The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted January 3, 2016 Damn, I remember way back in 2006, when this game was announced as Final Fantasy Versus XIII, and I remember confusing Noctis for a gray haired Cloud! But yeah, it's been quite a long time coming for this game! I haven't followed its development closely, as I've been busy with the Kingdom Hearts series and many other video games I've been playing, so the wait hasn't felt long for me, ya know? I'm very excited for XV and I'm hoping to get it when it comes out! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 I'm actually afraid that the game will end up failing big time due to all the wait and hype the game is getting. considering the demo was well received I doubt that, It should at least be as good as FFX. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 considering the demo was well received I doubt that, It should at least be as good as FFX. I saw negative reviews. And how many played the demo? Not that many tbh. FFX is the second best selling game in Square Enix history and one of the greatest games of all time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 I saw negative reviews. And how many played the demo? Not that many tbh. FFX is the second best selling game in Square Enix history and one of the greatest games of all time. there are negative reviews of everything, regardless http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/932981-final-fantasy-xv/71418328 http://telkomgaming.co.za/final-fantasy-xv-episode-duscae-demo-review/ he gave it a 75/100 and this is Duscae 1.0 http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XV_Episode_Duscae#Reception From the looks of it here the reviews are pretty positive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 there are negative reviews of everything, regardless http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/932981-final-fantasy-xv/71418328 http://telkomgaming.co.za/final-fantasy-xv-episode-duscae-demo-review/ he gave it a 75/100 and this is Duscae 1.0 http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XV_Episode_Duscae#Reception From the looks of it here the reviews are pretty positive. Duscae 1.0 and 2.0 might as well be the same thing. Lol. Yeah, a couple of positive reviews mean a lot. A demo is only a small portion of a usually unfinished game. The hype has never been lower for a mainline FF game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 Duscae 1.0 and 2.0 might as well be the same thing. Lol. Yeah, a couple of positive reviews mean a lot. A demo is only a small portion of a usually unfinished game. The hype has never been lower for a mainline FF game. I definitely wouldn't call the hype low considering how long this game has been in development. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 I definitely wouldn't call the hype low considering how long this game has been in development. Hype's never been that big compared to other FF titles. Just ask Google. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 Hype's never been that big compared to other FF titles. Just ask Google. Or maybe you can give me an example Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 Or maybe you can give me an example Of? Check Google for searches regarding Versus XIII or FFXV. Compare it to Final Fantasy XIII. Compare it to Final Fantasy VII Remake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 Of? Check Google for searches regarding Versus XIII or FFXV. Compare it to Final Fantasy XIII. Compare it to Final Fantasy VII Remake. Are you seriously talking about google trends to dicate how much hype their is for a game, a lot of people when it comes to expressing hype go to youtube for that, or IGN, or gamestop? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 Are you seriously talking about google trends to dicate how much hype their is for a game, a lot of people when it comes to expressing hype go to youtube for that, or IGN, or gamestop? Yes, because IGN and GameStop are great representations with their millions of users Lol. Google is the most used website on the Internet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) Yes, because IGN and GameStop are great representations with their millions of users Lol. Google is the most used website on the Internet. Yes google is the most used site, but it's gamers that are going to hyped for a game you do know this right, what you are talking about is the broad scope, I'm talking about the audience gamers in general. Edited January 3, 2016 by Casper Formadi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 Yes google is the most used site, but it's gamers that are going to hyped for a game you do know this right Yes, and I used Google to compare them all and hype for Versus XIII/XV has never been that big compared to XIII, VII, X, etc. You can try to argue otherwise but this game will not sell as well as other mainline FF games. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 Yes, and I used Google to compare them all and hype for Versus XIII/XV has never been that big compared to XIII, VII, X, etc. You can try to argue otherwise but this game will not sell as well as other mainline FF games. If anything by that logic based on the amount of google searches Fantastic Four(2015) had more hype than Ant-Man, how the game sells will be based on the quality, and marketing, I'm not going to assume how well something is going to sell based on google searches or else Fantastic Four 2015 reboot should have made more money than Ant-Man, I should also point out that it is term sensitive. Hype for a game is generated from word of mouth, E3, youtubers, and other gaming outlets, you can't use google searches to determine that unless you want to tell me Final Fantasy XIII had more hype in 2015 than the Final Fantasy VII Remake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 If anything by that logic based on the amount of google searches Fantastic Four(2015) had more hype than Ant-Man, how the game sells will be based on the quality, and marketing, I'm not going to assume how well something is going to sell based on google searches or else Fantastic Four 2015 reboot should have made more money than Ant-Man, I should also point out that it is term sensitive. Hype for a game is generated from word of mouth, E3, youtubers, and other gaming outlets, you can't use google searches to determine that unless you want to tell me Final Fantasy XIII had more hype in 2015 than the Final Fantasy VII Remake That shows people were interested in Fantastic Four to see what it was like. Yes, which they aren't providing either. Lol. Hasn't been at E3 since 2013. Final Fantasy XIII always has hype. Bahahaha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) That shows people were interested in Fantastic Four to see what it was like. Yes, which they aren't providing either. Lol. Hasn't been at E3 since 2013. Final Fantasy XIII always has hype. Bahahaha. With the interest that didn't effect the movie from selling like Crap, and Ant-Man a movie with a lack of interest from selling much better, also I brought up E3 as an example for the broad of gaming news as a whole not just for FFXV, also I remember people saying to scrap FFXIII-2 considering the reaction from audiences of the first game were little bit dissapointed with the final product, and receptions were mixed for an example the PS3 score of FFXIII which claims the game is decent, , some siting it to be a bit too linear while a good game none the less, and alot of people wanted FF Versus XIII alot more than any FFXIII sequel, especially when FFXIII-2 came out which came to a decent reception from critics, and a decent to mixed reception from audience members, I should also point out any hype for Lightning Returns was destroyed when FFXV was announced for the PS4 and Xbox One, that is why both versions of LR:FFXIII failed to break 1 mil. As I said earlier and I will say again, google searches, youtube views on a trailer speaks nothing muxh of the hype or sales itself, if a game is marketed well, and has great quality it will sell, while I don't expect FFXV to make FFVII numbers, I do expect it to at least make more than the PS3 sales of FFXIII PS3 sales never said combined sales in total. That shows people were interested in Fantastic Four to see what it was like. Yes, which they aren't providing either. Lol. Hasn't been at E3 since 2013. Final Fantasy XIII always has hype. Bahahaha. I should also point out no one was actually hyped for what the Fantastic Four was like, the only thing they wanted to see out of that mess was the rights given back to Marvel, I was literally on anti-hype Edited January 3, 2016 by Casper Formadi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) With the interest that didn't effect the movie from selling like Crap, and Ant-Man a movie with a lack of interest from selling much better, also I brought up E3 as an example for the broad of gaming news as a whole not just for FFXV, also I remember people saying to scrap FFXIII-2 considering the reaction from audiences of the first game were little bit dissapointed with the final product, and receptions were mixed for an example the PS3 score of FFXIII which claims the game is decent, , some siting it to be a bit too linear while a good game none the less, and alot of people wanted FF Versus XIII alot more than any FFXIII sequel, especially when FFXIII-2 came out which came to a decent reception from critics, and a decent to mixed reception from audience members, I should also point out any hype for Lightning Returns was destroyed when FFXV was announced for the PS4 and Xbox One, that is why both versions of LR:FFXIII failed to break 1 mil. As I said earlier and I will say again, google searches, youtube views on a trailer speaks nothing muxh of the hype or sales itself, if a game is marketed well, and has great quality it will sell, while I don't expect FFXV to make FFVII numbers, I do expect it to at least make more than the PS3 sales of FFXIII PS3 sales never said combined sales in total. I should also point out no one was actually hyped for what the Fantastic Four was like, the only thing they wanted to see out of that mess was the rights given back to Marvel, I was literally on anti-hype LOL. XIII and XIII-2 were critically acclaimed in Japan. Square Enix didn't even ship that many copies for Lightning Returns. XV sell 5 million? Maybe. But you aren't going to reach XIII's 7.1+ million, VIII's 9 million, X-2's 7-9 million or X's 9-11 million. Edited January 3, 2016 by Sora96 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake 1,488 Posted January 3, 2016 I saw negative reviews. And how many played the demo? Not that many tbh. FFX is the second best selling game in Square Enix history and one of the greatest games of all time. The demo was alright, though I thought the game still had long ways to go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 LOL. XIII and XIII-2 were critically acclaimed in Japan. Square Enix didn't even ship that many copies for Lightning Returns. XV sell 5 million? Maybe. But you aren't going to reach XIII's 7.1 million, VIII's 9 million, X-2's 7-9 million or X's 9-11 million. XIII-2, and XIII were decently received to mix FROM AN AUDIENCE STANDPOINT, Oh so Square didn't market LR: FFXIII well shows how much hype their was for that game then, when you have a high selling product, you ship to meet demands, to gain more cash in the end, so I guess the demand wasn't that high for LR:FFXIII even though the game had a much more mixed to somewhat decent reception with critics AROUND THE WORLD, than the previous installments, so I can understand why SE would want to push that out the gate, so they can focus on FFXV. FFXV reaching FFXIII wouldn't be something that would be impossible to achieve, if FFXIII stayed it's course of being a PS3 exclusive it wouldn't have broke 7 mil, it probably would have just made 5 million, just like how I predict FFXV will make AT LEAST, if the game is critically acclaimed from both an audience, and critical standpoint AROUND THE WORLD, and the marketing is good then it could break FFXIII's 7.1 million console sales, considering it is facing similar circumstance of being on two platforms, even though I wouldn't be suprised if FFXV stated it's course of being a PlayStation exclusive it would beat FFXIII if it continued it's course of being a PlayStation 3 exclusive Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) XIII-2, and XIII were decently received to mix FROM AN AUDIENCE STANDPOINT, Oh so Square didn't market LR: FFXIII well shows how much hype their was for that game then, when you have a high selling product, you ship to meet demands, to gain more cash in the end, so I guess the demand wasn't that high for LR:FFXIII even though the game had a much more mixed to somewhat decent reception with critics AROUND THE WORLD, than the previous installments, so I can understand why SE would want to push that out the gate, so they can focus on FFXV. FFXV reaching FFXIII wouldn't be something that would be impossible to achieve, if FFXIII stayed it's course of being a PS3 exclusive it wouldn't have broke 7 mil, it probably would have just made 5 million, just like how I predict FFXV will make AT LEAST, if the game is critically acclaimed from both an audience, and critical standpoint AROUND THE WORLD, and the marketing is good then it could break FFXIII's 7.1 million console sales, considering it is facing similar circumstance of being on two platforms, even though I wouldn't be suprised if FFXV stated it's course of being a PlayStation exclusive it would beat FFXIII if it continued it's course of being a PlayStation 3 exclusive All I hear from Square Enix is acclaimed, hugely successful for the XIII series. And the guys who made it make up half of the Final Fantasy Committee. And it just keeps printing money for them. Haha. Good luck with your prediction. Lol. Edited January 3, 2016 by Sora96 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 All I hear from Square Enix is acclaimed, hugely successful for the XIII series. And it just keeps printing money for them. Haha. Good luck with your prediction. Lol. FFXIII was the most successful one, they hype train and sales were going down hill from that point on, if FFXIII was actually a gravy train then as a whole it wouldn't make a abysmal sales it did, then the gravy train ran out of steam, so they had to pump out the obligatory last game in the trilogy as fast as they could, so they can work on FFXV, and KH3 which are much better projects that are worth more of their time to do so, then continuously make FFXIII games, because if that was the case then FFXIII-4 would be a thing, but since you obviously know the ending of LR:FFXIII that wouldn't be the case. As I don't actually care about FFXV selling or outselling FFXIII, I just want it to be a great game, because if it's not and it ends up like Duke Nukem Forever(god forbid), then I wouldn't want it on my Future-AM4/Zen based Gaming Rig Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 FFXIII was the most successful one, they hype train and sales were going down hill from that point on, if FFXIII was actually a gravy train then as a whole it wouldn't make a abysmal sales it did, then the gravy train ran out of steam, so they had to pump out the obligatory last game in the trilogy as fast as they could, so they can work on FFXV, and KH3 which are much better projects that are worth more of their time to do so, then continuously make FFXIII games, because if that was the case then FFXIII-4 would be a thing, but since you obviously know the ending of LR:FFXIII that wouldn't be the case. As I don't actually care about FFXV selling or outselling FFXIII, I just want it to be a great game, because if it's not and it ends up like Duke Nukem Forever(god forbid), then I wouldn't want it on my Future-AM4/Zen based Gaming Rig Please, even X-2 sold 2 million less than X and it has still sold 7-9 million. If you knew anything about Square Enix's development structure you'd know the XIII sequels, XV and KH3 have nothing to do with each other. Here's a nice detailed look: http://kh13.com/forum/topic/84485-square-enix-business-divisions/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 Please, even X-2 sold 2 million less than X and it has still sold 7-9 million. If you knew anything about Square Enix's development structure you'd know the XIII sequels, XV and KH3 have nothing to do with each other. Here's a nice detailed look: http://kh13.com/forum/topic/84485-square-enix-business-divisions/ Yet all draw from the same money pool that is Square Enix yes they have several divisions to make games with, but they all draw their budget from Square Enix, a budget which could go to something else like an FFVII Remake, KH3, or FFXV, oh and I should have also said FFVII Remake, I should also add their are a myriad of reasons X-2 sold less than X, it's simple it wasn't as well received by audiences as the first one, while not outright terrible it was a dissapointment to say the least(Metacritic auidence score as an example) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora96 17,256 Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) Yet all draw from the same money pool that is Square Enix yes they have several divisions to make games with, but they all draw their budget from Square Enix, a budget which could go to something else like an FFVII Remake, KH3, or FFXV, oh and I should have also said FFVII Remake, I should also add their are a myriad of reasons X-2 sold less than X, it's simple it wasn't as well received by audiences as the first one, while not outright terrible it was a dissapointment to say the least(Metacritic auidence score as an example) Well they wanted to make XIII sequels so tough luck. Keep on hating. 85 on Metacrtic is very good. Lol. Plus 7-9 million copies sold for X-2 is bloody dam good, especially when they reused a lot of assets. And it seems you hate sequels, well have fun with X-3. Edited January 3, 2016 by Sora96 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Deathdealer 96 Posted January 3, 2016 Well they wanted to make XIII sequels so tough luck. Keep on hating. 85 on Metacrtic is very good. Lol. Plus 7-9 million copies sold for X-2 is bloody dam good, especially when they reused a lot of assets. And it seems you hate sequels, well have fun with X-3. Oh for the love of christ when did I ever say I hated the sequel, for christ's sake your level of assumptions about me are over 9000, I don't hate the sequel, in fact I'm glad they stalled on making KH3, FFXV, and the FF7 Remake for next gen the hardware in the PS3/360 is anemic, weak, and so incredibly old the games would have looked terribad, I actually like FFXIII, and FFXIII-2 while I don't think they are great, they are good regardless, but LR:FFXIII from a story standpoint I hate it, because they litterally make Lightning a Deus Ex Machina, Mary Sue, completely striping characters that were effected by the L'Cie curse of any meaning for them to just mope and wait for Lightning to save them, from a gameplay standpoint it is the best of the FFXIII series. Well they wanted to make XIII sequels so tough luck. Keep on hating. 85 on Metacrtic is very good. Lol. Plus 7-9 million copies sold for X-2 is bloody dam good, especially when they reused a lot of assets. And it seems you hate sequels, well have fun with X-3. Also when in my argument, tell me where did I say I hate sequels, no where did I say or convey I hate sequels Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites