Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 Oh for the love of christ when did I ever say I hated the sequel, for christ's sake your level of assumptions about me are over 9000, I don't hate the sequel, in fact I'm glad they stalled on making KH3, FFXV, and the FF7 Remake for next gen the hardware in the PS3/360 is anemic, weak, and so incredibly old the games would have looked terribad, I actually like FFXIII, and FFXIII-2 while I don't think they are great, they are good regardless, but LR:FFXIII from a story standpoint I hate it, because they litterally make Lightning a Deus Ex Machina, Mary Sue, completely striping characters that were effected by the L'Cie curse of any meaning for them to just mope and wait for Lightning to save them, from a gameplay standpoint it is the best of the FFXIII series. Lol. They didn't stall. Nomura just didn't know what the heck he was going to do with Versus XIII, then he changed engines and then the dev kits came in. KH3 began development in 2010 but they were too busy making DDD to worry about it, by the time that was done the dev kits came in. They couldn't remake VII while Nomura, Nojima & Kitase were working on Versus XIII. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 Lol. They didn't stall. Nomura just didn't know what the heck he was going to do with Versus XIII, then he changed engines and then the dev kits came in. KH3 began development in 2010 but they were too busy making DDD to worry about it, by the time that was done the dev kits came in. They couldn't remake VII while Nomura, Nojima & Kitase were working on Versus XIII. Yes because that is why FF Versus XIII changed development, when they said it themselves, FF Versus can't be done on the last gen consoles, and it seems like you don't know what I mean by stalled, I mean they didn't decide to make the games on the last gen consoles, regardless of the circumstances it doesn't matter, they are being made on x86 current gen systems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 Yes because that is why FF Versus XIII changed development, when they said it themselves, FF Versus can't be done on the last gen consoles, and it seems like you don't know what I mean by stalled, I mean they didn't decide to make the games on the last gen consoles, regardless of the circumstances it doesn't matter, they are being made on x86 current gen systems. I'm more looking forward to the likely X-3 anyway. 1 Soul_Seeker reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 I should also point out that the former president of SE said that a FF7 Remake will be made if a FF game outsells FF7, FFXV was still being made by Nomura until Habata was given the reigns because , SE wanted Nomura to work on KH3 so that we can get the game in 2017-2018 as opposed to 2022-2023, and they heard about the new consoles in 2011 probably got the devkits in that time period to, so they definitely halted off on bringing both games to the last gen hardware. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soul_Seeker 753 Posted January 3, 2016 I'm more looking forward to the likely X-3 anyway. And, I quote: TORIYAMAAAAAAAA. I know your NDA forbids it, but after the time comes I'm expecting huge nukes to drop. And one of them will be X-3, I hope. X is my favorite mainline title along with its sequel(s). Then XIII comes at a close second with its sequel(s). I'm hyped for FFXV, but not as much as I would be for a X and/or XIII sequel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) I should also point out that the former president of SE said that a FF7 Remake will be made if a FF game outsells FF7, FFXV was still being made by Nomura until Habata was given the reigns because , SE wanted Nomura to work on KH3 so that we can get the game in 2017-2018 as opposed to 2022-2023, and they heard about the new consoles in 2011 probably got the devkits in that time period to, so they definitely halted off on bringing both games to the last gen hardware. Actually, he said exceeded the quality, not sales. And did any of the key FF staff agree with Wada on that? No. And no, they got the dev kits in mid 2012. They couldn't even worry about making KH3 until KH3D was done, which was when they got the dev kits. There was no halt, Tabata has even said since Versus XIII did not have a direction. And, I quote: TORIYAMAAAAAAAA. I know your NDA forbids it, but after the time comes I'm expecting huge nukes to drop. And one of them will be X-3, I hope. X is my favorite mainline title along with its sequel(s). Then XIII comes at a close second with its sequel(s). I'm hyped for FFXV, but not as much as I would be for a X and/or XIII sequel. XIII series is done mate, we're onto X-3! Edited January 3, 2016 by Sora96 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 Actually, he said exceeded the quality, not sales. And did any of the key FF staff agree with Wada on that? No. And no, they got the dev kits in mid 2012. They couldn't even worry about making KH3 until KH3D was done, which was when they got the dev kits. There was no halt, Tabata has even said since Versus XIII did not have a direction. XIII series is done mate, we're onto X-3! They knew what platform Versus was going to be on, and they had to halt because of the lack of well 1 direction, and 2. because new consoles were coming out, KH3 well was a result of the FFXV halting, stopping in their tracks whatever you want to call it to change the game development to different systems. "Due to the growing scale of the project, talks about changing Versus XIII into the next numbered entry in the series were appearing as early as 2007.[19] When Type-0, originally titled Final Fantasy Agito XIII, was renamed, and the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One were presented to Square Enix in 2011, it was decided to shift the game onto those consoles." I should also state that it was FFXV that was the reason Nomura couldn't work on KH3.. "In the Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Ultimania guide book, Nomura announced three upcoming titles, one of which was Kingdom Hearts III. However, Final Fantasy XV was still his primary focus, preventing him from starting production on Kingdom Hearts III." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_III https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Final_Fantasy_XV It was 2011 not 2012. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 They knew what platform Versus was going to be on, and they had to halt because of the lack of well 1 direction, and 2. because new consoles were coming out, KH3 well was a result of the FFXV halting, stopping in their tracks whatever you want to call it to change the game development to different systems. "Due to the growing scale of the project, talks about changing Versus XIII into the next numbered entry in the series were appearing as early as 2007.[19] When Type-0, originally titled Final Fantasy Agito XIII, was renamed, and the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One were presented to Square Enix in 2011, it was decided to shift the game onto those consoles." I should also state that it was FFXV that was the reason Nomura couldn't work on KH3.. "In the Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Ultimania guide book, Nomura announced three upcoming titles, one of which was Kingdom Hearts III. However, Final Fantasy XV was still his primary focus, preventing him from starting production on Kingdom Hearts III." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_III https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Final_Fantasy_XV It was 2011 not 2012. Nomura was still directing XV when KH3 was announced. Ask Tabata, he keeps saying 2012, when he joined the project. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) Nomura was still directing XV when KH3 was announced. Ask Tabata, he keeps saying 2012, when he joined the project. I'm not talking about when he joined the project,I'm talking about when SE were presented with the PS4/XBOX ONE SPECS in 2011. FFVS13 was going to be a PS4/Xbox One title regardless if Tabata joined or not. Nomura was still directing XV when KH3 was announced. Ask Tabata, he keeps saying 2012, when he joined the project. "For a time, a PlayStation 3 version continued development, but after a title change announcement could not be made in 2012, the shortening lifespan of the console caused concern for the company and team." after some trial and error, the PlayStation 3 was abandoned as lead platform in favor of a DirectX 11-based development structure Edited January 3, 2016 by Casper Formadi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 I'm not talking about when he joined the project,I'm talking about when SE were presented with the PS4/XBOX ONE SPECS in 2011. FFVS13 was going to be a PS4/Xbox One title regardless if Tabata joined or not. "For a time, a PlayStation 3 version continued development, but after a title change announcement could not be made in 2012, the shortening lifespan of the console caused concern for the company and team." after some trial and error, the PlayStation 3 was abandoned as lead platform in favor of a DirectX 11-based development structure Yes, and they got the dev kits in mid 2012. That's what Tabata said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 Yes, and they got the dev kits in mid 2012. That's what Tabata said. They would have known what the specs were before hand causing them to ditch development, when they got the devkits wouldn't be relevant to this situation, because they would A. know what the specs were before they get the devkits, and B. know when they would get the devkits themselves, also can you please provide a link to your claim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites