Ultima Spark 753 Posted October 8, 2015 My friend theorizes Sora to be Kingdom Hearts. Everyone's heard this theory before tbh. Being more serious now, I would not be surprised if Kingdom Hearts itself, whatever it is (at the moment the most popular theory being some kind of Lifestream-esque...thing, realm, whatever) has a will or consciousness of some kind, and it's using the main characters (protagonist or not) to carry out its own tasks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted October 8, 2015 Oh my God, Kingdom Hearts to be fully revealed by the end of KHIII!? Good lord, what are we going to witness when the time comes!? Just what will we be seeing!? What is Kingdom Hearts, in all truthfulness!? Gahh, the questions boggle the mind! And the fact that Kingdom Hearts shall be discussed in KHIII more than ever in the series is very interesting! Perhaps we'll learn more about the heart of all worlds! Hype, hype, hype! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalebninja 188 Posted October 8, 2015 I was afraid to make a thread a long time ago, stating a theory that Kingdom Hearts was a heaven for hearts, becuase I thought people would make fun of it and it being a stupid theory... Now everyone is saying this and now I'm lost for words. Theres already a kingdom hearts like that, The one Xemnas tried to get to. This will reveal what the true kingdom hearts is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moochieh32 676 Posted October 8, 2015 Theres already a kingdom hearts like that, The one Xemnas tried to get to. This will reveal what the true kingdom hearts is. I know, but I think there was more to it. For example, Sora might be able to get into KH in the end and be able to actually see and talk to Eraqus whose heart lies within and others who might die in KH3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalebninja 188 Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) I know, but I think there was more to it. For example, Sora might be able to get into KH in the end and be able to actually see and talk to Eraqus whose heart lies within and others who might die in KH3. When they die they are split into a heartless and nobody and if their heart is without body i don't see how he could see them let alone could talk to their heart alone. Edited October 8, 2015 by Kalebninja almighty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moochieh32 676 Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) When they die they are split into a heartless and nobody and if their heart is without body i don't see how he could see them let alone could talk to their heart alone. That's what Kingdom Hearts is for: a heaven. In the heaven, that's where the hearts go and in this sense, their spirit. Once inside, Sora could be able to interact with the hearts as if they were spirits. Just an example of what I'm saying: pretend that all the people around Sora and Mickey are the hearts lying within KH, only they can be interacted with. Only thing: make them more transparent/ghost look-like with their own hearts lying within the ghost body. That's how I imagine it. Edited October 8, 2015 by Moochieh32 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalebninja 188 Posted October 8, 2015 That's what Kingdom Hearts is for: a heaven. In the heaven, that's where the hearts go and in this sense, their spirit. Once inside, Sora could be able to interact with the hearts as if they were spirits. Just an example of what I'm saying: pretend that all the people around Sora and Mickey are the hearts lying within KH, only they can be interacted with. Only thing: make them more transparent/ghost look-like with their own hearts lying within the ghost body. That's how I imagine it. That would be cheesy. I prefer dead to be dead unless the conditions are met to be resurrected. Why would The resurrection factor even be a thing if they're just up in a heaven. And wouldn't those characters who were brought back from the dead be able to recollect what happened in that heaven? Sora would have been there (his death in kh1) if that was the case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moochieh32 676 Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) That would be cheesy. I prefer dead to be dead unless the conditions are met to be resurrected. Why would The resurrection factor even be a thing if they're just up in a heaven. And wouldn't those characters who were brought back from the dead be able to recollect what happened in that heaven? Sora would have been there (his death in kh1) if that was the case. First of all, I never said resurrection. All I said was that Sora could be able to see those who have died and lost their hearts, but never said he can be able to resurrect them. Kingdom Hearts would just be a one-way place to see where all hearts rest and lie after the bodies of those have been discarded. It may act as a prison, but it's more like a place where they can actually rest in peace instead of suffer. I think adding this to the ending of KH3 would be a bit sweet thing to do, sort of like a way to honor those who have died throughout the series so far. Besides, Disney would most likely approve of this, no? Also as of the other part, Sora did describe what was happening to him after he had sacrificed himself. While his death did brought up the "life" of Roxas, his heart was probably traveling to Kingdom Hearts, but before it did, Kairi found a way to stop the transfer, resulting him coming back to life. Edited October 8, 2015 by Moochieh32 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalebninja 188 Posted October 8, 2015 First of all, I never said resurrection. All I said was that Sora could be able to see those who have died and lost their hearts, but never said he can be able to resurrect them. Kingdom Hearts would just be a one-way place to see where all hearts rest and lie after the bodies of those have been discarded. It may act as a prison, but it's more like a place where they can actually rest in peace instead of suffer. I think adding this to the ending of KH3 would be a bit sweet thing to do, sort of like a way to honor those who have died throughout the series so far. Besides, Disney would most likely approve of this, no? Also as of the other part, Sora did describe what was happening to him after he had sacrificed himself. While his death did brought up the "life" of Roxas, his heart was probably traveling to Kingdom Hearts, but before it did, Kairi found a way to stop the transfer, resulting him coming back to life.I didn't say you said resurrection. Resurrection already exists in the series. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LETTERSE7EN 54 Posted October 8, 2015 Some have suggested that since most characters are part of trios that Eraqus and Xehanort had another teammate (a girl most likely since the third member is always female). This teammate might've been important to Xehanort either a close friend, a relative, or a lover. This person could've told Xehanort about KH in much the same way that Kairi talking about other worlds perked Riku and Sora's interests in other worlds. Maybe just like Kairi also had in interest in seeing other worlds this person had an interest in seeing KH for her/himself. Later on this person could've died an untimely death. Xehanort might be trying to keep a promise to see it for her/him. Or perhaps he wants to revive this person, in addition to filling his curiousity. This is great..and i like the idea of a third currently unrevealed character, but i really hope it isnt a Xehanort love thing..this character should just be evil as he's the main antagonist for the 253 games we've had so far..it'd be nice, but I would prefer if Xehanort didn't have any redeemable qualities/moments..we should hate him through and through...i dont want to feel sorry for him when he perishes..If anything, i'd like for him to do something so terrible that it makes us all hate him more..to further justify his demise..(please don't kill sorarikukairiventusroxasleaoraqua) 1 Moochieh32 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kittenz 4,281 Posted October 8, 2015 It's the kh universes version of japanese heaven which a whole other heaven Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomHearts3 2,591 Posted October 8, 2015 I am not surprised it would be the toward end of KH3 that we see the true Kingdom Hearts. They say it is a land that went by that name. Is it really a land though? If its replacement is the heart shaped moon we see throughout the series, then what is the true version of it? I most certainly do not know what it is. 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted October 9, 2015 I am not surprised it would be the toward end of KH3 that we see the true Kingdom Hearts. They say it is a land that went by that name. Is it really a land though? If its replacement is the heart shaped moon we see throughout the series, then what is the true version of it? I most certainly do not know what it is. Whatever it is, I'm sure it'll be something of utmost splendor, or perhaps, utmost horror! Remember that Kingdom Hearts was swallowed by the darkness, never to surface again, so who knows what state it's in now! Gahh, the hype! X_X Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomHearts3 2,591 Posted October 9, 2015 Whatever it is, I'm sure it'll be something of utmost splendor, or perhaps, utmost horror! Remember that Kingdom Hearts was swallowed by the darkness, never to surface again, so who knows what state it's in now! Gahh, the hype! X_XTrue, but remember that it was revealed in the first KH that it is light so we know it is of great splendor. The question is, how marvelous is it and why? 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tylireous 0 Posted October 9, 2015 Ive been long working on a theory that kingdom hearts is a sort of haven for all hearts, be them real or "fakes." At the end of both Re:Com and 358/2 days, one of the main characters dies. Both of them, (Xion and Riku-Replica), had "fake" hearts. At the end of Re:CoM, Riku-Replica tells Riku that he's not afraid of death, but wonders where his heart will end up. I take it we all know what happens to Xion, but we're never told where their hearts ended up at. If kingdom hearts truly is Nirvana for hearts, I bet that Xion/Riku-Replicas' hearts ended up there. (Well, maybe not Xion's heart, Its inside Soras heart, but I'm pretty sure it applies for Riku Replica.) I also have a basic idea theory about how KH could actually be the True Darkness, that's why Xehanort wants it so much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Django Moore 62 Posted October 9, 2015 I'm just impatient. I need it nowww Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boshi 18 Posted October 9, 2015 Well, in the past few games, Kingdom Hearts as been depicted as a Door to light in KH and as a Giant heart shaped moon in KH2. I'm starting to believe that the "Kingdom Hearts" everyone is thinking of could be different depending on the individual. It could be anything ranging from what the person desires most to a location. It was seen as a place of everlasting power for dark for Ansem SoD (if I rememeber correctly in KH when he pleaded to the door for power), but to Sora, it presented itself as a door to light. So at this point, "Kingdom Hearts" feels so ambiguous. :huh: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GothicSlenderman 173 Posted October 10, 2015 So what we saw in Birth by Sleep wasn't the true Kingdom Hearts? Well, I've always imagined Kingdom Hearts to be an entire world, but one that keeps all of the others in balance. If Heartless were to destroy it, all of the other worlds would collapse or fall into darkness. It could be the center of the Universe. My second theory is that it's still it's own world but it's like a fusion of all of the other worlds Sora has gone to in his journey. He could be walking on the beach of Destiny Islands, but soon the halls of the Castle that never was then leaving the doors to Castle Oblivion to the Keyblade Graveyard. Or maybe going in order of the worlds Sora has gone to. Destiny Islands, Traverse Town, Wonderland, Deep Jungle, ect. But that's just my theory. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted October 10, 2015 True, but remember that it was revealed in the first KH that it is light so we know it is of great splendor. The question is, how marvelous is it and why? Because it is the source of all life in the worlds! At least, that's what I believe! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomHearts3 2,591 Posted October 10, 2015 Because it is the source of all life in the worlds! At least, that's what I believe! That's exactly what it is see. It is the source of all light. That light remains in the darkness waiting to return. We'll see what it is like at the very end of KH3 most likely during the final battle. Thinking about it is incomprehensible to me. 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted October 10, 2015 That's exactly what it is see. It is the source of all light. That light remains in the darkness waiting to return. We'll see what it is like at the very end of KH3 most likely during the final battle. Thinking about it is incomprehensible to me. IT'S GOING TO BE THE END OF AN AMAZING JOURNEY THAT HAS BEEN IN THE MAKING SINCE 2002! And after that, a new journey shall begin! :') Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingdomHearts3 2,591 Posted October 10, 2015 IT'S GOING TO BE THE END OF AN AMAZING JOURNEY THAT HAS BEEN IN THE MAKING SINCE 2002! And after that, a new journey shall begin! :') Indeed. I think that might be returning the true Kingdom Hearts to the light from the darkness. 1 The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted October 10, 2015 Indeed. I think that might be returning the true Kingdom Hearts to the light from the darkness. Ooh, that sounds like a great idea for the next saga! It would be interesting to see how Sora and the gang manage just that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limerickey9 8 Posted October 10, 2015 I always knew Kingdom Hearts as the "Heart of all Worlds" so all of these theories are very interesting. I think it would make sense that the "Heart of all Worlds" would have a physical manifestation, so KH being a world or the final level in KHIII seems likely. Picture The hall of the cornerstone in KHII and how it goes from being overrun by darkness to becoming pristine and very white. That is how I imagine KH to appear before and after the resolution of the plot, respectively. Running around KH would be awesome especially if you could connect to the hearts that have gone away like Eraqus and Xion. 1 Boshi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AaySquare 445 Posted October 12, 2015 Every world in the game is from Disney. Kingdom Hearts is known to be the Heart of all Worlds. That means... Walt Disney is Kingdom Hearts confirmed! 1 Limerickey9 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites