Tails 6,692 Posted January 11, 2016 I mean, this is surprising for a Metal Gear Solid game but MGS5: TPP is my least favorite game in the Metal Gear series for a few good reasons. Well, for one, the story is not as great or emotional as the stories of previous MGS games. This is a huge surprise to see that a MGS game have a lackluster storyline since all the other games in the series had a good story. It really felt like the story was just completely rushed to me (and I'm pretty sure that's not Kojima's fault given Konami's recent treatment with him). No only does the game's story feel rushed, it's also incomplete. Yup, there's hidden data in the game that has data of Chapter 3 in it. Which means that the game was originally going to get a third chapter. But for whatever reason, it got removed or cancelled. Also I know this is my personal opinion but I kinda hate the who "Venom Snake" plot that they used for this game. I feel like this should have been about the real Big Boss and not just some random character who mentally think's he's Big Boss (except for the robotic arm. Glad Big Boss didn't actually get that). Also it really makes wonder just what the heck Big Boss was doing while his phantom was running around pretending to be him. There's another thing that I am disappointed with Phantom Pain. and that is its missions and open world. OK so in the trailers back when the game wasn;t out yet, the open world looked really good and it seemed like that it would really be an interesting concept to see a MGS game to have some open world. But it turns out that their "open world" is not all that great. The entire "open world" stages in the game are just sandbox areas with hardly any life outside of enemy soldiers and a few animals. I mean seriously! The open world just feels lifeless for the most part. Also I have a HUGE problem with the missions in Phantom Pain. Well...the side missions to be more precise. The side missions are super repetitive. You pretty much do the same missions again and again with a few tweaks here and there. It's really repetitive. They should have made the side missions more unique and different because they are pretty much the same missions did you did already. Heck, even Peace Walker had better side missions than this, and that was a PSP game. So yeah, those are my two cents on why i find this game to be a bit disappointing. This game is not completely horrible but it's really disappointing and not as good as previous MGS games. I honestly think that all the reviewers should not have given this game a 10/10 because it does not feel like a 10/10 game to me. But hey, it's MGS so even the name alone makes it a 10/10 game, am I right reviewers? 2 Joker and Dio Brando reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 11, 2016 I've heard a lot of people are disappointed with the story but the gameplay is the best in the series. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalebninja 188 Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) The thing about reviewers who gave it a 10/10 they werent biased towards the previous entries in the series, you dont review a game based off of other games you do it based on what the game provides. The world felt correct for its setting only thing for me is that Afrika should've had more animals. Also about Venom snake i dont know why everyone keeps calling his identity random because he is actually the big boss who is killed in mgs 1 while the real big boss is the one we play as in 4. Edited January 11, 2016 by Kalebninja almighty 1 The Deathdealer reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 5,571 Posted January 11, 2016 Rob knew that there weren't going to be 30 minutes cutscenes in game. When he finally got into it, he realized how much he missed it. To Rob, it just wasn't a Kojima game even though Kojima wanted that for his final MGS game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soravids 1,056 Posted January 11, 2016 I mean, this is surprising for a Metal Gear Solid game but MGS5: TPP is my least favorite game in the Metal Gear series for a few good reasons. Well, for one, the story is not as great or emotional as the stories of previous MGS games. This is a huge surprise to see that a MGS game have a lackluster storyline since all the other games in the series had a good story. It really felt like the story was just completely rushed to me (and I'm pretty sure that's not Kojima's fault given Konami's recent treatment with him). No only does the game's story feel rushed, it's also incomplete. Yup, there's hidden data in the game that has data of Chapter 3 in it. Which means that the game was originally going to get a third chapter. But for whatever reason, it got removed or cancelled. Also I know this is my personal opinion but I kinda hate the who "Venom Snake" plot that they used for this game. I feel like this should have been about the real Big Boss and not just some random character who mentally think's he's Big Boss (except for the robotic arm. Glad Big Boss didn't actually get that). Also it really makes wonder just what the heck Big Boss was doing while his phantom was running around pretending to be him. There's another thing that I am disappointed with Phantom Pain. and that is its missions and open world. OK so in the trailers back when the game wasn;t out yet, the open world looked really good and it seemed like that it would really be an interesting concept to see a MGS game to have some open world. But it turns out that their "open world" is not all that great. The entire "open world" stages in the game are just sandbox areas with hardly any life outside of enemy soldiers and a few animals. I mean seriously! The open world just feels lifeless for the most part. Also I have a HUGE problem with the missions in Phantom Pain. Well...the side missions to be more precise. The side missions are super repetitive. You pretty much do the same missions again and again with a few tweaks here and there. It's really repetitive. They should have made the side missions more unique and different because they are pretty much the same missions did you did already. Heck, even Peace Walker had better side missions than this, and that was a PSP game. So yeah, those are my two cents on why i find this game to be a bit disappointing. This game is not completely horrible but it's really disappointing and not as good as previous MGS games. I honestly think that all the reviewers should not have given this game a 10/10 because it does not feel like a 10/10 game to me. But hey, it's MGS so even the name alone makes it a 10/10 game, am I right reviewers? Man I agree totally. The trailers made it look so much better than it was. I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as other MGS games. I've heard a lot of people are disappointed with the story but the gameplay is the best in the series. Well that's up for debate I guess. The gameplay was really great, but I could almost argue that MGS4 might have been better thought out. Also the good gameplay doesn't mean anything when the game can't give you any good missions to use it on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 11, 2016 Man I agree totally. The trailers made it look so much better than it was. I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as other MGS games. Well that's up for debate I guess. The gameplay was really great, but I could almost argue that MGS4 might have been better thought out. Also the good gameplay doesn't mean anything when the game can't give you any good missions to use it on. Just saying what I heard. Never played a Konami game. 1 Soravids reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soravids 1,056 Posted January 11, 2016 Just saying what I heard. Never played a Konami game. Play MGS4 bruh. Me and Everglow both love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 11, 2016 Play MGS4 bruh. Me and Everglow both love it. No, that's like the worst one to play first considering it's the like final one in the timeline. Lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soravids 1,056 Posted January 11, 2016 No, that's like the worst one to play first considering it's the like final one in the timeline. Lol. True enough, but seriously dude. Play one! Lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) True enough, but seriously dude. Play one! Lol. No, I'm not going to play a Konami game. Edited January 11, 2016 by Sora96 1 Sorarocks93 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atheist123 583 Posted January 11, 2016 No, I'm not going to play a Konami game.Play Metal Gear Rising. It's a game developed by PlatinumGames not Konami but set in the Metal Gear universe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 11, 2016 Play Metal Gear Rising. It's a game developed by PlatinumGames not Konami but set in the Metal Gear universe. Tried the demo, wasn't for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingEggplant 116 Posted January 11, 2016 Play Metal Gear Rising. It's a game developed by PlatinumGames not Konami but set in the Metal Gear universe. Still published by Konami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dio Brando 5,810 Posted January 11, 2016 I mean, this is surprising for a Metal Gear Solid game but MGS5: TPP is my least favorite game in the Metal Gear series for a few good reasons. Well, for one, the story is not as great or emotional as the stories of previous MGS games. This is a huge surprise to see that a MGS game have a lackluster storyline since all the other games in the series had a good story. It really felt like the story was just completely rushed to me (and I'm pretty sure that's not Kojima's fault given Konami's recent treatment with him). No only does the game's story feel rushed, it's also incomplete. Yup, there's hidden data in the game that has data of Chapter 3 in it. Which means that the game was originally going to get a third chapter. But for whatever reason, it got removed or cancelled. Also I know this is my personal opinion but I kinda hate the who "Venom Snake" plot that they used for this game. I feel like this should have been about the real Big Boss and not just some random character who mentally think's he's Big Boss (except for the robotic arm. Glad Big Boss didn't actually get that). Also it really makes wonder just what the heck Big Boss was doing while his phantom was running around pretending to be him. There's another thing that I am disappointed with Phantom Pain. and that is its missions and open world. OK so in the trailers back when the game wasn;t out yet, the open world looked really good and it seemed like that it would really be an interesting concept to see a MGS game to have some open world. But it turns out that their "open world" is not all that great. The entire "open world" stages in the game are just sandbox areas with hardly any life outside of enemy soldiers and a few animals. I mean seriously! The open world just feels lifeless for the most part. Also I have a HUGE problem with the missions in Phantom Pain. Well...the side missions to be more precise. The side missions are super repetitive. You pretty much do the same missions again and again with a few tweaks here and there. It's really repetitive. They should have made the side missions more unique and different because they are pretty much the same missions did you did already. Heck, even Peace Walker had better side missions than this, and that was a PSP game. So yeah, those are my two cents on why i find this game to be a bit disappointing. This game is not completely horrible but it's really disappointing and not as good as previous MGS games. I honestly think that all the reviewers should not have given this game a 10/10 because it does not feel like a 10/10 game to me. But hey, it's MGS so even the name alone makes it a 10/10 game, am I right reviewers? Agreed I'll elaborate more on why I think MGS5 is so disappointing on a separate thread later but if I have to say something then I'll say this:MGS 5 is the most boring,rushed and most poorly written Metal Gear game I've ever played Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atheist123 583 Posted January 11, 2016 Still published by KonamiTrue, but developer is more important. You wouldn't call Bravely Default a Nintendo game since they published it in the U.S.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 11, 2016 True, but developer is more important. You wouldn't call Bravely Default a Nintendo game since they published it in the U.S.. Poor comparison. Kojima I'd assume was involved with MGR, while the producer of the Bravely series works for Square Enix. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atheist123 583 Posted January 11, 2016 Poor comparison. Kojima I'd assume was involved with MGR, while the producer of the Bravely series works for Square Enix.Yeah, Kojima was involved with the story. But Kojima == Konami. I guess the situation is more like Nier Automata. Platinum is doing all the work with some supervision from another company and the director of previous games in the series. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sorarocks93 678 Posted January 11, 2016 I just finished Mission 50 the other day. BTW there's spoilers below so proceed at your own risk. AGAIN, HEAVY SPOILERS BELOW SO DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED THE GAME (unless you don't care)!!! I loved the gameplay, truly. I can't even go back to previous games now that I've experienced this type of gameplay, it just seems weird. There's so much more that you can do in this one. And that's coming from someone who played the previous ones multiple times because I just couldn't get enough of the gameplay. As for the story, yeah it's not as much as the previous ones, but this showed me that Kojima can make a good game even without it having more cutscene time than gameplay. I found the story good. Most of the stuff is in cassette tapes anyway, in any case, I did get emotional for the most parts. Most notably the mission where the parasite infected the soldiers and Venom had to put them down. I watched some let's play vids, and most people started killing them (and getting a game over) as soon as the mission started. I didn't even know you would get a game over like that because I hesitated to shoot until there was absolute certainty that they couldn't be saved. And I was sad when it turned out that you couldn't save even a single one. That part for me was emotional. Second one was of course, Quiet's ending. It really sucked how she had to leave because of what happened. Infact I won't do the mission 7 times again to get her back just because I want to immerse myself in this. Sure, if it was part of the story I would do it, but it's not. I was sad about Venom's entire existence. Oh, and Kaz's too. Big Boss basically used them both to serve his own needs. He ruined Venom's entire life, stripped his entire identity. Kaz was basically left behind by his friend because he wanted to create his own army. And lastly, you could see Venom's anger in the end where he smashed the mirror. That part was actually supposed to be the original Metal Gear. You can see the Outer Heaven logo behind him. And the gunshots outside were because Solid Snake was there. Meaning that that's the day Venom died. He sacrificed everything because he was so loyal to BB. Kojima said he wanted to show how Big Boss went evil, and this was perfect. Couldn't get evil than that. Infact, I ain't even mad at Zero anymore because he obviously wanted what's best for BB. Anyway, I don't get why people are complaining about the character we use. I mean, it's a story, so what does it matter really. I feel like this was the perfect way to end the saga, the whole message behind it was that we are part of this franchise as much as Kojima is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tails 6,692 Posted January 11, 2016 I've heard a lot of people are disappointed with the story but the gameplay is the best in the series. Yeah the gameplay's good. Though I still think MGS4's gameplay is slightly better. Agreed I'll elaborate more on why I think MGS5 is so disappointing on a separate thread later but if I have to say something then I'll say this:MGS 5 is the most boring,rushed and most poorly written Metal Gear game I've ever played Yeah I agree with you. I really wonder why they didn't keep Chapter 3 in the game, though? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted January 12, 2016 The gameplay is pretty fun, though yeah the side missions can get a bit repetitive at times it's not as big of a deal to me, seeing as how they're side ops. The story so far (yeah I'm not done yet, nearly though), yeah it feels a little lacking, but it still feels good for the most part, it's just that you can feel that there was a lot that got left out, like a really great tasting cheese with lots and lots of holes in it. It only feels disappointing in the fact that you can tell there was supposed to be a whole lot more put into it. What's already there feels great and plays great, but yeah, you can tell that Konami rushed this game out of development as soon as they could, probably just so they could be done with Kojima even faster. It's such a shame when the end result is diminishing what was supposed to be Kojima's graceful departure from the Metal Gear franchise. They've always shown a greater amount of patience and cooperation with Kojima in the past, so the recent events of the last 2 years really are to blame for the problems that there are now. But in a sense, it's still a fun game, it just could have and should have been more fun. No, I'm not going to play a Konami game. Metal Gear will NEVER be a Konami game, not to fans anymore at least. At this point I'd rather just call them Kojima games...."sponsored" by Konami. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites