Vulpeus is the Traitor?

[Lupe Generious 9]

Hello Community, 

I actually was kinda passive all these years with you guys. 
But throughout the last two years, my heart was returning.

Anyways, I have a topic to make.



The Clues:

- the missing page
- Ephemera and Ava (Vulpeus) talking to each other on the well
- Ephemera litterally could mean "Page" *
- Vulpeus acting weirdley in some scenes in the new trailer, like guilty
- The colour matches a pretty common pattern (pink could possibly mean tragedy, or naiveté)
- Pink Also connects to Marluxia, who was also a traitor in Re:CoM (But that is a bit interpretive)
- Betrayal out of Naiveté is totally possible for Vulpeus
- As for Aced (Ursus) it would be a too obvious choice
- Also Aced seems to think Gula (Leopardus) is the traitor

*as I read, the word was used in ancient Greece to describe "Something that lasts for a short while" like a letter, or ticket.

 

Edited June 11, 2016 by Lupe Generious

[Oli 1,679]

I actually had a conversation about this yesterday with Jun (you can read it here http://kh13.com/forum/statuses/user/44135-taco-dad/?status_id=231959)

 

But basically, we thought Master Ava (Vulpeus lider) was the traitor because we know little about any other foreteller plans but we know what Master Ava wants, and maybe, to the Foretellers eyes, she could be the traitor.

 

As a side note, I enjoyed that conversation because we didn't base our suppositions on symbolic things, like the colors of the Foreteller's robes or that rebirth "theory".

[AzureAce 544]

To counteract some of your points:

 

1. The missing page? So what? That isn't down to just Ava, all Foretellers can be cast under this category.

2. They talk to each other well because Ephemera wants to know the secrets of the Book of Prophecies.

3. Ephemera means: "Something that lasts for a short while." 

4. I don't get how she is acting guilty, she is worried as hell because she watched Aced strike down Gula and most likely saw Aced and Invi fighting.

 

In fact, I doubt it's Ava because she is actively fighting against the Keyblade War by assembling Keyblade Wielders to be her Dandelions to live beyond the Keyblade War.

[Lupe Generious 9]

1. Ephemera is Talking to Master Ava, a Foreteller, about it. So She is imo the most efficient way to get information.2. Okay, your point.3. Yes it does. But as I read, the word was used in ancient Greece to describe "Something that lasts for a short while" like a letter, or ticket.4. I was meaning wen they were talking on the round table. Before Gula was getting attacked. They also talk about traitor at the table.if she is the traitor, then i don't think she is it intentionally. Or she is it on intentionally but with massive impact on the KH universe as a whole. Which would be fine, since she is related to Kairi so much, that it would only be fair to give her the role of an unintentionally traitor.

Edited June 9, 2016 by Lupe Generious

[DoDo4869 301]

Well i don't know.... Ava actually seems like the one who is not the traitor, because it seems like she cares for everything that happens. To me it really looks like she wants to prevent everything and even tries to save the light by sending Keyblade wielders to  the outside world.

 

I think that Ira (Unicornis) isn't the traitor either, because he seems so concerned about the "event" which happened but isn't in the book of prophecies, i kinda doubt that he is the traitor.

 

As for Gula ( Leopardus) i don't really know... but he acts so nervous while fighting with Ursus, i also doubt that he is the Traitor.

 

Aced seem quite too obvious i think, maybe he just wants to find the traitor and is accusing everybody? i don't know^^

 

Actually we don't know much about Invi (Anguis), maybe she's the Traitor?

 

Or maybe there isn't even a traitor, but the guy in the black coat is manipulating everything?

 

 

Hm... Guess we have to wait a bit to solve this

Edited June 9, 2016 by dodo laguro

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

I don't think we have nearly enough information to name the traitor. Hell, Ava is the only Foreteller who we have seen actually seen productively trying to prevent the end of the world.

[Lupe Generious 9]

Really like all your Opinions on that.About Invi, yes she is a mystery to this point. Of course, we are running short on information.maybe we just wait a couple of months and everything will be lifted. Remember, that all the pieces lie where they fell.

[Komali 594]

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that.

 

Ava seems to care for the world and its safety. But the other foretellers are turning step by step against another and she would probably do everything to prevent the war from happening. In fact she is a good person but she betrays the other masters by stealing certain pages from the book of prophecies in order to change destiny.

 

Gula also acts suspicious and afaik his keychain seems to be on the chess board from the KH3 trailer. But that's just speculation.

[Lupe Generious 9]

Gula is also very suspicious, I agree. it could possibly be, that there is more than one traitor. also, this was the case before. back in Re:com, Marluxia and Larxene were both the traitors to the organization. (and was'nt marluxia supposed to be a female in the first place? Just think about it...)And the colour scheme could possibly also match. Maybe they are connected. I love Speculation... 

[gosoxtim 52]

or there could np trsilot at all and this whole plane to there where was made by the black coat guy

[Valhite 168]

I don't believe that there is a traitor. The black coated guy might only manipulating them so they start to accuse one another, and then they fight. What's the easiest way for one man to destroy an entire community? Destroy it from inside

[Lupe Generious 9]

I'm quoting myself now from another topicMAYBE SPOILERSSo to be clear, the destruction i can see. but it comes clearly from "the masters teachings" because the reincarnation, which is ansem the wise, still did not learned a thingI think, and I Did not start writing about this anywhere else, that There is a 6th and a 7th "Foreteller", which Are Eraqus and Xehanort (in Disguise) Send by Ansem the Wise, who is the Master of Masters, .... cuz he's the Brain ya know... tricking the "Feeling" Foretellers into something with his other 2 Students. he did not yet know, that there were other ways. he was only experimenting on his own students. Until he got tricked himself in KH2.And try to contain balance. But something went Wrong, and Ansem needs to clear his conscious with sora and riku, who need to work together to contain balance. and yes, indeed eraqus and xehanort are there to contain balance too, but the rivalry behind xehanorts side is a bit too overwhelming probably. as it was with riku in KH1 but we know that riku will be fine now... right? maybe we get a berserking sora. who knows. anyways, all the other people are just fractured hearts. I think that even Ansem the Wise made certain of his. Xehanort was trying to capture both Ansems and the Foretellers, and Soras (eraqus) Nobodys in KH2. because the game was not over. eraqus was a sly fox and also choose to reincarnate in some way or another.So in the end, now I think multiple traitors for multiple reasons are possible. But the "Book"traitor is in my opinion Ava.

Edited June 13, 2016 by Lupe Generious

[Ventus-Skuld-Ephemera4Ever 3]

You know... Tetsuya Nomura said in an interview: the man in the black coat is the "Master of Masters". (http://www.khdestiny.fr/news-1550-KH-HD-28-FCP-Interviews-de-Nomura-et-Yasue-E3-2016.html#4-nomura-famitsu) yeah, I know it's in french... but it's a proof!

So, he can't be the 6th foreteller! (I think)

[Ventus-Skuld-Ephemera4Ever 3]

Conclusion, Vulpes isn't the traitor because she found the traitor, Luxu, alias the 6th apprentice.