Neku Sakuraba 88 Posted June 11, 2016 Hi there. How's it going, reader? I was wondering if you could help me with this question on my mind, so take a look! For awhile now, I've been asking myself as to which keyblade does Aqua use for her main? Master's Defender or Rainfell? We know that Aqua had to sacrifice her blade and armor, and had to use the Master's Defender, but does that become her new main keyblade? Os it that she inheritied the blade from her Master before her, and now uses it as her own? If so, what happens to Rainfell? Is it obsolete or what? Or, the toher way around? Help would be greatly apperciated as I would really like to end this conflict in my thoughts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AngelTheWeirdStranger 504 Posted June 11, 2016 Aqua gives up her armor and her Stormfall/Rainfell Keyblade in order to save Terra, which is why you see her armor and Keyblade when Xemnas visits her in the chamber of Sleep during Kingdom Hearts 2. But during Birth By Sleep Final Episode, it was shown that Aqua assumed possesion of the Master's Keeper which is uses to replace her original keyblade in the Realm of Darkness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neku Sakuraba 88 Posted June 11, 2016 Aqua gives up her armor and her Stormfall/Rainfell Keyblade in order to save Terra, which is why you see her armor and Keyblade when Xemnas visits her in the chamber of Sleep during Kingdom Hearts 2.But during Birth By Sleep Final Episode, it was shown that Aqua assumed possesion of the Master's Keeper which is uses to replace her original keyblade in the Realm of Darkness. Yes but is Rainfell just not hers to use anymore? Is Defender now her's to keep? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Felixx 6,646 Posted June 11, 2016 Yes but is Rainfell just not hers to use anymore? Is Defender now her's to keep?No one can answer that now. She may get her Rainfell back when they're in Castle Oblivion to save Ventus. Or she may not. If she gets it back she may use it again or she may not. You just have to wait for KH3 to find that out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AngelTheWeirdStranger 504 Posted June 11, 2016 Yes but is Rainfell just not hers to use anymore? Is Defender now her's to keep?I assume she gave it up along with her armor to save Terra, so until she finds it in the realm of light again she cannot wield it, and since Master's Keeper was left with no wielder when Eraqus died, I'm pretty sure it became Aqua's because she was the Master next in line and was also the first to claim it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlazingSoul 130 Posted June 11, 2016 They're both her keyblades now, unless Eraqus comes back to life. The reason she can't summon her original keyblade is because it's in another realm. If she wouldn't had taken Eraqus' keyblade with her, then she would had been defenseless in the RoD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingdomhe 1,362 Posted June 11, 2016 Hi there. How's it going, reader? I was wondering if you could help me with this question on my mind, so take a look! For awhile now, I've been asking myself as to which keyblade does Aqua use for her main? Master's Defender or Rainfell? We know that Aqua had to sacrifice her blade and armor, and had to use the Master's Defender, but does that become her new main keyblade? Os it that she inheritied the blade from her Master before her, and now uses it as her own? If so, what happens to Rainfell? Is it obsolete or what? Or, the toher way around? Help would be greatly apperciated as I would really like to end this conflict in my thoughts. She could be like Mickey and have/use both. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLorX 43 Posted June 11, 2016 so guys this means Aqua and Mickey are Keyblade weilders that can summon 2 different keyblades (but not in the same time) even if they only have 1 heart inside of them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AngelTheWeirdStranger 504 Posted June 11, 2016 so guys this means Aqua and Mickey are Keyblade weilders that can summon 2 different keyblades (but not in the same time) even if they only have 1 heart inside of themI wanted to ask though, is having two hearts really a limitation? Because I don't remember Roxas having 2 hearts within him when dual wielding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Felixx 6,646 Posted June 11, 2016 I wanted to ask though, is having two hearts really a limitation? Because I don't remember Roxas having 2 hearts within him when dual wielding.Roxas could activate the power of dual wielding because of Ven's heart. When he became one with Sora then Sora could do that too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AngelTheWeirdStranger 504 Posted June 11, 2016 So techinacally, Sora can triple wield because he has the hearts of Roxas, Ventus and his own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Felixx 6,646 Posted June 11, 2016 So techinacally, Sora can triple wield because he has the hearts of Roxas, Ventus and his own.No Roxas has no own Keyblade. He wielded Sora's and Ven's. But I bet he'll get his own once he's a real person again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AngelTheWeirdStranger 504 Posted June 11, 2016 No Roxas has no own Keyblade. He wielded Sora's and Ven's. But I bet he'll get his own once he's a real person again But how could he wield one without a heart? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Felixx 6,646 Posted June 11, 2016 But how could he wield one without a heart?Don't know if you need a heart when it's not your own Keyblade. But Roxas had a heart at some point, that's why he had feelings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AngelTheWeirdStranger 504 Posted June 11, 2016 Don't know if you need a heart when it's not your own Keyblade. But Roxas had a heart at some point, that's why he had feelings.So being Sora's/Ventu's nobody allowed him free access to a Keyblade without the need of a heart, unless he had Ventus's heart within him from the start. If he always had Ven's heart within him then that would mean that he eventually developed his own and that allowed him to dual wield.Or rented Keyblades don't require a heart and thus when he developed his own he was able to wield Sora's and his own...Gah, so confusing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Felixx 6,646 Posted June 11, 2016 So being Sora's/Ventu's nobody allowed him free access to a Keyblade without the need of a heart, unless he had Ventus's heart within him from the start. If he always had Ven's heart within him then that would mean that he eventually developed his own and that allowed him to dual wield.Or rented Keyblades don't require a heart and thus when he developed his own he was able to wield Sora's and his own...Gah, so confusing. Yeah, Xemnas could have also used a Keyblade if he wanted to, so I guess they don't need a heart for rented Keyblades XDAnd Nomura said that Roxas wielded Sora's and Ven's Keyblade. After Xion died this ability got activated (to wield Ven's too). He hasn't gotten his own yet as far as I know.And yes, very confusinf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AngelTheWeirdStranger 504 Posted June 11, 2016 Yeah, Xemnas could have also used a Keyblade if he wanted to, so I guess they don't need a heart for rented Keyblades XDAnd Nomura said that Roxas wielded Sora's and Ven's Keyblade. After Xion died this ability got activated (to wield Ven's too). He hasn't gotten his own yet as far as I know.And yes, very confusinf I always wondered why Xemnas wouldn't wield the Keyblade. :PAnd if Roxas used Ven's and Sora's then that would that Roxas is the only one who can wield 2 Keyblades with only one heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Felixx 6,646 Posted June 11, 2016 I always wondered why Xemnas wouldn't wield the Keyblade. :PAnd if Roxas used Ven's and Sora's then that would that Roxas is the only one who can wield 2 Keyblades with only one heart.Nomura said he had his reasons, whatever that means Also lightsabers are SO much cooler!And technically yes, since he was still connected to Sora that gave him the ability to wield his Keyblade without a heart. That's why Roxas is OP 1 Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AngelTheWeirdStranger 504 Posted June 11, 2016 When Nomura gives answers like that it usually means plot holes. And great, thanks for making my favorite character even more amazing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Felixx 6,646 Posted June 11, 2016 When Nomura gives answers like that it usually means plot holes. :PAnd great, thanks for making my favorite character even more amazing. I bet so And you're welcome, though Roxas is making himself so awesome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLorX 43 Posted June 11, 2016 (edited) Yeah, Xemnas could have also used a Keyblade if he wanted to, so I guess they don't need a heart for rented Keyblades XDAnd Nomura said that Roxas wielded Sora's and Ven's Keyblade. After Xion died this ability got activated (to wield Ven's too). He hasn't gotten his own yet as far as I know.And yes, very confusinf Nomura said that Xemnas MIGHT have the ability to wield a keyblade so we are not 100% sure he actually could.Personally I think it is better if Xemnas couldn't wield the keyblade because if he really could this fact would make nonsensical KHdays and KH2If you want an answer about why Roxas could wield a keyblade and Xemnas not, maybe it is because Roxas' original persona (Sora) managed to return back, this peculiar situation made it possible for Roxas to weild Sora's keyblade since he is the half of Sora.Instead for Xemnas case, when Terranort split into two Xehanort's keyblade disappeard because its original weilder (Xehanort) ceased to exist Edited June 11, 2016 by MasterLorX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Felixx 6,646 Posted June 11, 2016 Nomura said that Xemnas MIGHT have the ability to wield a keyblade so we are not 100% sure he actually could. Personally I think it is better if Xemnas couldn't wield the keyblade because if he really could this fact would make nonsensical KHdays and KH2 If you want an answer about why Roxas could wield a keyblade and Xemnas not, maybe it is because Roxas' original persona (Sora) managed to return back, this peculiar situation made it possible for Roxas to weild Sora's keyblade since he is the half of Sora. Instead for Xemnas case, when Terranort split into two Xehanort's keyblade disappeard because its original weilder (Xehanort) ceased to exist -- Roxas, the "Sora + Ventus" Nobody, was able to use a Keyblade. In contrast Xemnas, the "Terra + Master Xehanort" Nobody, wasn't able to use a Keyblade. Why is this? Nomura: I'd rather that point remain a mystery. It's possible that he intentionally wasn't using one. He can use it, just decided not to. (imo) But we all know Nomura and his retcons 1 Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLorX 43 Posted June 11, 2016 -- Roxas, the "Sora + Ventus" Nobody, was able to use a Keyblade. In contrast Xemnas, the "Terra + Master Xehanort" Nobody, wasn't able to use a Keyblade. Why is this?Nomura: I'd rather that point remain a mystery. It's possible that he intentionally wasn't using one.[/size] He can use it, just decided not to. (imo) But we all know Nomura and his retcons [/size] He said "it's possible", I know this interview highly suggests Xemnas don't weild the keyblade by choice but I still like to believe he can't because of his nobody statusseriously what's the point of forcing Roxas and Sora to destroy heartless if he could do it himself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted June 12, 2016 (edited) For some reason I read this as Aqua Man's Keyblade lol. At any rate, I'm pretty sure Aqua would be able to reclaim her Keyblade once she has access to it, but for now she is using Eraqus'. It's not something we haven't seen before, we saw Mickey temporarily using Yen Sid's Keyblade before he ended up getting Kingdom Key D. He said "it's possible", I know this interview highly suggests Xemnas don't weild the keyblade by choice but I still like to believe he can't because of his nobody statusseriously what's the point of forcing Roxas and Sora to destroy heartless if he could do it himself Because Xemnas was lying to the Organization members. I think it would be a dead giveaway that he was the one who turned a bunch of them into Nobodies in the first place. It makes a lot of sense to hide his Keyblade until he needed it to fulfill his real intentions. Edited June 12, 2016 by Robbie the Wise 1 Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites