Possibility of Kingdom Hearts 3 coming to PC

[The Deathdealer 96]

While obviously this is by no means fact, but I have some interesting speculation.

 

I have reason to think Kingdom Hearts 3, and Final Fantasy XV, and Final Fantasy VII Remake(It is a timed-exclusive) Could appear on PC, now so far they have only been confirmed for the PS4, and Xbox One(FFXV and KH3).

However  Nomura has stated that KH3 and FFXV both use DX11 as tools and whatever is capable of using DX11 is under consideration. http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/06/11/e3-2013-final-fantasy-xv-and-kingdom-hearts-iii-pc-version-hinted-by-tetsuya-nomura/
 

Now why would SE want to do this  they want to sell more digital games.

Only 1/3 of Square Enix's HD Games sell digitally on consoles which is pretty bad for Square Enix, since digital means more money in their pocket.

 with Steam their is less of a middleman, while yes their is a middleman, it's not as bad as the licensing fees on consoles, along with the fee that goes to the store that stocks said game. 

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/11/21/one-third-square-enixs-console-game-revenue-comes-download-sales/

 

Additionally, having games available for download also means that Square Enix can sell their games directly to consumers without them being affected by the secondhand market, from which game publishers make no money. The most interesting point, though, is the following quote from Matsuda:

 

As we are trying to secure profit through utilizing stock of past titles, profitability of HD games must now also be considered over a certain time frame. It is not easy to recoup development costs solely by initial sales, however download sales will allow us to increase profit in a long tail manner.

Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2014/12/19/square-enix-will-focus-increasing-download-sales-via-steam-platforms/#DrtbtJiTmEPUs4ee.99

 

 

 

 

Now I know a Kingdom Hearts game has never been digital before, but that  probably is about to change, you see the Xbox One, and PlayStation 4 have a same day digital policy.

What is same day digital well it simply means that any game that doesn't have a required peripheral to be available to purchase on the XBOX LIVE or PLAYSTATION NETWORK store front on the same day as the physical release, and  this applies to all games, and considering SE got the specs of the XBOX ONE AND PLAYSTATION 4 probably back in 2011, and knew of the policies in 2011, or 2012, these things aren't just sprung on developers they are told years in advance. 

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/122335-All-PS4-Games-Will-Be-Available-as-Downloads

You now have more purchase options! Download your favorite Xbox One games from Xbox Live the same day they are available at retail – all in the comfort and convenience of your home. The digital version can be downloaded directly to your Xbox and you can even start playing before the full game download is complete. Have peace of mind that you’ll never lose your disc and can access or buy it any time of the day. For more information, see Q&A section below.

Questions & Answers: Can I buy digital versions of every Xbox One game?

All Xbox One Games will have a digital version unless there is a required physical peripheral (e.g. Skylanders Swap Force).

 

 

So since it's most likely going to get a digital release anyway, the Xbox One, and PS4 are x86 machines might as well release it on Steam where you can make alot of money, because of the smaller middleman, and since Square Enix is looking to increase download sales via Steam, and places where digital download is popular and that platform is the PC.

What could happen with KH3 is that they may not even use Utada's songs or if licensing was an issue they probably smoothed that out so that KH3 can be distributed digitally as the new console same day digital policy requires( I mean seriously no one I know uses CDs anymore, it's called iTunes)

 

An example of digital benefits is Alan Wake which made it's budget back in 48 hours of being on Steam

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-20-alan-wake-pc-makes-money-back-in-48-hours

 

The game is being made in Unreal Engine 4 which is an engine that is very PC centric engine, and would be an easy port to make, that is why the next gen consoles are using it which are basically close box PCs.

 

Now they were using the Luminous Engine but they changed to the Unreal Engine 4 for various reasons one of those is rendering, but what if one of those reasons was because internally they have a PC Port planned because you know there are more people on the PC that can play Kingdom Hearts 3 on their PCs than the PS4, and Xbox Ones current install base, I mean their are 130 million users on Steam alone, and games like GTA V are some of the top played games on Steam, and Lightning Returns was one of the best sellers on Steam for a time, and games like Fallout 4,  COD BLOPS 3, and GTA V are in the top sellers, so there is a good potential audience to sell the game too, added that their is little to no middle man on Steam, and you can make your own store front if you choose, so you cut out the middleman entirely, and with the advent of emulation more people can get Kingdom Hearts on the PC if they already own one, and play it by buying a cheap disc, unlike the Xbox One they would have to rely on you having had a PS2 which most probably did but still.

 

 

Disney also has no Qualms with releasing games on PC, in fact I believe they put out more games on PC than SE has with their FF games so far, in fact pretty much all the latest games like Disney iNFINITY are on PC right now, and with Square Enix lauching their FF games on the PC left right and center KH3 would be the next obvious step in bringing their foothold into the PC market.

 

Now I want to quickly touch on piracy, piracy =/= lost sales, that argument that piracy equals lost sales, or lost revenue has been debunked so much, you can just look on google and you will know the facts about piracy, and no emulation is not piracy, I also would like to point out that a person who buys a used games is less likely to buy the game new to support the developer than a pirate simply because if someone buys game at a discounted rated, they won't be inclined to buy it again because they already spent their dollar, a pirate doesn't spend anything and they don't stop anyone from making a legitimate purchase like theft, and since they didn't spend anything, and would like to support the developer if they enjoyed the game, and want a sequel. 

Not saying used games are bad, in fact they are one of the only things a console gamer has in terms of control, and a used purchase was once a new purchase, but developers still feel the same way about them because they simply don't get money out of it,  and  piracy and used games will never destroy the industry as much as publishers say they will. 

 

 

Now you may ask why wouldn't Square Enix announce it if it was coming to PC, well it's simple their are PC Gamers that own consoles, they want to double dip, have people buy the console version, then have those same buyers buy the PC Version especially since it will probably be the superior version, for obvious reasons, instead of those that wait like a year or two like me. 

 

Now when do I think it will come to PC?, well 8-12 months after the console versions like Final Fantasy XV and the Final Fantasy VII Remake, why I think it will come out in this timeframe is because of Final Fantasy Type-0 HD which was under the same circumstances as FFXV and KH3   made for x86 machines the PS4/XBOXONE made in Luminous Engine which is harder to use than Unreal Engine 4, so it should take less time to make a port for, and FFXV is made using Luminous so it should take a similar amount of time, while I understand it was 6 months between the PC and PS4/XBOXONE release, but I would think Square Enix would want to polish the PC release up a bit, don't want a Arkham Knight on your hands(seriously WB I mean it doesn't take many people to port a game  these 12 guys at Iron Galaxy who ported Batman Arkham Origins, they seriously needed more time.

I didn't consider the time it took to take the FFXIII games on Steam because the Xbox 360, and PS3, are a completely different architecture from the PC, hell they are a different from each other unlike FF Type-0 HD which was built for closed PCs(PS4/XBOX1)

 

 

Now when the game does come to PC  and any future Final Fantasy, JRPG, title in the future my hopes is that the PC port is not as disappointing as the Type-0 HD port, or the Lightning Returns port.

1. Unlocked resolution options it should at least go up to 4K resolution 

2. Unlocked Framerate so no 30 FPS CAP, no 60 FPS cap, just whatever framerate that my setup can put out in relation to the settings I have on the game itself. 

3. More Graphics options Low-Medium-High-Ultra, AA settings

4. MULTI-GPU SUPPORT

 

In the words of the Legendary Durante himself

 So here is my appeal to Square-Enix:

• For the love of all that is holy, figure out how to query the OS for a list of available resolutions, and offer them to the user. Especially if your game clearly already supports rendering at those resolutions.
• Find someone to design and implement your mouse/keyboard controls who has actually played a third-person game on PC with mouse and keyboard. This problem is solved, and has been for at least a decade.
• Don't engineer your future games in a way which makes it apparently impossible for what is clearly a technically competent porting team to change the framerate. This is the 21st century.

 

Now this is just speculation which could very well be proven that KH3 will never come to any other platform apart from the PS4/XB1(Which would be unfortunate) , and I hope this board doesn't become a console/PC war, or a console war I mean some people are butthurt that Kingdom Hearts 3 is multiplatform for some reason which doesn't actually impact the quality of the game in any way what so ever.

Edited December 21, 2015 by Casper Formadi

[Sora96 17,256]

Yes, you will definitely get FFXV and VII Remake on PC. KH3 is up in the air since Disney owns it but if they can I'm sure they will.

 

Do not get your hopes up for any of those features.

[MythrilMagician 6,963]

The possibility of Kingdom Hearts being on PC is very little initially. Later on, maybe, but at release only PS4 and XBOX ONE. There have been digital KH games, but not on consoles, only mobile (Coded and Chi)

 

They'll fix the problems with the Type-0 HD and Lightning Returns ports eventually, so don't worry about that.

 

Steam isn't exactly a direct way of selling to consumers. They are a digital distributor, so Valve will get some money from sales. A direct to consumer means of sale would be an official website or store in a mall (or wherever) or a digital platform such as Origin and Uplay.

[The Deathdealer 96]

The possibility of Kingdom Hearts being on PC is very little initially. Later on, maybe, but at release only PS4 and XBOX ONE. There have been digital KH games, but not on consoles, only mobile (Coded and Chi)They'll fix the problems with the Type-0 HD and Lightning Returns ports eventually, so don't worry about that.Steam isn't exactly a direct way of selling to consumers. They are a digital distributor, so Valve will get some money from sales. A direct to consumer means of sale would be an official website or store in a mall (or wherever) or a digital platform such as Origin and Uplay.

I covered this, they can make their own storefront, and Steam takes very little in comparison to console licensing fees, along with the fee the stores take up.

Yes, you will definitely get FFXV and VII Remake on PC. KH3 is up in the air since Disney owns it but if they can I'm sure they will.

 

Do not get your hopes up for any of those features.

Disney does put more PC games on a regular basis than Square Enix, I mean they dumped practically 20 games at once on Steam.

[MythrilMagician 6,963]

I covered this, they can make their own storefront, and Steam takes very little in comparison to console licensing fees, along with the fee the stores take up.Disney does put more PC games on a regular basis than Square Enix, I mean they dumped practically 20 games at once on Steam.

You can do that from their website anyway.

[The Deathdealer 96]

I only mentioned Square Enix wanting to go more digital and embrace the PC more is because Disney already does this , in fact I would argue a little more than SE.

[Sora96 17,256]

The possibility of Kingdom Hearts being on PC is very little initially. Later on, maybe, but at release only PS4 and XBOX ONE. There have been digital KH games, but not on consoles, only mobile (Coded and Chi)They'll fix the problems with the Type-0 HD and Lightning Returns ports eventually, so don't worry about that.Steam isn't exactly a direct way of selling to consumers. They are a digital distributor, so Valve will get some money from sales. A direct to consumer means of sale would be an official website or store in a mall (or wherever) or a digital platform such as Origin and Uplay.

 

Think they're done with Type-0 HD.

 

 

I covered this, they can make their own storefront, and Steam takes very little in comparison to console licensing fees, along with the fee the stores take up.

Disney does put more PC games on a regular basis than Square Enix, I mean they dumped practically 20 games at once on Steam.

 

Not commenting on Disney's policies. Just saying KH has to go through multiple chains and has a different development environment.

[The Deathdealer 96]

Think they're done with Type-0 HD.

 

 

 

Not commenting on Disney's policies. Just saying KH has to go through multiple chains and has a different development environment.

Oh I know Square has to go through things with Disney, but considering it's Disney who is the owner/co-owner of the IP, and the developer environment is a little bit different but I wouldn't nessecarily say it's an obstacle to porting their games and bringing them to Steam, if anything I would say it would be Disney that would be pushing for this

[Sora96 17,256]

Oh I know Square has to go through things with Disney, but considering it's Disney who is the owner/co-owner of the IP, and the developer environment is a little bit different but I wouldn't nessecarily say it's an obstacle to porting their games and bringing them to Steam, if anything I would say it would be Disney that would be pushing for this

 

Disney is the owner of KH. No co-owner. Haha.

[AaySquare 445]

The possibility of Kingdom Hearts III releasing on PC is very low. None of the KH game ever release on PC. Why would it now?

Edited December 21, 2015 by AaySquare

[The Deathdealer 96]

Disney is the owner of KH. No co-owner. Haha.

Even better they at least understand that their is a PC gaming audience on Steam that would love Kingdom Hearts 3.

[The Rocky Shoe 169]

The possibility of Kingdom Hearts III releasing on PC is very low. None of the KH game ever release on PC. Why would it now?

Well none has ever been on Xbox so there's that. Also they could pull a GTA V, where it won't initially release on PC but like a year or 2 later it does.

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

I wouldn't bother with that stuff since it did not come from SQEX. That is probably some baseless rumor that they make up.

[The Deathdealer 96]

The possibility of Kingdom Hearts III releasing on PC is very low. None of the KH game ever release on PC. Why would it now?

Did you even read my speculation? I mean I covered this extensively come on, I mean they never even where on Xbox before.

I wouldn't bother with that stuff since it did not come from SQEX. That is probably some baseless rumor that they make up.

None of what I said are based on rumors, it's speculation, and I simply drew a conclusion from there.

Edited December 21, 2015 by Casper Formadi

[KH4Real 749]

Forget steam. Pray only for the case.

But the chances are idd very low won't count on it.

Edited December 21, 2015 by KH4Real

[Gwynbleidd 551]

It's definitely possible, bu I definitely wouldn't expect it. Who knows though? Maybe they may put it on PC.

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

None of what I said are based on rumors, it's speculation, and I simply drew a conclusion from there.

Nonetheless, it won't be coming out for PC at all. Any sites that say it will are making it up. There is some petition for that and another I think for it to release on the Wii U. The engine won't work for Wii U first off, and second, seeing as how they have been making it already since 2010, there is no way on God's green earth they will do anything to delay it further.

[The Deathdealer 96]

Nonetheless, it won't be coming out for PC at all. Any sites that say it will are making it up. There is some petition for that and another I think for it to release on the Wii U. The engine won't work for Wii U first off, and second, seeing as how they have been making it already since 2010, there is no way on God's green earth they will do anything to delay it further.

I wouldn't say Kingdom Hearts 3 won't be coming out for PC at all, not at launch sure, but at all emm that's where I don't agree with you and I covered this in my post, and yes I know KDRAMASTARS saying KH3 PC confirmed is a load of toss, so obviously I know. 

Also we aren't talking about the Wii U here, I know the Wii U has a GPU that would have to scale down the game, if not it won't run at all.

 

Ever heard of Final Fantasy Type-0 HD that was a game that was announced as a PS4/XB1 exclusive that got announced for the PC 4 months after the launch of the console version, so I wouldn't say it won't come to the PC at all, but just not at launch.

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

I wouldn't say Kingdom Hearts 3 won't be coming out for PC at all, not at launch sure, but at all emm that's where I don't agree with you and I covered this in my post, and yes I know KDRAMASTARS saying KH3 PC confirmed is a load of toss, so obviously I know. Also we aren't talking about the Wii U here, I know the Wii U has a GPU that would have to scale down the game, if not it won't run at all. Ever heard of Final Fantasy Type-0 HD that was a game that was announced as a PS4/XB1 exclusive that got announced for the PC 4 months after the launch of the console version, so I wouldn't say it won't come to the PC at all, but just not at launch.

If they do after it releases for the PS4 and XboxOne, then be our guest. If they want to do it, then they should go for it.

[GroovingOnUp 163]

There's honestly no point in even thinking about the possibility of this happening so early,wait until the games are actually released first.Square will never announce a possible pc version before the console versions are out.

[The Deathdealer 96]

There's honestly no point in even thinking about the possibility of this happening so early,wait until the games are actually released first.Square will never announce a possible pc version before the console versions are out.

Speculation is fun, very fun my friend, it's not about the point of thinking, but it's fun to ponder, and try to predict their moves.