garcia.andrew91@hotmail.com 5 Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) My theory is that there are two seperate timelines in Kingdom Hearts, one with Young Xehanort corrupting time, and the other another way. You see, Roxas looked so old in Kingdom Hearts 1 FM Secret Ending, because this might of been Ventus nobody, basically Ventus joining Org 13, it would be the only logical explanation. You see, the deleted content from these games might of been the timeline before hand. In the Kingdom Hearts 1 Beta Footage, It says Save Sora, and we have to protect him and such. There has to be meaning to that, it is because Sora read Xehanorts Secret Research and began to repeat the similar trails leading him to timetravel to BBS Timeline. There, we see Sora coming at the end, The Mysterious Figure in Kingdom Hearts 2 Secret Ending. The Blue Lightsaber Wielder is Sora. Either he has to time travel to fix things, or something else. But, clearly there is something interesting here. Edited February 1, 2016 by Andres Gabriel Garcia Lucero 1 KHUndertaleFan25 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KHUndertaleFan25 2,858 Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Wait a minute, that almost looks like Sora in the picture. But I know that's not true. Or is it? Oh wait, i'm an idiot. I think i read it too fast to see that you said Sora's name. Sorry . Edited February 1, 2016 by PrincessHearts25 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garcia.andrew91@hotmail.com 5 Posted February 1, 2016 I have a lot more to discuss, like Sora being also The Creator of The Fortellers. Xehanorts name rearranged is Aethon, which is a name reconstructed from Greek Mythology, an epithet for Aither, Aither often wrestles with a Lion Diety, and this would be Sora, because his concept form was actually a Lion Human. Here we have the Ram, Leopard, Snake, Bear, Wolf, Unicorn, and Lion 1 AlixtheMagi13 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KHUndertaleFan25 2,858 Posted February 1, 2016 I have a lot more to discuss, like Sora being also The Creator of The Fortellers. Xehanorts name rearranged is Aethon, which is a name reconstructed from Greek Mythology, an epithet for Aither, Aither often wrestles with a Lion Diety, and this would be Sora, because his concept form was actually a Lion Human. Here we have the Ram, Leopard, Snake, Bear, Wolf, Unicorn, and LionThis makes so much sense. Wow... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garcia.andrew91@hotmail.com 5 Posted February 1, 2016 Yet, no one really notices some of these details... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted February 1, 2016 Umm.. okay, neat theory but1. It's been confirmed that Ventus is the nobody of both Sora and Ventus and that he looks more like Ventus becasue he carried that heart and the heart shapes the vessel.2. It's also been confirmed that the MF from BbS Is in fact Young Xehanort3. Those lines where from when KH 2 was just a concept, before the story was fully formed. They tried to make them fit as much as possible (it was even stated that doing so proved to be difficult "we had a hard time finding where to put them" where the exact words) so some just go left out because they couldn't find a place to put them in KH2. It could also be argued that, while the line wasn't spoken, the part about "We have to save Sora" has a;ready been fulfilled in 3D. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valhite 168 Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) I had made a thread about that picture by the way. Many users here told me that picture was a 'PlaceHolder' for Xehanort, because back then, SE didn't have Xehanort's design yet. That's why they used an unknown model. First time I saw that picture myself I was pretty confused about why there was no one talking about that strange figure there (As far as I know back then). So yeah, KH can be confusing and irritating sometimes. The amount of mystery that haven't been solved is abnormal. Too many mystery Edited February 1, 2016 by Valhite Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeybladeLordCheeseCurd 1,542 Posted February 1, 2016 Okay, first off, Roxas is Sora's Nobody with Ven's heart. Two, the Mysterious Figure from BBS was confirmed to be Young Xehanort. Four....no, Three, that picture is just an unfinished concept for Master Xehanort. Four, most of the lines in the secret endings of KH1 and 2 were also just concepts that the developers tried to fit in to the game. Five, Sora creating the Foretellers? That just sounds crazy. And SIX, you can't change time and history in KH. Not. One. Bit. Seven, the "we gotta save Sora" thing was used in DDD. Not the actual line, though. And why the hell would Ventus join Organization XIII?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomHearts3 2,591 Posted February 1, 2016 Okay, you completely lost me. I couldn't follow what you were saying, but I will put it to you this way. There is one timeline. The person in the image you posted is NOT Sora. That's the KH2 secret episode for BbS; Sora would not be in it since he was little. Roxas looked like himself in KHFM secret episode, not old at all. Time travel has been explained by Young Xehanort. You leave your body behind, a version must be at where you are going, you can move forward according to time when you reach there, and you can't rewrite fate to happen in the future. That is all. 1 AlixtheMagi13 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KHUndertaleFan25 2,858 Posted February 1, 2016 Oh. Well then. I can't believe I actually thought that Sora was the Mysterious Figure when I knew all along that it was Xehanort (I really knew. No lies.). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Headphone Jack 1,147 Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) i think when you base a theory off of old concept videos and art, it loses any trace of validity. Edited February 1, 2016 by Headphone Jack Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Komali 594 Posted February 1, 2016 It's easy. Nobodies are just different versions of the original person from a different timeline. That means: Roxas = Ventus from a different timeline. Considering the rules of time travel a person loses it's body during this process and is only allowed to travel forward or backward. But since Roxas didn't travel forward or backward, but from timeline to timeline, the rule of losing his body isn't applied, but instead he loses his heart. The other restrictions (different version of himself must wait at the destination => Ventus! / the person loses his memories) are valid. (lol) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) 3,859 Posted February 1, 2016 Let's be honest, it is a very neat theory, and very good. However, we all know it is highly imposible Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garcia.andrew91@hotmail.com 5 Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) No, no I understand this all completely. I am not basing anything on what it is now, I am basing it on what it could of been. I believe Normura created these concepts for a reason, seriously, what if Sora timetravels in KH3... That picture yes...it is a concept for Xehanort, but it really mirrors Soras features a lot. There seems to be a connection there, as well as the monster defeated at the begining of KH2 Secret Ending, it was cut. But what if... That is what interests me dearly. I want to put all lost concepts and put it into a fan manga. I always enjoy alternate storylines of plots. Let's be honest, it is a very neat theory, and very good. However, we all know it is highly imposible Anything is possible with Kingdom Hearts come on now. First rule of literature of writing to me is never dismiss hints and secrets, and say they are useless, everything has meaning. Lol Edited February 3, 2016 by Shana09 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomHearts3 2,591 Posted February 2, 2016 No, no I understand this all completely. I am not basing anything on what it is now, I am basing it on what it could of been. I believe Normura created these concepts for a reason, seriously, what if Sora timetravels in KH3... That picture yes...it is a concept for Xehanort, but it really mirrors Soras features a lot. There seems to be a connection there, as well as the monster defeated at the begining of KH2 Secret Ending, it was cut. But what if... That is what interests me dearly.I want to put all lost concepts and put it into a fan manga. I always enjoy alternate storylines of plots. Oh so that is what you are doing! A fan manga! Well go for it! If you like keeping these lost concepts and possible alternate stories, then go and make your manga! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smithee 327 Posted February 3, 2016 My theory about the time-travel in DDD: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
garcia.andrew91@hotmail.com 5 Posted February 10, 2016 Who wants to help me brainstorm? I almost feel Sora in my story is similar to Trunks, going back in time to warn about Master Xehanort. Maybe, Sora did the same thing Xehanort did, and walked towards them before Xehanort even showed up. Also, what would explain the capes on them? And the monster behind Terra? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites