The true definition of Nobodies

[Guest]

Kingdom Hearts 2 introduced Nobodies. Shells created from the most strongest of hearts. Every nobody has a heartless and longs to have a heart to feel re-complete again (in which their heart is contained by a heartless).

That all changed when Kingdom Hearts 3D attacked! Xemnas stated that "Nobodies eventually grow a heart of their own over time!". So, in technicality, the definition of a nobody has changed slightly.

So, I need clarification, what exactly is a nobody supposed to be post Kingdom Hearts 3D?

[animemylove 439]

it's still the same definition, I guess it just makes it possible for a nobody to become a new being .. when that happens I guess it'll need a new name.

[Pokemoncuzzie 271]

Nobodies are still the same I guess. They just wanted to find a way to make us feel even worse about Roxas since now we know that he may have had a heart. 

[Kaweebo 3,617]

All DDD added was a twist that contained an even more horrible plot point than was already assumed in KHII. Instead of Nobodies being forced to live out tortured existences with KH being their own chance for sanctification; it turns out that they, like Pinocchio, always had the chance to grow hearts...they were simply misled into believing that they couldn't by Xehanort. Nobodies are still the same, but they're not nearly as tragic as a state of being whereas the Nobodies of Organization XIII and many of their fates are even more tragic than they already would have been. (I'm talking characters like Demyx, Marluxia and Larxene, whose fates are completely unknown right now)

 

Personally, I thought it was a great twist that tied back into one of the main themes of KH established already: Anything can grow a heart. Why would Nobodies be any different?

Edited September 30, 2015 by Kaweebo

[Col.Random 3,683]

Nobodies are formed when a person becomes a Heartless.Nobodies do not exist and do not have hearts of their own, except that they do exist- not Xion though, not until KH3 anyways- they can also grow hearts and probably did too.In short there is no proper definition of a Nobody at this point since everything before KHDDD and everything after it completely contradict one another

Edited September 30, 2015 by Col.Random

[Master Eraqus 1,340]

Nobodies are created when a Heartless is created beforehand. When a heart of a being leaves the body and transforms into a Heartless, the body that the heart leaves behind fades away and is eventually reborn in an in-between world. The body takes the same shape if its respective being that turned into a Heartless was strong-hearted. In time, the Nobody eventually grows its own heart with the help of memories.

 

I do not complain at all for this reveal in DDD (or retcon if you want to call it that cause I don't think it is) cause it makes sense since we've seen Nobodies who clearly showed emotion, like Demyx, and its a much better explanation than "they only pretend to have hearts". In fact, I completely support this and none of you can change my mind on it.

Edited September 30, 2015 by Master Eraqus

[KeybladeLordCheeseCurd 1,542]

Nobodies are created when a Heartless is created beforehand. When a heart of a being leaves the body and transforms into a Heartless, the body that the heart leaves behind fades away and is eventually reborn in an in-between world. The body takes the same shape if its respective being that turned into a Heartless was strong-hearted. In time, the Nobody eventually grows its own heart with the help of memories. On a side note, I do not complain at all for this reveal in DDD (or retcon if you want to call it that cause I don't think it is) cause it makes sense since we've seen Nobodies who clearly showed emotion, like Demyx, and its a much better explanation than "they only pretend to have hearts". In fact, I completely support this and none of you can change my mind on it.

Demyx called it.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

The definition is still the same. The body and soul that is leftover after ones heart falls to darkness and forms a heartless. The only difference is they can can possibly grow a new heart under proper conditions. ( It's not a guarantee ) Some will grow new hearts and some won't..This has actually been hinted at throughout the series so I don't have an issue with it.

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

No, the definition of a Nobody is still the same. The only difference is that they have the potential to replace what they have lost over time. They are still empty shells up until that point.

[Smithee 327]

It's pretty much a pun.

 

Nobody.

 

Heartless.

 

Etc.

[Dio Brando 5,810]

Same definition as before except,as of Dream Drop Distance,we now know that nobodies can grow their own hearts.....................which means they're not actually nobodies

[teh lazy prince Xylek 1,559]

so what happens when a nobody grows a heart then their heartless is killed (or undarknessed by a keyblade whatever) does then, that said nobody get their first heart back? CAN THEY HAVE TWO HEARTS? #doubleheart

[VisitJoan 2,713]

A Nobody is a being that came into this world without a heart.  They are usually formed when a person with a strong will losses their heart.  Nobodies can grow their own hearts, but they were created without one.

[Guest]

Aah, I see. So essentially, Nobodies are puppets that grow a substitute heart over time?

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

Nobodies are empty shells who produce a burgeoning replacement of a heart. It is not a true heart; merely a placeholder just like these dates for KH3 that we see on websites like Amazon. They are there until the true date is revealed.