SorRik 186 Posted October 30, 2015 Im making this thread about a realization on something. From my status about "Is Kingdom Hearts in BBS the moon or not or fake" from the help of 2 kh members here Pokemon Cuzzie and Xamtehwt Trece they both confirmed to me that Kingdom Hearts in BBS is the real one. So thank you so much for the discussion guys. I really appreciated it. ^_^ And now a new question pops up in my head on something. Based on Kairi's grandmother story about the keyblade war that the "real Kingdom Hearts was engulfed by the darkness never to be resurfaced again" So in BBs that it where Master Xehanort in the battle in the Keyblade Graveyard where he opened or was clearing the clouds and the heart shaped moon appeared is the Kingdom Hearts. So my question is how was it that Master Xehanort was able to know where the real Kingdom Hearts location is? Any comments will be appreciate and theories will be appreciated thanks 1 Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
khsg 73 Posted October 30, 2015 He may have just searched for it.He looked for it and found it.I don't think there is a specific explanation.At least I'm not aware of one. 1 SorRik reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KHVision 85 Posted October 30, 2015 The Kingdom Hearts in BBS was Kingdom Hearts, but isn't in all its glory like what we'll be seeing in KH3. So far, both iterations of the Heart-Shaped moon have been created in some way. The one in KH2 was created from the hearts released by Heartless and the one in BBS was created from the hearts of worlds. So far, we only know that Kingdom Hearts can be unlocked with the formation of the X-Blade. Since there has been two different locations for Kingdom Hearts (The Keyblade Graveyard and The World That Never Was), I think it's safe to assume that the door to access it does not have a set location. I believe that the Kingdom Hearts in BBS was only at the Keyblade Graveyard because Xehanort willed it too be there to follow the story of old. That's just an opinion though, since that's something we don't have a clear answer to. 1 SorRik reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 quid is good 2,209 Posted October 30, 2015 Cos old man badassery helped him 2 Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) and SorRik reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) 3,859 Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) The Kingdom Hearts in BBS was Kingdom Hearts, but isn't in all its glory like what we'll be seeing in KH3. So far, both iterations of the Heart-Shaped moon have been created in some way. The one in KH2 was created from the hearts released by Heartless and the one in BBS was created from the hearts of worlds. So far, we only know that Kingdom Hearts can be unlocked with the formation of the X-Blade. Since there has been two different locations for Kingdom Hearts (The Keyblade Graveyard and The World That Never Was), I think it's safe to assume that the door to access it does not have a set location. I believe that the Kingdom Hearts in BBS was only at the Keyblade Graveyard because Xehanort willed it too be there to follow the story of old. That's just an opinion though, since that's something we don't have a clear answer to. Don't complicate things even more! We've had a long discussion about what KH was real and which one was fake! Anyway, Xehanort did search enough to find out the true story of the Keyblade War and how the keyblade warriors fought for the light within Kingdom Hearts (Venitas' speach), so he must have known where the battle took place (The Keyblade Graveyard), and it's asumable that KH would be fairly near to where the battle took place. Edited October 30, 2015 by Xamtehwt Trece 1 SorRik reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted October 30, 2015 This gets complicated since its been said that we have yet to see the real KH yet. I think when made the one in BBS was intended to be real but now that Nomura retconned that even that can be listed at best 'incomplete"....Since we know it does not take one pure light vs one pure dark but instead 7 light and 13 darkness DDD made what happened in BBS in this regard change. Master Xehanort himself in DDD says we have yet to see the real KH. 7 Blooming Marluxia, Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀), SorRik and 4 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) 3,859 Posted October 30, 2015 This gets complicated since its been said that we have yet to see the real KH yet. I think when made the one in BBS was intended to be real but now that Nomura retconned that even that can be listed at best 'incomplete"....Since we know it does not take one pure light vs one pure dark but instead 7 light and 13 darkness DDD made what happened in BBS in this regard change. Master Xehanort himself in DDD says we have yet to see the real KH. In the end this is going to end up becoming what I said in SorRik's status: I can actually see that one not beeing the real one and Sora obtains the power of the real KH to fight Xehanort at the very end . This is what I said in SorRik's status while discussing what KH was the real one, right after we agreed and said that the one from BBS was the real one (although now you say it isn't the real one...). 1 SorRik reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted October 30, 2015 In the end this is going to end up becoming what I said in SorRik's status: I can actually see that one not beeing the real one and Sora obtains the power of the real KH to fight Xehanort at the very end . This is what I said in SorRik's status while discussing what KH was the real one, right after we agreed and said that the one from BBS was the real one (although now you say it isn't the real one...). It's not the real one ( not anymore) . Watch the video I added to show what MX says 5 SorRik, Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀), Blooming Marluxia and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) 3,859 Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) It's not the real one ( not anymore) . Watch the video I added to show what MX says Great, I didn't remember that, Kingdom Hearts was swalloed by darkness, and it never returned from it. Thanks, Lea. Edited October 30, 2015 by Xamtehwt Trece 2 HarLea Quinn and SorRik reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col.Random 3,683 Posted October 30, 2015 I'm gonna take a wild guess and suggest time travel This gets complicated since its been said that we have yet to see the real KH yet. I think when made the one in BBS was intended to be real but now that Nomura retconned that even that can be listed at best 'incomplete"....Since we know it does not take one pure light vs one pure dark but instead 7 light and 13 darkness DDD made what happened in BBS in this regard change. Master Xehanort himself in DDD says we have yet to see the real KH. I wonder if part of the reason Nomura decided to delay the tru form of kingdom hearts was because he wanted it to be show in fancy graphics on the PS4/Xbone 1 SorRik reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomHearts3 2,591 Posted October 30, 2015 That is the replacement Kingdom Hearts. The true one will be shown in KH3. 1 SorRik reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SorRik 186 Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) This gets complicated since its been said that we have yet to see the real KH yet. I think when made the one in BBS was intended to be real but now that Nomura retconned that even that can be listed at best 'incomplete"....Since we know it does not take one pure light vs one pure dark but instead 7 light and 13 darkness DDD made what happened in BBS in this regard change.Master Xehanort himself in DDD says we have yet to see the real KH. So Lea based on the DDDD video, The one in Birth By Sleep was also a creation of Xehanort of Kingdom Hearts? And as Xehanort described here in the video that Kingdom Hearts was an unseen land? So does that mean it is a world? Edited October 30, 2015 by SorRik Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted October 30, 2015 So Lea based on the DDDD video, The one in Birth By Sleep was also a creation of Xehanort of Kingdom Hearts? More like an incomplete version if you ask me ( for lack of a better term)- DDD retconned this version completely. I think at the time BBS was made this WAS suppose to be real- just like the XBlade produced by Venitas was suppose to be the real version of the Xblade at the time but DDD made that impossible bc you need 20 pieces -13 dark 7 light- not one of each..I don't know if creation is the right word for it 4 Blooming Marluxia, SorRik, luka and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SorRik 186 Posted October 30, 2015 More like an incomplete version if you ask me ( for lack of a better term)- DDD retconned this version completely. I think at the time BBS was made this WAS suppose to be real- just like the XBlade produced by Venitas was suppose to be the real version of the Xblade at the time but DDD made that impossible bc you need 20 pieces -13 dark 7 light- not one of each..I don't know if creation is the right word for it Ah now I see what you mean so in BBS was the real Kingdom Hearts but still incomplete. For the true Kingdom Hearts to return was needed of the X-Blade? Is that right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted October 30, 2015 Ah now I see what you mean so in BBS was the real Kingdom Hearts but still incomplete. For the true Kingdom Hearts to return was needed of the X-Blade? Is that right? It wasn't real per se bc it got retconned to not be real anymore like MX said in DDD......I use "incomplete" as the only way to explain how this even has an explanation considering the retcon. Even Nomura has stated we have yet to see the real KH. 4 SorRik, Blooming Marluxia, Robbie the Wise and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SorRik 186 Posted October 30, 2015 It wasn't real per se bc it got retconned to not be real anymore like MX said in DDD......I use "incomplete" as the only way to explain how this even has an explanation considering the retcon. Even Nomura has stated we have yet to see the real KH.Ah so its not real anymore.but incomplete attempt before in kh bbs? 1 HarLea Quinn reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarLea Quinn 26,501 Posted October 30, 2015 Ah so its not real anymore.but incomplete attempt before in kh bbs? That's the best way to put it for now 3 SorRik, Blooming Marluxia and Robbie the Wise reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SorRik 186 Posted October 30, 2015 That's the best way to put it for now Thanks a lot Lea. Its clear now thank you ISo the true answer here is that we havent really seen the real Kingdom Hearts in actuality until we find out in Kingdom Hearts 3 2 HarLea Quinn and Blooming Marluxia reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helios X 6 Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) The Kingdom Hearts from KH was assembled artificially by Ansem by taking the hearts of worlds with the help of the heartless. The one in KH2 was assembled by Xemnas by taking the hearts of people released from slain heartless. The one in KH BBS was a fragment of Kingdom Hearts summoned by the X-Blade forged by uniting one heart of pure light and another of pure darkness according to Master Xehanort's plan at the time. However, he admitted that this way was a failed attempt and not the true way to acquire Kingdom Hearts. That is why he made the Organization so he can clash alongside his 12 other vessels against the 7 Guardians of Light and forge the true X-Blade to summon Kingdom Hearts in its entirety. Edited December 20, 2015 by Helios X 1 Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
