NPC 10 Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) I hope this is not against the rules. Just gonna provide a space for those who are angry/upset/disappointed/annoyed by these hackers/cheaters in Unchained X. I'm not here to start an argument, I just want to voice out my opinions on this issue. This is probably quite a long post cause I just have so much to say. Please forgive me. First of all, I'm not blaming Square Enix for not fixing the problem. Why? Because I know how hard it is to develop a game (I, myself, am stepping into this career). It is almost impossible or just impossible to make a game that can prevent all these hacking from happening. They are not bugs in the game. They are actions of the 'players'. Do a system/code to stop the hack? They'll just come out with a better hack to hack that system/code. The only way to stop these hackers is to ban them. Like how most big game companies does. But this won't work on Kingdom Hearts Unchained X since there is no real 'account' for any player. Ban their accounts and they can always uninstall the game, install it again and they can start a new one. So I'm definitely not angry or upset or disappointed at Square. But I am VERY VERY VERY ANGRY AND UPSET AND DISAPPOINTED at these hackers. I assume anyone who plays the game is a fan of the series itself or else there is really no point (May be I am wrong but assume it is that way). I just don't understand why they want to do that. What do they want to prove? That Square cannot fix an issue in their game? That they can be the best player without spending a single cent? As a fan of Kingdom Hearts, they should be ashamed. Or more like they are not worthy to be called a fan, a player. If they just want the rewards, why not go and hack the medals out themselves? They are not just spoiling the experience for everyone else but also proving that there are just some uneducated donkeys in the supposedly lovely community. They are going to cause or already causing many players to lose interest in the game. Players (for example myself) are losing the drive to fight for more Lux, to farm raid boss with their party, to challenge the ranking. Because there is just no point in doing so since we are not going to get to our desired rank at all. I was at rank 400+ last week when the rewards just came back, with about 450 000 Lux. This week I'm already at 640 000 Lux and I can't even see myself anywhere near the rank 1600 and the week is not done yet. Yes, there are definitely more players fighting to the rank this week because the rewards are more attractive than last week's. But when I see the top 10 rankings, 10/10 have unreasonable amount of lux like 889 999 911 and all they have is a non fully unlocked starlight with 3 2-stars medals. I can't even see the past champions in the top 10 anymore. It's just so frustrating. Like all the time (and money?) that you spent but you can never get the result that you want because someone else cheated. I believe (or hope?) most of you get what I'm trying to say here. And if you do I believe you are most likely having some anger/rage built inside you that you want to let out on this issue, just like I did. There is really nothing we can do to solve this issue. So I decided to leave this topic here, so anyone can just rant. Provided if this does stay on the forum. @admins if you think this is inappropriate, please do take it down if necessary. I just want to share my experience. And @hackers if you are reading this, please try to understand how others feel. Consider me begging you, please stop the hacking and allow everyone to enjoy the game. Thank you. p.s. Hope my English isn't all that bad cheers Edited: I know some of you may think that the high Lux is due to the current event that is going on. So to further prove my point. Here's some screenshots Solo Rank 1 in Vulpeus Solo Rank 1 profile 1 Solo Rank 1 profile 2 Party Ranking Party Rank 4 Party Rank 5 Edited: As some of you may have already noticed, Square has started taking action against these hackers on the leader board. Those in the screenshots above have been removed from the rankings. Definitely very very happy to see this. However there are still some new ones popping out. I'm just glad to see the real champions are back in the top 10. And wow! I'm still really really far back in the ranking. I guess everyone has just been working hard on the event. Thank you guys for pointing out the things that I've said wrong. Edited June 10, 2016 by NPC 6 ladydualwieldin, EchoFox23*, AaySquare and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) That's because this week is a raid boss event that gives out double lux. That's why lux count will be really high, especially if you have a good party. Edit: Actually never mind you're right. Just checked Unicornis ranks and the number one guy has played for one day and has 549,999,945 lux. Edited June 9, 2016 by Robbie the Wise Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Justin- 2,111 Posted June 9, 2016 Oh great, not this crap again. This is getting ridiculous! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dustin Newton 60 Posted June 9, 2016 there are no hackers, there's a raid event that gives double lux Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NPC 10 Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) there are no hackers, there's a raid event that gives double lux if you are in vulpeus, you will know what i mean when you check the top 10. if you are not, i'm happy to share more examples of these hackers if you want to. Edited: here's some screenshots of our current 1st rank Edited June 9, 2016 by NPC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RikuFangirl2008 1,368 Posted June 9, 2016 Omg! Seriously,?! They need to go somewhere... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mag77 405 Posted June 9, 2016 I'm in Anguis, and all top ten spots are by hackers. Trust me, I looked and they're all just like the guy in the picture you showed: all have weak keyblades with weak medals, and have only played for one day. It really sucks for those that are working hard and doing it the right way! And it looks like its happening in all unions too. However, I haven't seen party rankings being messed up by the hackers yet, just solo, so that's something I guess. I'm glad I'm not the only one angry about all this. Oh, and don't worry; your English is fine. 1 NPC reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Awesome Sauce 634 Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Preach it. Those idiots will never learn to play fair, and they'll still be annoying pieces of shiz until something happens. Edited June 9, 2016 by Awesome Sauce Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladydualwieldin 212 Posted June 9, 2016 I'm sad to say that I'm so used to hackers on leaderboards in other games that I'm pretty unfazed by this, personally. Yeah, it sucks, and "everyone does it" certainly isn't an excuse, but there's definitely more to the game than the high scores (the story and collecting medals are my interests), so I hope too many people aren't put off by this. And a lot of the time, hackers don't do it for rewards (many leaderboards don't offer anything for placing) but more for the lulz or because they're just bored. Even if KHUX did something as drastic as take away the rewards system, we'd still see this problem, sadly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiki 1 Posted June 9, 2016 I don't even really see the point in doing it for rankings. The rewards aren't even worth it and can earned easily enough. If I were to hack, it'd just be for more Jewels to get medals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deadpool 1,200 Posted June 9, 2016 SERIOUSLY? Just when I start putting in effort to come out on top... I was in spot 50 the other day before the hackers kicked in, ugh. 1 keyofdestiny reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximz 7 Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) its stupid! like i looked at top ten in vulpes yesterday and saw all top ten had just started had BASIC starting medals, only fought ONE RAID BOSS had insane amount of lux and there munny was like 999999999 w/e and they were lvl 250 with a basic starlight keyblade no upgrades....these are hackers its not the event! theres no way you can have all that lux and have only fought ONE RAID BOSS. personally i dont see the reasoning for this the benefits of ranking is kinda bland but its just sucks seeing all the hackers, its not gonna keep me away from the game since it doesnt effect me its just sad to see people hacking the game rather than actually enjoying it. Edited June 9, 2016 by Maximz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catmaster0116 2,676 Posted June 9, 2016 How does one hack an online game? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted June 10, 2016 It sucks because this week rewards include chip and dales which aren't exactly handed out... 2 Maximz and Lights_Guardian reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowKeyblade 219 Posted June 10, 2016 This is a common thing for online games, to the point where I kinda don't even see the point in complaining. Where there are rankings, there will be hackers, as much as it sucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximz 7 Posted June 10, 2016 How does one hack an online game? majority of online games are hacked and normally with some sort of thirdparty program that edits something in this case they seem to edit their profile and have it appear to be extremely OP and then the server receives information and kicks it back and boom now they have all the lux and munny.... It sucks because this week rewards include chip and dales which aren't exactly handed out... very true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RikuFangirl2008 1,368 Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) And they just temporarily suspend us to get rid of those big palookas.... How do you report them? Edited June 10, 2016 by RikuFangirl2008 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catmaster0116 2,676 Posted June 10, 2016 majority of online games are hacked and normally with some sort of thirdparty program that edits something in this case they seem to edit their profile and have it appear to be extremely OP and then the server receives information and kicks it back and boom now they have all the lux and munny.... Ouch. I did not know something like that existed. I also hear that the prime offenders are Vulpeus too. Gives me mixed feeling about being in Vulpeus. With that said hacking to gain infinite money and lux takes the fun out of things. But so does having to wait several hours for AP to replenish (depending on how much AP you have). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximz 7 Posted June 10, 2016 Ouch. I did not know something like that existed. I also hear that the prime offenders are Vulpeus too. Gives me mixed feeling about being in Vulpeus. With that said hacking to gain infinite money and lux takes the fun out of things. But so does having to wait several hours for AP to replenish (depending on how much AP you have). to be fair, it seems to be suspect in every clan but vulpes is the most noticeable because the people that do it seem to just out rank the other factions.... because there are alot of em and it feels like its the default for hackers to chose not sure why my guess would be because vulpes is one of the more talked bout soooooo join the one that has the most people, hack, and try to blend ...maybe thats the mentality? idk im not gonna try to butter it up LOLeh... i mean i have 122 ap when i get annoyed with waiting for jewels i either switch to my other account and play for a bit then play another game, or i use the 100 jewels from the daily draw.....which i hate to do soooooooooo =/ LOL i miss the half ap because it made the game last longer than like 3 daily missions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catmaster0116 2,676 Posted June 10, 2016 to be fair, it seems to be suspect in every clan but vulpes is the most noticeable because the people that do it seem to just out rank the other factions.... because there are alot of em and it feels like its the default for hackers to chose not sure why my guess would be because vulpes is one of the more talked bout soooooo join the one that has the most people, hack, and try to blend ...maybe thats the mentality? idk im not gonna try to butter it up LOLeh... i mean i have 122 ap when i get annoyed with waiting for jewels i either switch to my other account and play for a bit then play another game, or i use the 100 jewels from the daily draw.....which i hate to do soooooooooo =/ LOL i miss the half ap because it made the game last longer than like 3 daily missions Yep. These days it feels like I end up playing for 2 or 3 missions and then have to wait 3 hours+ since I have 74 AP atm. Gosh 122 AP...that means you'd have to wait 6 hrs to fully replenish from 0. Yikes I hope Square Enix gives people an AP regen haste ability for those people with lots of AP. Imagine having more than 480 AP? That'd mean you'd have to wait 24 hrs for AP to restore without using up jewels or levelling up lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiki 1 Posted June 10, 2016 (edited) Ouch. I did not know something like that existed. I also hear that the prime offenders are Vulpeus too. Gives me mixed feeling about being in Vulpeus. With that said hacking to gain infinite money and lux takes the fun out of things. But so does having to wait several hours for AP to replenish (depending on how much AP you have). Anguis' Top 10 is nothing but hackers as well. Though at least by appearances, this only holds true for solo ranks at the moment. Only a couple of the Party ranks look to be hackers. EDIT: scratch that. Seems Square is handling it. Just checked and only first place is a hacker in Anquis. Edited June 10, 2016 by Seiki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximz 7 Posted June 10, 2016 Anguis' Top 10 is nothing but hackers as well. Though at least by appearances, this only holds true for solo ranks at the moment. Only a couple of the Party ranks look to be hackers. EDIT: scratch that. Seems Square is handling it. Just checked and only first place is a hacker in Anquis. yea SE seems to be handling it, just checked vulpes 1st place seems to still be the hacker, but all the other hackers are no longer in top 10....however i still question how people get 15mil lux in such short periods of time ..i guess the actual answer would be money + event raid boss =/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soul_Seeker 753 Posted June 10, 2016 Surprise, surprise. Hackers in a competitive game like Unchained X. Although the hackers may be ruining it for everyone else, it's really Square Enix's responsibility to deal with them so...they're going to have to find a way to patch that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catmaster0116 2,676 Posted June 10, 2016 yea SE seems to be handling it, just checked vulpes 1st place seems to still be the hacker, but all the other hackers are no longer in top 10....however i still question how people get 15mil lux in such short periods of time ..i guess the actual answer would be money + event raid boss =/ what do you mean? are they giving out warnings to hackers? Or just banning their accounts altogether? Does money buy lux? I guess the way Square Enix has KHX set up is eventually if you max out your AP enough you would have to resort to buying jewels to replenish the AP rather than waiting long periods of time. Although I still can not understand how powerful some players can become like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=632TRC1knDc at 3:27, person deals 3 hit combo each worth 23k damage...thats Insane... I still struggle trying to deal a strike that is 3k Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximz 7 Posted June 10, 2016 what do you mean? are they giving out warnings to hackers? Or just banning their accounts altogether? Does money buy lux? I guess the way Square Enix has KHX set up is eventually if you max out your AP enough you would have to resort to buying jewels to replenish the AP rather than waiting long periods of time. Although I still can not understand how powerful some players can become like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=632TRC1knDc at 3:27, person deals 3 hit combo each worth 23k damage...thats Insane... I still struggle trying to deal a strike that is 3k i mean it looks like they are banning accounts because all the top ten accounts with the exception of rank 1 are all gone. also no what i meant was, money buys jewels in which case jewels can be used to refill ap. so basically im saying people are doing the raid boss during prime time and spamming it till they deplete all their ap and then refill it with the jewels they bought with money...thus they keep spending more money just to continue to spawn the raid boss so that they can get alot of lux. sooooooo in essences i answered my own rhetorical question.... as far as the damage in the video goes.... first of all thats the japanese version and medals differ than NA version, also the keyblades are of higher upgrade than what we currently have. second the dmg hes doing is because of all the BUFF and DEBUFF medals Sora and pals in the japanese version of the game: is an area of effect ability that restores some of the user's HP and raises attack power by one tier for 1 turn. This is an increase of approximately 25% to damage to all subsequent medals. KH2 Kairi : is a single target ability that raises damage from the user's Speed attacks by two steps. This is an increase of approximately 50% to damage. Strength Boost S II has a gauge cost of 3. Vivi : is a single target ability that raises attack power by one tier for 1 turn. This is an increase of approximately 25% to damage to all subsequent medals. Strength Boost has a gauge cost of 2. sora donald and goofy : is "Rapid Storm" which is an area of effect ability that reduces the enemy's defense by 1 step and has a gauge cost of 2. Marluxia : is just a damage dealing medal which is also getting the benefit from the kairi medal buff along with all the other buffs and debuffs Cloud illustrated version : which does Cross Slash which is a single target ability that reduces the target's defense against Power attacks by 1 step for 1 turn, then deals heavy damage (which cloud is a power attack medal sooooo it gains the benefit of the debuff) sooooooo two defense de-buffs and 3 attack buffs and 1 damage medal you can read up more on the NA and JPN medals here : KHUnchained Medals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites