X Back Cover: Over 100 years ago = Ancient?

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

There's something I don't get. We have heard the Keyblade War has been referred to as ancient and the graveyard as ancient. Ancient refers to taking place thousands of years ago during Egypt, China, Greece, and Rome and so on. In the article from Dengeki that X Back Cover shows the events leading up to the Keyblade War over 100 years ago. Wait a minute! Ancient is thousands of years ago, not just 100. Is it inferring that sometime definitely over 100 years ago, but not sure when, the Keyblade War took place? I also don't recall Nomura himself confirming that the Keyblade War took place just over 100 years ago, but through the games, he confirms it took place in the ancient times. Help me understand please!

Edited September 28, 2015 by KingdomHearts3

[Xyrn 7]

Really? Im just gonna leave this here... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ancient

[Yuya Sakaki 5,212]

Yeah, "ancient" doesn't necessarily mean "a thousand years ago." It just means "a long time ago." There's no exact number to define "ancient", but of course it'd have to be significantly big, and 100 fits that standard.

 

Peace!

[Joker 1,560]

yeah I feel like it was way more than a 100 years ago. Its said to be in the age of fairy tales. or unless it actually happned a lot sooner than that but veveryones memory was altered to think that it happened way closer than we thought

[Kingdomhe 1,362]

There's something I don't get. We have heard the Keyblade War has been referred to as ancient and the graveyard as ancient. Ancient refers to taking place thousands of years ago during Egypt, China, Greece, and Rome and so on. In the article from Dengeki that X Back Cover shows the events leading up to the Keyblade War over 100 years ago. Wait a minute! Ancient is thousands of years ago, not just 100. Is it inferring that sometime definitely over 100 years ago, but not sure when, the Keyblade War took place? I also don't recall Nomura himself confirming that the Keyblade War took place just over 100 years ago, but through the games, he confirms it took place in the ancient times. Help me understand please!

 

Really? Im just gonna leave this here... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ancient

this^ lol

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

Really? Im just gonna leave this here... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ancient

Yes really! Now will you help or be a wise guy? Answer my question please.

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

Oh yes, I do remember reading this in one of Nomura's interviews!  100 years is quite a lot, but a 1000 years would be significantly more ancient, but hey, if Nomura says it's 100, then it is what it is!  Whatever questions we may have on our mind will no doubt be answered when 2.8 rolls around, and then III!

[Xyrn 7]

Yes really! Now will you help or be a wise guy? Answer my question please.

 

I did answer your question by giving you the actual definition of the word 'Ancient' which is not just something thats over 1000 years old something 100 years old can be considered ancient. hell 3 inch floppy disks are ancient for example.

[ShadowKeyblade 219]

I think that may have been a translation error. Probably meant to say hundreds of years ago.

[Guest]

In the worlds of Kingdom Hearts, there is no definitive "past" "present" "future" eras per say as each and every world moves according to its own time axis.

 

As far as Kingdom Hearts X goes, for now, lets consider it as the most ancient of the entire series until proven otherwise.

[Ultima Spark 753]

I think that may have been a translation error. Probably meant to say hundreds of years ago.

 

No, it was "over 100 years" ago, which would imply a time period between 101-199 years (but usually closer to the more recent end), since "over X years ago" typically means something occurred around that time period, relatively speaking (ie. over ten years ago usually refers to something between 11-15 or somewhere about).

 

It is a suspiciously short time period, but it's possible that the Keyblade War fractured the setting so catastrophically that major memory (or other) alterations had to occur just to stabilise the world afterward and prevent it from happening again (thus the Keyblade War becoming legend only known through fragments as opposed to comparatively recent history).

 

(That being said, we don't know what world the "100 years ago" thing is relative to, and time seems to flow closely enough in most worlds [bar the Realm of Darkness] that the "different time axis" thing doesn't really matter much right now).

[Henne 150]

or unless it actually happned a lot sooner than that but veveryones memory was altered to think that it happened way closer than we thought

 

For all we know that could have happened.

 

However, I still think, that that would be strange.

[ShadowKeyblade 219]

No, it was "over 100 years" ago, which would imply a time period between 101-199 years (but usually closer to the more recent end), since "over X years ago" typically means something occurred around that time period, relatively speaking (ie. over ten years ago usually refers to something between 11-15 or somewhere about).

 

It is a suspiciously short time period, but it's possible that the Keyblade War fractured the setting so catastrophically that major memory (or other) alterations had to occur just to stabilise the world afterward and prevent it from happening again (thus the Keyblade War becoming legend only known through fragments as opposed to comparatively recent history).

 

(That being said, we don't know what world the "100 years ago" thing is relative to, and time seems to flow closely enough in most worlds [bar the Realm of Darkness] that the "different time axis" thing doesn't really matter much right now).

Do you speak japanese? If so, credible source, but as far as I'm concerned this is a translation error that was meant to say hundreds of years ago, which makes a hell of a lot more sense. It doesn't have to automatically be needlessly complicated with memory swapping and such.

[outbackjim21 83]

Yeah, im not a fan of this recent revelation as well, because now everything revolving around the keyblade war is just falling flat now, due to it not being this 1000 year ago battle, but instead tok place around a hundred years ago, i mean honestly, there are most definitely records of people living to 100 so SOMEONE in the entire kh universe had to have lived atleast toward the end of the war and had been one of the children that reformed the world into borders... The obivous answer is propbably kairi's grandmother, but it still takes away the mystery behind the war and also takes away xehanort's drive for wanting to know about it since his master was definitely someone who was alive during the war since xehanort is like 60+, and its safe to assume keyblade masters dont take on apprentices until they are middle aged, yet again making xehanort's drive to understand what happened kind of dumb.

I mean honestly do we as humans call world war 1 or 2 ancient, they were in the past and most people from world war 2 era are dead, but do we call the wars ancient? It just doesnt make sense, first nomura turns what was probably a really dark time period in KH lore into a kid friendly version (don't bring the "its meant for kids arguement to this, because this war is the source of all of KH's problems so it should be extremely dark) and now we have to deal with the fact that the war isnt even that epic in scope due to it taking place in the recent past... Chi has single handedly spit in my face as a KH fan, moreso than final mixes when they first came out overseas.

[Henne 150]

and now we have to deal with the fact that the war isnt even that epic in scope due to it taking place in the recent past... Chi has single handedly spit in my face as a KH fan, moreso than final mixes when they first came out overseas.

 

Despite hating that, too, I think, we should wait a bit and see. If, as someone said, their memories are manipulated it would make sense that no one really knows (anymore) what was going on which would still explain Xena's drive.

[The 13th Kenpachi 4,279]

Ancient at the bare minimum is 100 years.

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

Well, 100 years would JUST barely be hitting the qualifications of being considered "ancient" or at least old. Still, you're right in the sense that 100 years minimum is a bit too recent for an event that was described to be from time immemorial. It wouldn't even be enough to outlast a whole generation. Say if Xehanort was like, 92 years old or something before he fused with Terra. He would be just a decade or so short of the most significant event that happened to the hole universe. He would practically be as old as the war itself. But the fact that he is so unfamiliar with the actual events that happened and only has what legend and conjecture have told him as any amount of facts about the event, it would suggest that there is meant to be a far larger valley of time separating him from the war. So about 10 years difference isn't really believable from a storytelling standpoint, and even with the whole time-perspective memory alteration theory thingy, it would still be too convoluted to swallow, even for KH standards. I don't think even Doctor Who has gone that far in terms of entertainingly stupid space/time BS...unless I'm wrong, then someone please correct me.

 

I'm going to hedge my bets and say that this is a typo or translation error. Hopefully Nomura can enlighten us soon on the actual time placement of this period in the series, otherwise we'll either have to assume the time memory thing or even suggest that the length of a year is different in the KH universe...which is unlikely seeing as how Days is named. 358 days plus the 6 days Roxas spent in digi-Twilight Town and the 1 day when Sora finally awoke, adding up to 365, a full year in our world. And all the other worlds in the Realm of Light and In-Between seem to follow that same timeline considering how DiZ mused about them "remembering a good friend who had gone away for a year". So there goes that theory. But yeah, I'm with everyone else, a thousand years minimum sounds like a much more fitting gap of time for this war to really feel ancient enough for the context of events to make sense.

[Nero Kunivas 3,046]

100 Years ago is FAAAAAR too soon for the Keyblade War.

 

If this turns out to be true...then Nomura will be making a terrible mistake.