you forgetting that this is 10 minutes of a 3+ hour game? There's 2 hours and 50 minutes worth at the very least of Terra returning. And considering Aqua alludes to her memories in the game, with Terra appearing it's fair to assume he'll appear again, hell, Ventus might even appear at some point, who knows? 

[Kaweebo 3,617]

  On 6/14/2016 at 10:48 PM, AzureAce said:

Aren't you forgetting that this is 10 minutes of a 3+ hour game? There's 2 hours and 50 minutes worth at the very least of Terra returning. And considering Aqua alludes to her memories in the game, with Terra appearing it's fair to assume he'll appear again, hell, Ventus might even appear at some point, who knows? 

Source on the 3+ hour part. But I want to emphasize to the last thing you said.

 

 

  On 6/14/2016 at 10:48 PM, AzureAce said:

who knows? 

You're exactly right. Who knows if we'll see him more and who knows whether or not his model will be improved by December? Nobody. And even if it isn't, it's still not representative of the rest of the game. 

Edited June 14, 2016 by Kaweebo