Jake 1,488 Posted October 2, 2015 A new story update for Kingdom Hearts χ[chi] was implemented on October 1st. Along with a new story update, the annual Halloween event for Kingdom Hearts χ[chi] players has also begun, and to celebrate the announcement of Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue, players have received a SR+ Meow Wow card. The story update for Kingdom Hearts χ[chi] appears to reveal some interesting details. Such details include what Tetsuya Nomura, director of the Kingdom Hearts series, meant by having Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ not being the exact same as Kingdom Hearts χ[chi], however they are related. Master Ava, the foreteller of the Vulpes union, reveals that Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ is part of an opened state, in which Ephemera is conversing with the player from another dimension. In this story update, you will fight Ava and test your skills. After 4 turns in the battle, the battle will end. You only use 1/4th of your strength during the battle. Translations of the story update will be provided as soon as we receive them. You can check out images from the Kingdom Hearts χ[chi] maintenance update as well as the story update below. Click here to view the article 3 Wyle, Green Sparrow and RikuFangirl2008 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Green Sparrow 795 Posted October 2, 2015 Let's here (puts on reading glasses)Story update... blah blah blah... new Meow Wow card... blah blah blah...Wait... what? Another dimension? Sigh... FOR CRYING OUT LOUD NOMURA! STOP IT! Jk. At this point, I'm so far down the KH rabbit hole, I'll eat anything that Nomura feeds me. ^_^ 4 Toominator, Spencer Ellis Norman, Epi Carrero and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salve-SiS 125 Posted October 2, 2015 Dimension?! What the heck?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RikuFangirl2008 1,368 Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) D'aaaaaawww Meow Wow as a card! CUUUUUTE~! X3 Ooooooh! So that's what Nomura meant when he said both of them are not the same but related. Two dimensions?! I'm trying wrap my head around it, just to understand the two entities. This is kinda like DDD, when Sora and Riku were separate during Mark of Mastery. But it was revealed of where they really are. Ok. If Unchained X is the dimension where Ephemera conversing "us" (the player), then what kind of "Dimension" X [chi] is? Why is Ephemera conversing "us" (the player) through Unchained X? Is something bad going to happen in X [chi]? And this is only a means of communication he has? Edited October 2, 2015 by RikuFangirl2008 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Epi Carrero 6 Posted October 2, 2015 Now Why would I wanna fight my master? O_O P.S. FEED ME MORE D: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingdomhe 1,362 Posted October 2, 2015 time travel is one thing.......................but adding dimensions to the mix!!! nomura you should only have had one thing: time travel or dimensions, but not both. the plot is going to get toooooooooo confusing after X/Un:X. i'm calling it: the foretellers or Ephemera is going to be stuck in some dimension until KH3 or something. 1 Epi Carrero reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted October 2, 2015 Wait, ANOTHER DIMENSION!!?? Oh come on!! Don't do that to us when we can only play ONE VERSION OF THE FREAKING GAME! Either give us BOTH X and Unchained X or don't give them ANY differences between them and let them be the same freaking game! Seriously, this is the ONLY problem I have with the whole thing. Why would you do something to make the stories of the two games fundamentally different when a huge part of your audience can't even access that other part or understand it!? I thought that Unchained X would be what would allow us to be on the same page as everyone else in Japan, but now....just, just give us X Square. Just make it English. >X( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeybladeLordCheeseCurd 1,542 Posted October 2, 2015 Wait, ANOTHER DIMENSION!!?? Oh come on!! Don't do that to us when we can only play ONE VERSION OF THE FREAKING GAME! Either give us BOTH X and Unchained X or don't give them ANY differences between them and let them be the same freaking game! Seriously, this is the ONLY problem I have with the whole thing. Why would you do something to make the stories of the two games fundamentally different when a huge part of your audience can't even access that other part or understand it!? I thought that Unchained X would be what would allow us to be on the same page as everyone else in Japan, but now....just, just give us X Square. Just make it English. >X( time travel is one thing.......................but adding dimensions to the mix!!!nomura you should only have had one thing: time travel or dimensions, but not both. the plot is going to get toooooooooo confusing after X/Un:X. i'm calling it: the foretellers or Ephemera is going to be stuck in some dimension until KH3 or something. D'aaaaaawww Meow Wow as a card! CUUUUUTE~! X3 Ooooooh! So that's what Nomura meant when he said both of them are not the same but related. Two dimensions?! I'm trying wrap my head around it, just to understand the two entities. This is kinda like DDD, when Sora and Riku were separate during Mark of Mastery. But it was revealed of where they really are. Ok. If Unchained X is the dimension where Ephemera conversing "us" (the player), then what kind of "Dimension" X [chi] is? Why is Ephemera conversing "us" (the player) through Unchained X? Is something bad going to happen in X [chi]? And this is only a means of communication he has?Guys, Unchained is not another dimension. It's a state of being that Ephemera entered to converse with the player from another dimension that is probably the Realm of Sleep. 3 Epi Carrero, Master Eraqus and 2 quid is good reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake 1,488 Posted October 2, 2015 Guys, Unchained is not another dimension. It's a state of being that Ephemera entered to converse with the player from another dimension that is probably the Realm of Sleep. Whoops, had it wrong. It is a state of being. Let me fix that. :] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingdomhe 1,362 Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Guys, Unchained is not another dimension. It's a state of being that Ephemera entered to converse with the player from another dimension that is probably the Realm of Sleep. Whoops, had it wrong. It is a state of being. Let me fix that. :] i know that, but there is still another dimension i saw it on the KHinsder forums translation. i was just saying that the series is going to get more confusing after the games are finished. (a bit toooooo confusing) Edited October 2, 2015 by Keyblade master26 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeybladeLordCheeseCurd 1,542 Posted October 2, 2015 i know that, but there is still another dimension i saw it on the KHinsder forums translation. i was just saying that the series is going to get more confusing after the games are finished. (a bit toooooo confusing)You do realize that dimensions kinda already existed in KH, right? Realm of Light, Realm of Darkness, Realm of Sleep, the all powerful Kingdom Hearts...Ephemera is probably in the Realm of Sleep, which is basically why he's able to speak to the player and turn into freaking dandelions. He's even there with what appears to be a guy in an Organization cloak. 2 Master Eraqus and Epi Carrero reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted October 2, 2015 Guys, Unchained is not another dimension. It's a state of being that Ephemera entered to converse with the player from another dimension that is probably the Realm of Sleep. Whoops, had it wrong. It is a state of being. Let me fix that. :] i know that, but there is still another dimension i saw it on the KHinsder forums translation. i was just saying that the series is going to get more confusing after the games are finished. (a bit toooooo confusing) You do realize that dimensions kinda already existed in KH, right? Realm of Light, Realm of Darkness, Realm of Sleep, the all powerful Kingdom Hearts...Ephemera is probably in the Realm of Sleep, which is basically why he's able to speak to the player and turn into freaking dandelions. He's even there with what appears to be a guy in an Organization cloak. Oh....well...does this not still make particular details about X and Unchained X's stories different anyway? Does this not make one experience more "authentic" than the other? Which one is the "real" version of the story? X? Does this mean Unchained X is just a fake telling of the story? Are international players only going to get an alternate telling of the story while Japan gets both? Why does it have to be segregated like this? As much as I love the idea of playing it on my phone, now I feel like I need the browser version to get the full story, but they aren't making that available to everyone so what's the point in trying to make them so different from each other? I'm still so confused. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingdomhe 1,362 Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) You do realize that dimensions kinda already existed in KH, right? Realm of Light, Realm of Darkness, Realm of Sleep, the all powerful Kingdom Hearts...Ephemera is probably in the Realm of Sleep, which is basically why he's able to speak to the player and turn into freaking dandelions. He's even there with what appears to be a guy in an Organization cloak. actually the definition of realm is a "kingdom", but i couldn't find a definition of dimension that is similar to what is being used until i searched for alternate dimensions "An alternate universe (also known as alternative universe or alternate reality)" and Ava did say "other dimension" so they are different. plus if there really is a different dimension it would explain why there is a dark Chirithy. Oh....well...does this not still make particular details about X and Unchained X's stories different anyway? Does this not make one experience more "authentic" than the other? Which one is the "real" version of the story? X? Does this mean Unchained X is just a fake telling of the story? Are international players only going to get an alternate telling of the story while Japan gets both? Why does it have to be segregated like this? As much as I love the idea of playing it on my phone, now I feel like I need the browser version to get the full story, but they aren't making that available to everyone so what's the point in trying to make them so different from each other? I'm still so confused. so far i think it will be the same story, but with a few small changes nothing too story changing though. but who knows anymore it might in the future. Edited October 2, 2015 by Keyblade master26 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AngelTheWeirdStranger 504 Posted October 2, 2015 Nomura just can't have a game that is not a spin-off. Even Unchained X which is supposed to be a port for those who don't speak Japanese is now a unique game with its own story because it's in different Dimension. Well, as long as Kingdom Hearts X Back Cover covers (get it!?) everything then I'll be fine. 1 Mysterious Figure reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted October 2, 2015 actually the definition of realm is a "kingdom", but i couldn't find a definition of dimension that is similar to what is being used until i searched for alternate dimensions "An alternate universe (also known as alternative universe or alternate reality)" and Ava did say "other dimension" so they are different. plus if there really is a different dimension it would explain why there is a dark Chirithy. so far i think it will be the same story, but with a few small changes nothing too story changing though. but who knows anymore it might in the future. Hopefully. Just because I and a few other KH fans understand and have followed other people like Everglow play such an experience doesn't mean that others have. They need to be more considerate of foreign fans. T_T" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeybladeLordCheeseCurd 1,542 Posted October 2, 2015 Nomura just can't have a game that is not a spin-off.Even Unchained X which is supposed to be a port for those who don't speak Japanese is now a unique game with its own story because it's in different Dimension. Well, as long as Kingdom Hearts X Back Cover covers (get it!?) everything then I'll be fine.Unchained is a state of being, not another dimension. 1 Master Eraqus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AngelTheWeirdStranger 504 Posted October 2, 2015 Unchained is a state of being, not another dimension.What does that even mean? -_- 2 Ienzo88755 and Salve-SiS reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RikuFangirl2008 1,368 Posted October 2, 2015 Guys, Unchained is not another dimension. It's a state of being that Ephemera entered to converse with the player from another dimension that is probably the Realm of Sleep. Ok I'm sorry. I got it wrong. It's not a dimension but a "state of being". But still, there has to be a reason why he's conversing with "us" through Unchained. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeybladeLordCheeseCurd 1,542 Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) What does that even mean? -_-the condition of a person, thing, etc., with regard to main attributes 2 the structure, form, or constitution of something 3 any mode of existence Ephemera is in a state of being that allows him to communicate through another dimension that might be the realm of sleep since he was communicating through dreams.Ok I'm sorry. I got it wrong. It's not a dimension but a "state of being". But still, there has to be a reason why he's conversing with "us" through Unchained. That I don't know, because Ephemera is a mysterious little jerk who happens to be seeing an Organization cloak guy at the end of the story update Edited October 2, 2015 by KeybladeLordSora 1 Master Eraqus reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 2, 2015 From this update, I can gather one conclusion to satisfy all Kingdom Hearts fans... Tetsuya Nomura = Hideyo Kojima Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Awesome Sauce 634 Posted October 2, 2015 Oh Nomura, how much more convoluted can you make this series? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted October 2, 2015 From this update, I can gather one conclusion to satisfy all Kingdom Hearts fans... Tetsuya Nomura = Hideyo Kojima You know at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they fused or something off-screen. Tetsuhido Kojimura-san would be the most dangerously deceptive producer to ever walk the face of the planet. Looking forward to Kingdom Hearts III The Phantom Pain. X) 1 Henne reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinode 3,056 Posted October 2, 2015 I'm thinking Ephemera is in the RoS, but that X and Unchained X are not separate dimensions/worlds. If they are, Unchained X will find a way to tell both stories, or Back Side will clear up anything the West needs to know, I'm curious as to what Unchained, the process, is. It seems to imply breaking some kind of link(removing the chains) out of something, perhaps not being chained to, exclusively, a single dimension. Maybe this would allow Ephemera to find an intersection between dimensions in the dreams? Unfortunately, this seems to be a bit vague, but connections to the Realm of Sleep are heavily implied. Also, it's pretty obvious Ephemera, due to his curiosity, will be getting involved with Darkness. That shade was definitely Unknown-3, and we all know who unknowns are! Xehanort(Or some inheritor of Xehanort's Keyblade). 1 PillowHead reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultima Spark 753 Posted October 3, 2015 From this update, I can gather one conclusion to satisfy all Kingdom Hearts fans... Tetsuya Nomura = Hideyo KojimaThis is news to you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hero of Light XIV 2,381 Posted October 3, 2015 I'm thinking Ephemera is in the RoS, but that X and Unchained X are not separate dimensions/worlds. If they are, Unchained X will find a way to tell both stories, or Back Side will clear up anything the West needs to know, I'm curious as to what Unchained, the process, is. It seems to imply breaking some kind of link(removing the chains) out of something, perhaps not being chained to, exclusively, a single dimension. Maybe this would allow Ephemera to find an intersection between dimensions in the dreams? Unfortunately, this seems to be a bit vague, but connections to the Realm of Sleep are heavily implied. Also, it's pretty obvious Ephemera, due to his curiosity, will be getting involved with Darkness. That shade was definitely Unknown-3, and we all know who unknowns are! Xehanort(Or some inheritor of Xehanort's Keyblade). Wouldn't it be Unknown-0 since he's the earliest appearance of an Unknown? Unless he's from the present timeline...then maybe he'd be a 3...I don't know. In any case, I hope that something can work out so that the West gets ALL of the story that Japan is getting, one way or another. I'm seriously tired of being treated like a second child here. XP" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites