Scrapmaster 1,731 Posted February 18, 2016 you guys are firetrucking exasperating holy shit It certainly was awesome, and Henry still may win the fight, too. That Dreadnaught armour really is something, especially when paired with those bones. His arm is gonna be numb for a while... Ychera'l have to face his ultimate style when I post, and that style is brutal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nero Kunivas 3,046 Posted February 18, 2016 you guys are firetrucking exasperating holy shit ------------ All right then, I concede. If anything, I am hoping this isn't going to end terribly, like say, the RP dying like TB did or Mod intervention. And in the RPs case, that the fight doesn't turn ugly. This is simply a clash of ideals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystics Apprentice 2,397 Posted February 18, 2016 Then how about we get out of this impasse by penalizing both sides. Oath for being faaaaaaaar to devastating. Unversed for hardly being scratched. Either that or choose one and punish them. Leniency gets you only so far, Mystic. As for Oath, he actually doesn't feel that he can bring his concerns to you, because of recent events, so I felt it my duty to stand up for him and see what was fair and what isn't. If I seem like I'm focusing on Unversed a bit too much, I apologize. Personally, I'm still reeling from Tainted Blood and I let it cloud my judgement a bit and I am sorry. But what I don't want to see is a lack of justice. Devastation is one thing, but being hardly damaged is another. Both severe however. And...all right, I'll shush about the Crystal body. (If anything, the concept is cool as hell.) I appreciate your concern, Scrap...but we're not fighting. I have no intention of fighting Mystic, for he is a friend, or Unversed, as it's a waste of breath. I am saddened that Sabre doesn't feel he can bring his concerns to me. I consider him a friend and we get along quite well. I highly respect his opinion and want him to be happy with the RP. I am trying to be fair for everyone here; I will *not* choose favorites because that would be highly unfair of me (not that this should be mentioned here, but at the start of this I have been accused of favoring Sabre because of Eclaire, and it was not The Unversed who accused me of this). As for leniency, I agree that structure and order is needed, but whenever I have tried to apply structure and order I have only had everyone upset with me. I thought you also were unhappy with the rules and restrictions here, so I have tried to be lenient to everyone. The truth? Yes, I think Sabre is overpowered with Eclaire and The Unversed is trying too hard to get Dark Heart noticed. To say he's dodging too much . . . eh . . . yes and no, but I have seen other players do it as well so I can't penalize him too heavily. We all are allowed our own discretion of what attacks hit and what doesn't, though we are all expected to be fair. If The Unversed was hit by all of those attacks Dark Heart would be dead, and that's hardly fair for one move, so I can understand that he's trying to give himself a chance to fight. Yes, he's avoiding things, but he's just trying to fight Eclaire. I do understand that you're trying to stand up for your friend, and I really admire that. I must emphasize, again, that there are two sides to this. If I look at it from Sabre's perspective I could understand his disappointment, because he was trying to make a stance with Eclaire when Dark Heart came out of nowhere and attacked. However, I can see this from The Unversed's perspective that Eclaire is just trying to dismiss the battle and totally annihilate him before he do anything, which is hardly fair either. I would like to come to a conclusion that will make Sabre and Unversed happy with this duel, but I also do not wish for any of us to be at odds with each other. This is our RP, everyone, and we should all be friends and have fun here! : ) 2 The Unversed and Nero Kunivas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nero Kunivas 3,046 Posted February 18, 2016 I am saddened that Sabre doesn't feel he can bring his concerns to me. I consider him a friend and we get along quite well. I highly respect his opinion and want him to be happy with the RP. I am trying to be fair for everyone here; I will *not* choose favorites because that would be highly unfair of me (not that this should be mentioned here, but at the start of this I have been accused of favoring Sabre because of Eclaire, and it was not The Unversed who accused me of this). As for leniency, I agree that structure and order is needed, but whenever I have tried to apply structure and order I have only had everyone upset with me. I thought you also were unhappy with the rules and restrictions here, so I have tried to be lenient to everyone. The truth? Yes, I think Sabre is overpowered with Eclaire and The Unversed is trying too hard to get Dark Heart noticed. To say he's dodging too much . . . eh . . . yes and no, but I have seen other players do it as well so I can't penalize him too heavily. We all are allowed our own discretion of what attacks hit and what doesn't, though we are all expected to be fair. If The Unversed was hit by all of those attacks Dark Heart would be dead, and that's hardly fair for one move, so I can understand that he's trying to give himself a chance to fight. Yes, he's avoiding things, but he's just trying to fight Eclaire. I do understand that you're trying to stand up for your friend, and I really admire that. I must emphasize, again, that there are two sides to this. If I look at it from Sabre's perspective I could understand his disappointment, because he was trying to make a stance with Eclaire when Dark Heart came out of nowhere and attacked. However, I can see this from The Unversed's perspective that Eclaire is just trying to dismiss the battle and totally annihilate him before he do anything, which is hardly fair either. I would like to come to a conclusion that will make Sabre and Unversed happy with this duel, but I also do not wish for any of us to be at odds with each other. This is our RP, everyone, and we should all be friends and have fun here! : ) Regarding the rules and restrictions first and foremost; I did dislike your character-based restrictions, but I felt your rules and penalization needed work, however that's mainly because I'm a stricter GM than yourself, as evidenced when I booted Unversed from Tainted Blood when he Godmodded and Auto-Hit too much, along with my rules being...tough. However, on the flipside, I allowed complete character freedom of creation, allowing any species and even a few Gods as long as I could keep everything in order. Were it not for the events that caused the RP to die, I feel I could have done that and done it well. However, I now find myself without my own RP and my former co-host won't allow me to participate to such a degree, meaning I'm a player like everyone here, but I'm no less strict or confrontational. If I see something that might be wrong, I'll point it out, friend or no friend to stand up for. As for everything else: If Eclaire is overpowered, why haven't you talked to Oath about it? That way we could avoid such incidents and confrontation, plus the arrogance that she (Eclaire) shows enough to try and kill off Dark Heart immediately. Favouritism? I've not seen such accusations during this, but that might be understandable considering my time of joining the RP. All in all; I understand where everyone is coming from and I conclude with this: Do what you will with either of them. Punish them if needed or don't if it isn't. I'll do a lot of things here but I won't overstep my boundaries or cause any metaphorical bloodshed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrapmaster 1,731 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) As for everything else: If Eclaire is overpowered, why haven't you talked to Oath about it? That way we could avoid such incidents and confrontation, plus the arrogance that she (Eclaire) shows enough to try and kill off Dark Heart immediately. Favouritism? I've not seen such accusations during this, but that might be understandable considering my time of joining the RP. To be fair. He kinda did on the first post where Eclaire almost obliterated the whole clone army, its a few pages back I think. Shit just happened, now we clean it up, and pretend it never happened...we should have a good time here. Edited February 18, 2016 by Scrapmaster 1 Mystics Apprentice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaude 536 Posted February 18, 2016 What Scrap said. Enough is enough, so sweep this under the rug, everybody go to neutral corners, and if corrections need to be placed I place my trust in MA that things will get corrected. 1 Mystics Apprentice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arya Stark 1,337 Posted February 18, 2016 Also if Kuni has time to bicker in complete sentences he has time to post 1 Vaude reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nero Kunivas 3,046 Posted February 18, 2016 Also if Kuni has time to bicker in complete sentences he has time to post Whew...you're worse than me in the blunt department. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrapmaster 1,731 Posted February 18, 2016 Also if Kuni has time to bicker in complete sentences he has time to post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystics Apprentice 2,397 Posted February 18, 2016 Regarding the rules and restrictions first and foremost; I did dislike your character-based restrictions, but I felt your rules and penalization needed work, however that's mainly because I'm a stricter GM than yourself, as evidenced when I booted Unversed from Tainted Blood when he Godmodded and Auto-Hit too much, along with my rules being...tough. However, on the flipside, I allowed complete character freedom of creation, allowing any species and even a few Gods as long as I could keep everything in order. Were it not for the events that caused the RP to die, I feel I could have done that and done it well. However, I now find myself without my own RP and my former co-host won't allow me to participate to such a degree, meaning I'm a player like everyone here, but I'm no less strict or confrontational. If I see something that might be wrong, I'll point it out, friend or no friend to stand up for. As for everything else: If Eclaire is overpowered, why haven't you talked to Oath about it? That way we could avoid such incidents and confrontation, plus the arrogance that she (Eclaire) shows enough to try and kill off Dark Heart immediately. Favouritism? I've not seen such accusations during this, but that might be understandable considering my time of joining the RP. All in all; I understand where everyone is coming from and I conclude with this: Do what you will with either of them. Punish them if needed or don't if it isn't. I'll do a lot of things here but I won't overstep my boundaries or cause any metaphorical bloodshed. The reason that I have not let you become a co-host is because you walked out on us, leaving me with a mess and a few unhappy people. Not to mention a huge character gap. I understand that things happen, and I forgave you, of course, but I am hesitant to let you host with me again. I never wanted to let The Unversed go because I feel everyone deserves a second chance, but I wanted to keep the peace and let you have the final say (not that I was given much of a choice). This is a roleplay where everyone is meant to have fun. There was a *lot* of drama back when we co-hosted together, and beyond this there has been none since I have been hosting alone. I have organized all of this alone while you were away and reestablished a working RP; I don't feel it is very fair that I just divide the power. I am sorry, and I don't want to be mean. I'm just trying to keep the peace and I don't know how I feel about co-hosting right now. I have been accused via PM about my siding with Sabre and displaying favortism toward him, yes. In fact, I was written a nice long little book about how unjust I was being and criticizing my character as a person. The player had an issue with Zion and Eclaire, but because you accepted Sabre's characters in the past I felt that it wasn't in my authority to take those characters and their powers away from him. I have been trying to be very accommodating to Sabre and have backed him up, allowing more from Eclaire than even I wanted. Why haven't I addressed it? I don't know; I guess it is because I respect him and don't want to upset him and stir up a pot of trouble that I don't have to. I have addressed the auto-hitting a few times, though he still performed an auto-hit even if it wasn't absolute destruction of the clones. Overall, guys: I'm only human, and a frail one at that. I'm trying to be fair to everyone and let everyone have the most fun that they can while maintaining order. I hope you all at least slightly understand. Thank you, Kunivas, for your insight. I will be discussing this issue between Sabre and Unversed and see if we can come to a conclusion that they are happy with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arya Stark 1,337 Posted February 18, 2016 "Can't breathe ..." He gasped for air the second the captain let go. The bear hug may have been a little too much for Deuce ,who had begun running estimates of possible ... damages before he was pulled up. He had only one problem with it ... The smell of a pirate who he assumed was displaying affection. He was however genuinely surprised at the reaction he incurred. "If there's a hole near the engine and you haven't fallen out of the sky then I suppose it's minor ... I guess I'll go and see if anything is wrong just in case." He reached down his belt which was meagerly equipped but had the essentials. In fact a few items he carried were Orient special issue. The most prominent of which was a metallurgic tool for refining metal designed by some guy that died off during the Goldovia incident. As far as the ships layout went he had the gist of it during the one look he had but it was definitely not the way he expected. Of all things he considered the style of the welding done on it and the screw shapes odd but not alien. "I think I'll go look at it now." He sighed figuring it'd be best to get himself busy before he remembers the others again. Dorian,Grim - Langerdon Orient trading outpost "So you lost him?" Asked Dorian who was smoking out of a specially carved pipe and sat on a oriental style chair. "Yes ... Would you take care of Nalia for a while?" Replied Grim who was looking at some papers on the opposite side of the room. While Dorian's half was very baroque and decorated while his was more dark and red. It matched their appearances especially Grim's. "Why is that? You planing on something? Or are you just dumping her on me because you know nobody in orient can deal with her when she goes berserk?" "Mostly the latter." "Why not. The deal i've struck with Oryx will be a handful for me so I could use some help. Whatever happened to our silent friend?" He said implying Jonathan was missing. "Yes well he ... Went to see if there's any way to find out who took Deuce was." "I see. In that case you go on. I'll bring the deity the plans for the settlement and then run the show on behalf of Orient. That agreeable?" "Why are you so keen on the Empire?" "Simple. Imagine you have forces A, B and C. If A and B are in conflict it is in C's best interest to help out both sides eventually wearing both out and gaining a monopoly. But in case force A drastically becomes stronger than force B it is in C's best interest to help force A to win the conflict and reaping the spoils." Hey Atrias, in my last post I threw you a bone and sent a helicopter to pick Arian up Also I'm filled with the overwhelming desire to know who would question a GM's sense of character over something as trivial as a MAIN CHARACTER AND FACTION LEADER being overpowered. Alas, I know Mystic would never betray this person's trust since they have an excellent character, so I will never know. 1 Mystics Apprentice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nero Kunivas 3,046 Posted February 18, 2016 The reason that I have not let you become a co-host is because you walked out on us, leaving me with a mess and a few unhappy people. Not to mention a huge character gap. I understand that things happen, and I forgave you, of course, but I am hesitant to let you host with me again. I never wanted to let The Unversed go because I feel everyone deserves a second chance, but I wanted to keep the peace and let you have the final say (not that I was given much of a choice). This is a roleplay where everyone is meant to have fun. There was a *lot* of drama back when we co-hosted together, and beyond this there has been none since I have been hosting alone. I have organized all of this alone while you were away and reestablished a working RP; I don't feel it is very fair that I just divide the power. I am sorry, and I don't want to be mean. I'm just trying to keep the peace and I don't know how I feel about co-hosting right now. I have been accused via PM about my siding with Sabre and displaying favortism toward him, yes. In fact, I was written a nice long little book about how unjust I was being and criticizing my character as a person. The player had an issue with Zion and Eclaire, but because you accepted Sabre's characters in the past I felt that it wasn't in my authority to take those characters and their powers away from him. I have been trying to be very accommodating to Sabre and have backed him up, allowing more from Eclaire than even I wanted. Why haven't I addressed it? I don't know; I guess it is because I respect him and don't want to upset him and stir up a pot of trouble that I don't have to. I have addressed the auto-hitting a few times, though he still performed an auto-hit even if it wasn't absolute destruction of the clones. Overall, guys: I'm only human, and a frail one at that. I'm trying to be fair to everyone and let everyone have the most fun that they can while maintaining order. I hope you all at least slightly understand. Thank you, Kunivas, for your insight. I will be discussing this issue between Sabre and Unversed and see if we can come to a conclusion that they are happy with. A lot of shit happened back then, Mystic. But I find your hesitance hurtful, as it implies you lack faith in my ability to grow. For as you have seen, I've not gotten angry. At most, I was perturbed and felt I had to raise a concern and see if I was correct in that front. I was not, clearly, but I'd rather it stopped there rather than escalate into a fight. The Drama was not entirely a fault of mine, but I accept the blame for it all because, well...my walking out weighs heavily on my conscience and your rejection of me and still evident bitterness over the whole ordeal only weighs me down more and is a burden on my mind...every day I am slammed with intense regret over my decision to just...bugger off like that. I've done all I can to say sorry, to prove I'm not that person anymore...and I feel like I've been spat in the face for it. That's my life every day, trying to prove myself and I get put down by others, or worse yet, myself. I live with a mountain of regrets and shame, Mystic. The incident with Tainted just adds to my bucket list. I try and try and I get nothing for it other than just...bad things. So the most I can do is end this before any conflict brews and advise where I can...so everyone here can stop looking at me like I'm the Devil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrapmaster 1,731 Posted February 18, 2016 When did this thread become a soap opera? Just sayin. Lets stop this people. NOW. //// regardless of trust or not kunivas, you can't blame anyone for being hurt when you left back then, regardless. We forgive you, I forgive you, Yuffie does (as long as you post ) and most importantly, Mystic does too. and no one's looking at you like you're the devil man. All I see is raiden in that profile pic 2 Mystics Apprentice and Nero Kunivas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arya Stark 1,337 Posted February 18, 2016 for all intents and purposes raiden when he goes jack the ripper mode, is indeed the devil AND PUTTING WORDS INTO MY MOUTH MUCH lmao, of course, your right. I'll not pretend that I wasn't frustrated when the events actually happened (it seemed like a lot of my life was going to shit at that moment and you did not help), but I'm a very forgiving person. Now post Or watch Game of Thrones, I will now give you a choice 1 Nero Kunivas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nero Kunivas 3,046 Posted February 18, 2016 for all intents and purposes raiden when he goes jack the ripper mode, is indeed the devil AND PUTTING WORDS INTO MY MOUTH MUCH lmao, of course, your right. I'll not pretend that I wasn't frustrated when the events actually happened (it seemed like a lot of my life was going to shit at that moment and you did not help), but I'm a very forgiving person. Now post Or watch Game of Thrones, I will now give you a choice "Did someone call for Jack...?" -------------- Once more, I am so sorry for what happened back then, Yuffie. It means a lot to me to be forgiven for such a poor and shameful display on my part. Why not both? X3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saber Lily 1,543 Posted February 18, 2016 Hey Atrias, in my last post I threw you a bone and sent a helicopter to pick Arian up Also I'm filled with the overwhelming desire to know who would question a GM's sense of character over something as trivial as a MAIN CHARACTER AND FACTION LEADER being overpowered. Alas, I know Mystic would never betray this person's trust since they have an excellent character, so I will never know. Thank you for that Yuffie. Atrias, I apologize tenfold for forgetting that detail. I really am sorry and it was inexcusable to forget what I said I'd do.And if anyone has a problem with Zion and Eclaire, please. Please.Tell me to my face, and then tell Scrap off for Oryx. Because helll, God of Chaos? Came our of firetrucking nowhere with an army and can raise fallen enemies as taken?I'll just shut up because I'm seriously upset at how my days gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrapmaster 1,731 Posted February 18, 2016 Why did I get thrown into this out of nowhere ;_; Oryx is love, Oryx is life he doesn't wanna kill people he just wants to take shit...as much as cyler wants to take powers. Im not complaining about no godesses, and im not having Oryx himself attack shit because that'd be boring, with his overwhelming power (being a god and all) he'd outright decimate shit. firetruck, the only thing I gotta complain about is that the public transportation prices in my country just increased to R$3.80, thats expensive as shit. I agree though I brought oryx out of nowhere...AND I WOULD DO IT AGAIN IN A HEARTBEAT. Cuz he's awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Unversed 168 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) Mystic, I'm not sure if anyone has said this yet but I feel your doing a great job at hosting this RP alone. You've been fair, kind, forgiving & those who accuse you of Favortism or anything stupid like that clearly can't see your doing your best to insure everyone's happy & having fun here. I believe it's not just me either that trust's your judgement & respects you & your decisions with what goes in this RP. So I wanna make sure that you know from me that your doing a great as job at this RP Kunivas, I have nothing against you or Sabre or anyone here for that matter, and I fully understand why you would stand up for a friend but let me tell you man, I got into a fight with some guys friend who thought he was doing the right thing by attacking me but what he didn't know was that he's friend attacked me first & that I was the victim & just created a big mess. So what I'm saying here is you really should just let Sabre talk to me or Mystic if he has a problem with my posts K man, otherwise your getting involved into something you shouldn't be in since you don't know the story. But! anyway, lets forget & forgive cause I don't want anyone hurt or feeling bad here no more, so let's just continue with the RP K Edited February 18, 2016 by The Unversed 3 Nero Kunivas, Vaude and Mystics Apprentice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrapmaster 1,731 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) Mystic, I'm not sure if anyone has said this yet but I feel your doing a great job at hosting this RP alone. You've been fair, kind, forgiving & those who accuse you of Favortism or anything stupid like that clearly can't see your doing your best to insure everyone's happy & having fun here. I believe it's not just me either that trust's your judgement & respects you & your decisions with what goes in this RP. So I wanna make sure that you know from me that your doing a great as job at this RP Kunivas, I have nothing against you or Sabre or anyone here for that matter, and I fully understand why you would stand up for a friend but let me tell you man, I got into a fight with some guys friend who thought he was doing the right thing by attacking me but what he didn't know was that he's friend attacked me first & that I was the victim & just created a big mess. So what I'm saying here is you really should just let Sabre talk to me or Mystic if he has a problem with my posts K man, otherwise your getting involved into something you should be in since you don't know the story. But! anyway, lets forget & forgive cause I don't want anyone hurt or feeling bad here no more, so let's just continue with the RP K *Maxis gives a thumbs up...still soaked in blood, IF PEOPLE WOULD POST MAYBE HE COULD GET CLEANED * *seriously, its starting to get sticky* Edited February 18, 2016 by Scrapmaster 2 The Unversed and Nero Kunivas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nero Kunivas 3,046 Posted February 18, 2016 Mystic, I'm not sure if anyone has said this yet but I feel your doing a great job at hosting this RP alone. You've been fair, kind, forgiving & those who accuse you of Favortism or anything stupid like that clearly can't see your doing your best to insure everyone's happy & having fun here. I believe it's not just me either that trust's your judgement & respects you & your decisions with what goes in this RP. So I wanna make sure that you know from me that your doing a great as job at this RP Kunivas, I have nothing against you or Sabre or anyone here for that matter, and I fully understand why you would stand up for a friend but let me tell you man, I got into a fight with some guys friend who thought he was doing the right thing by attacking me but what he didn't know was that he's friend attacked me first & that I was the victim & just created a big mess. So what I'm saying here is you really should just let Sabre talk to me or Mystic if he has a problem with my posts K man, otherwise your getting involved into something you shouldn't be in since you don't know the story. But! anyway, lets forget & forgive cause I don't want anyone hurt or feeling bad here no more, so let's just continue with the RP K All right. Sorry for any trouble I caused. *Maxis gives a thumbs up...still soaked in blood, IF PEOPLE WOULD POST MAYBE HE COULD GET CLEANED * I think Arkham has a cloth. 1 The Unversed reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Unversed 168 Posted February 18, 2016 All right. Sorry for any trouble I caused. It's alright man & I'll look forward to reading your post with Crota vs Stark 1 Nero Kunivas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mystics Apprentice 2,397 Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) I apologize for not responding in further length to everyone's messages, but I have a buttload of school work that awaits my attention. However, I want to thank everyone for working together to come to a happy conclusion. If there is anything else that arises that bothers someone in the future, please feel free to bring it to my attention and I will happily see to it. If it is within the parameters of the character I cannot guarantee that it is a problem within my control, but I do want to work with everyone so that we're all having a good time. Thank you all for your kind words, and I'm sorry to those who I have disappointed. Let us see how things proceed from here, and should this issue persist or become greater I will reevaluate and see what we can do to make it right. Unversed, Sabre: if you two have a particular issue or see something that I need to address please let me know via PM. I would like to work it out. Lastly, Kunivas: I understand your feelings, and I am very sorry that I have pained you in this way. I have not meant to at all, though please understand that I too was slightly offended, both by your departure as well as how things went down prior. I do not mean ill; it is just the decision that I have chosen at this time. Now then, I must depart and take care of this pile of calculus that is glaring at me, but I'll try to post in the main RP thread this evening, if possible. Edited February 18, 2016 by Mystics Apprentice 2 The Unversed and Nero Kunivas reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nero Kunivas 3,046 Posted February 18, 2016 Look, a DANCE. It's funny...... LAUGH DAMN IT. -------------- It's quite all right, Mystics, really. And I'm sorry once more. -------------- HEY! GUESS WHAT?! I'M GOING TO POST! 1 Mystics Apprentice reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saber Lily 1,543 Posted February 19, 2016 Look, a DANCE. It's funny...... LAUGH DAMN IT. -------------- It's quite all right, Mystics, really. And I'm sorry once more. -------------- HEY! GUESS WHAT?! I'M GOING TO POST! Still waiting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrapmaster 1,731 Posted February 19, 2016 Still waiting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites