Why would Mickey not save Aqua? What do you think?

[Gwynbleidd 551]

I just want to start off that I was unsure whether this should be in this section or the 2.8 section, but let's get started.

 

I would just like to thank the user, Connected, for this idea that grew from my mind. The user's thread can be found here:http://kh13.com/forum/topic/90633-02-birth-by-sleep-takes-place-until-after-re-coded-volume-2-theory/?do=findComment&comment=1722834.

 

Anyway, I thought to myself why Mickey after being in the Realm of Darkness, and knowing Aqua was there, why didn't he save her? In Blank Points in Birth By Sleep's ending, we saw Mickey in the Realm of Darkness under the title, '0.2' which is now know to be 'a fragmentary passage'. The image below shows Mickey in the Realm of Darkness.

 

 

From this it is pretty likely that he is to make an appearance in A Fragmentary Passage, whether it be in the RoD, or as an introduction in which he confesses his secrets to Sora.

 

This takes place after BBS and before Kingdom Hearts 1. So, why is Aqua still in the Realm of Darkness after having met Mickey there? Did they get separated or is this just poor story planning? The epilogue of Re:Coded makes it out to be that Terra is the only one missing since Mickey knows about Aqua's whereabouts, yet she is still in the Realm of Darkness. Obviously this is all speculation, and I'd like to see us users thoughts.

 

What do you think about this idea?

[FlyingEggplant 116]

Maybe Mikey couldn't save Aqua and only himself or maybe Aqua wanted to stay to find something/someone and Mikey promised to come back and save her. i'm not really sure why he wouldn't save her these are some theorys of the top of my head

[Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) 3,859]

Are we sure she is still in the RoD? I know that no one has confirmed that she got out of there, but they might be a chance, unless the Ansem she met there was Ansem after KH1, but I just can't remember the conversation they had, so I can't figure out from what time that Ansem was.

 

Also, it hasn't been confirmed that Mickey actually saw Aqua in the RoD (you know, it's actually quite a big place, it would be hard for them to meet), although there is a big chance of this happening in A Fragmentary Passage.

[WakingDawn96 1,166]

I think it is Aqua who chose to stay in the Realm of Darkness. As for why, that I don't know, but it seems very likely that Aqua chose to stay behind for her own reason. That reason is what I think will be explain in the game, and that will lead into KH3!

[Master Eraqus 1,340]

Well, it has been confirmed that in 0.2, Aqua will recover 'unknown memories' and have an encounter. It's possible that Aqua reunited with Mickey in the Realm of Darkness and at some point, Mickey finds the Twilight Town card that he gives to Riku in Chain of Memories and ended up separating from her. Mickey was trying to make it to Riku but it was too far until he found a card to help him. The card could be the 'unknown memories'!

[teh lazy prince Xylek 1,559]

didn't ansem mention sora and aqua cried and looked out to the sea...or something? maybe shes waiting for sora?

[Ultima Spark 753]

Are we sure she is still in the RoD? I know that no one has confirmed that she got out of there, but they might be a chance, unless the Ansem she met there was Ansem after KH1, but I just can't remember the conversation they had, so I can't figure out from what time that Ansem was. Also, it hasn't been confirmed that Mickey actually saw Aqua in the RoD (you know, it's actually quite a big place, it would be hard for them to meet), although there is a big chance of this happening in A Fragmentary Passage.

The Ansem/Aqua conversation was post-KH2, he mentions Sora (and his exploits) to her.

[DemyxIsBest 367]

Can we not just wait until the game comes out I mean it's only going to be like 6 months

[Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) 3,859]

The Ansem/Aqua conversation was post-KH2, he mentions Sora (and his exploits) to her.

Great, I just couldn't remember it, the last time I saw it was at least 2 years ago.

[Hero of Light XIV 2,381]

Circumstances probably prevented him from being able to help Aqua. If they met up, it's likely that they got separated. Maybe she helped Mickey find the Kingdom Key D, but then afterwards they got split up (probably due to a boss, a huge tremor, or some other plot device). From that point Mickey would have met up with Riku, closed the door, then they would all be stuck in the RoD again, and then Riku would be washed up in Castle Oblivion while Mickey would be left behind, possibly to catch up with Aqua again, only to be swept away by the card that DiZ used to send Mickey to C.O. From that point on, Aqua was likely alone in the RoD for the remaining days and months up until Blank Points. There's probably many twists and turns this story could take, so long as it satisfies a 5 to 10 hour gameplay experience. X3

[Revolart 431]

I would assume that the Realm of Darkness is one gigantic maze. You can get in easy but getting lost is even easier .Then there is the problem of getting out which is difficult. And based on the current circumstances in which Xehanort is a big threat , I don't think Mickey would risk himself or the others getting lost in RoD and not being to get out with Aqua for a long time,at least not until he or Yen Sid came up better solutions..

Edited September 17, 2015 by Revolution23

[TheDanMan 8]

Isn't the RoD an entire, well, realm in iteslf? I'd imagine it's vast, as a representation of all the Darkness in the worlds. They easily could have just never met eachother.

Alternatively, she needed to stay for some important reason that Mickey withheld until now.

[Kaweebo 3,617]

I always thought it was weird, though, that they would meet up in the RoD at all. In Blank Points, Aqua seems unaware that the worlds were in danger at all, yet if Mickey met up with her during KHI, wouldn't he have told her what's going on? Something fishy is afoot...

[Kristi Adham 2]

I just want to start off that I was unsure whether this should be in this section or the 2.8 section, but let's get started.

 

I would just like to thank the user, Connected, for this idea that grew from my mind. The user's thread can be found here:http://kh13.com/forum/topic/90633-02-birth-by-sleep-takes-place-until-after-re-coded-volume-2-theory/?do=findComment&comment=1722834.

 

Anyway, I thought to myself why Mickey after being in the Realm of Darkness, and knowing Aqua was there, why didn't he save her? In Blank Points in Birth By Sleep's ending, we saw Mickey in the Realm of Darkness under the title, '0.2' which is now know to be 'a fragmentary passage'. The image below shows Mickey in the Realm of Darkness.

 

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From this it is pretty likely that he is to make an appearance in A Fragmentary Passage, whether it be in the RoD, or as an introduction in which he confesses his secrets to Sora.

 

This takes place after BBS and before Kingdom Hearts 1. So, why is Aqua still in the Realm of Darkness after having met Mickey there? Did they get separated or is this just poor story planning? The epilogue of Re:Coded makes it out to be that Terra is the only one missing since Mickey knows about Aqua's whereabouts, yet she is still in the Realm of Darkness. Obviously this is all speculation, and I'd like to see us users thoughts.

 

What do you think about this idea?

where did you find that picture? when did that happen?

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

Only reason I could think of is that he was unable to.

[Gwynbleidd 551]

where did you find that picture? when did that happen?

It is at the end of Birth By Sleep in the Final and Secret Episode.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Well two things besides what others have already mentioned:

 

1. What happened in BBS and whatnot wasn't planned or thought of yet when KH1 was made but also Nomura can easily work with this since he leaves some things open ended or unknown like this. This may leave inconsistencies sometimes.

 

2. Because Re: Coded infers they do indeed know her whereabouts at the very least, we have to figure that's a clue. So did Mickey find her but get separated somehow? Quite possibly and that's prolly how I see Nomura explaining this since he's writing the plot as he goes and he can fit the pieces of the puzzle in as he sees fit. Why haven't we heard much about that until much later in the series? Because he's writing it as he goes You just got to roll with it sometimes I guess. 

[Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) 3,859]

Well two things besides what others have already mentioned:

 

1. What happened in BBS and whatnot wasn't planned or thought of yet when KH1 was made but also Nomura can easily work with this since he leaves some things open ended or unknown like this.

 

2. Because Re: Coded infers they do indeed know her whereabouts at the very least, we have to figure that's a clue. So did Mickey find her but get separated somehow? Quite possibly and that's prolly how I see Nomura explaining this since he's writing the plot as he goes and he can fit the pieces of the puzzle in as he sees fit. Why haven't we heard much about that until much later in the series? Because he's writing it as he goes You just got to roll with it sometimes I guess. 

 

I think this thing you said here (the one in bold) was actually confirmed by Nomura himself indirectly: while KH3's story developing, I remember reading that Nomura didn't know what role to give to a ceirtan character in KH3 (I think it was Ventus), when he had already started developing it's story; this sort of explains that Nomura writes the story as he goes in some cases.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I think this thing you said here (the one in bold) was actually confirmed by Nomura himself indirectly: while KH3's story developing, I remember reading that Nomura didn't know what role to give to a ceirtan character in KH3 (I think it was Ventus), when he had already started developing it's story; this sort of explains that Nomura writes the story as he goes in some cases.

 

Yes he's confirmed in a couple interviews he hadn't planned everything from the start and he writes as he goes. He was still writing DDD when it went into production and it was thrown together quickly.

• Speaking of the previous titles, about when do you start thinking of the “next title”?

It’s a gradual process. When Kingdom Hearts was in production, I was considering ideas for Kingdom Hearts II and Chain of Memories. And when those two were in production, I was thinking of ideas for the next three, 358/2 Days, Coded, and Birth by Sleep.

 

• Were you thinking of KH3D when those 3 titles were in production?

KH3D was put together relatively quickly, I was still concepting the story when I brought it to the table.

• When the first KINGDOM HEARTS was released, we did not know that the series would continue over the years to reach its tenth birthday. The story chronicles the Seeker of Darkness has it developed progressively games, or did you have in mind an idea of the overall story of this saga from the beginning?

Nomura : When I created the first KINGDOM HEARTS, I did not have a clear vision of the history of the Seeker of Darkness, but I was already thinking of the KINGDOM HEARTS II and Chain of Memories. I knew at that time that there were two additional games after the first KINGDOM HEARTS. Later, when I finished KINGDOM HEARTS Chain of Memories, I had other plans: Birth by Sleep, 358/2 Days and coded. This is kind of what happened in the history of the series: I did not have a clear idea of the whole story from the beginning, but it is built over time.

[gingienator 278]

I'm onto Mickey's tail about this.

It does seem suspicious that he kept this a secret for a long time.

 

But, I think there might've been something big trying to reach the Realm of Light

and Aqua probably chose to stay and make sure it doesn't surface to the above grounds.

 

Or maybe Aqua just chose to stay.

Maybe theres something that could help in battle.

Nobody really knows.

 

One things for sure is that Sora and everyone else would probably have a big reaction as to why Mickey would just leave her behind

[KH4Real 749]

After thinking for a long time she understands that it is the best to stay in protection for Xehanort.

He knows she would be the last one with Ventus cause Terra is with him.

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

Well, it could very well be that they actually cross paths and reunite in the Realm Of Darkness, and they might even travel together for a while!  But then, near the end of A Fragmentary Passage, maybe the two of them get overrun by ridiculous amounts of Heartless, and Aqua decides to stay and buy Mickey some time to get out! Mickey would at first hesitate, but Aqua would not let him stay, and maybe that's why he didn't bring back Aqua!

 

Just my two cents, though. x3

[Gwynbleidd 551]

Can we not just wait until the game comes out I mean it's only going to be like 6 months

Nope. It's more fun to speculate. I'm sure for Kingdom Hearts 3 it is more fun to speculate than wait and do nothing.

[Kristi Adham 2]

It is at the end of Birth By Sleep in the Final and Secret Episode.

of final mix or of the original one? cause I can't remember it

[Master Eraqus 1,340]

of final mix or of the original one? cause I can't remember it

It's exclusive to Final Mix.