Ansem The Wise in KHIII

[Seyin95 175]

Ansem The Wise as a character has always intrigued me, I have always found there to be more than meets the eye with him, anyway I was wondering what capacity he would appear in KH3? I was re-watching Blank Points earlier and the fact he mentions he is waiting for his birth by sleep suggests he will possibly return? I mean Aqua as far as we know is still with him in the Realm of Darkness, so it makes sense to rescue him too, surely? Also with regards to KH3D, the data version of Ansem tells Riku that his data is stored within Sora to rescue those we thought were lost, this has been such a vague topic, the data could be anything and as far as we know could be linked to the Key to Return Hearts, I know Ansem lost his memories, but I still feel as if he will return in some form in KH3. Thanks for reading

[Vexen 73]

Seemingly, everyone who has been lost in the KH-series will come back, so why not?

[Bewilde 72]

Ansem The Wise is definitely an intriguing character. He's been someone very pinnacle to the whole Xehanort Saga , plus was marvellously voiced by the late Christopher Lee in KH2. I feel like he should return in KH3, but only resides in the Realm of Darkness, and Sora and the crew meet him when rescuing Aqua. My idea is that he feels like he doesn't deserve to return to the Realm of Light due to all the chaos he's caused because of his selfishness and would like to ultimately meet his demise in the RoD. Maybe when our heroes meets him he explains the data that was placed inside Sora, just before he completely forgets everything. But yeah, like yourself, I'd love to see him again in KH3. 

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

This is a pretty good topic!  And you know, I was just thinking, what if Sora unlocks the data Ansem The Wise implanted in him during the events of Kingdom Hearts III? When he unlocks the data, he could see a projection, or a sort of form of Ansem The Wise, who would then proceed to guide him through the purpose of the data he implanted in him!  It would be pretty cool!  And after reading the comments here, I also strongly think that Bewilde's theory is really good!  Ansem The Wise has always been an enigma, and he may very well remain that way.  But, in his own small way, he'll contribute to the final confrontation against Xehanort and the Seekers Of Darkness!

[Guest]

For Kingdom Hearts Chi, some people believe that the Foretellers are reincarnations of Riku, Kairi, Ventua, Terra, Aqua and Xehanort. 

 

To add to this theory, I think that the Master Foreteller is a reincarnation of Ansem The Wise. Sure, it can be argued that he doesn't have a Keyblade, however, what's not to say that he's gone all Yen Sid and prefers not to use it? 

[Seyin95 175]

This is the speculation side of things, but I welcome everybody's views, now if we are going to theorise about a few things, we could compare whom Ansem shares a connection with- from the GoL, Ansem knows personally Mickey, Riku and Sora ( he does know Kairi and Lea and whilst they probably will be GOLs they haven't been confirmed 100% yet) so they would have a reason to help him due to friendship etc. On the SoDs we know Saix, Xigbar, Xemnas and if they return which I think they will Terranort and if they use Apprentice Xehanort ( time travel...) then these people overthrew him and forced him to the Realm of Darkness before so there is potential conflict. From the neutral perspective the other ex members of the organisation too were part of the coup, yet may or may not accept him back and I think it was HMK who awhile ago mentioned Luxord could be his son ( this actually makes sense- similar hair colour, skin tone and they even both have British accents, which could be more important that we thought) so Ansem certainly isn't lacking friends and enemies, so his story could be vastly expanded in KH3. And as we usual see the worlds in the credits, why not have him return to Radiant Garden as the Sage King again?

[Guest]

  On 9/9/2015 at 1:15 PM, Seyin95 said:

This is the speculation side of things, but I welcome everybody's views, now if we are going to theorise about a few things, we could compare whom Ansem shares a connection with- from the GoL, Ansem knows personally Mickey, Riku and Sora ( he does know Kairi and Lea and whilst they probably will be GOLs they haven't been confirmed 100% yet) so they would have a reason to help him due to friendship etc. On the SoDs we know Saix, Xigbar, Xemnas and if they return which I think they will Terranort and if they use Apprentice Xehanort ( time travel...) then these people overthrew him and forced him to the Realm of Darkness before so there is potential conflict. From the neutral perspective the other ex members of the organisation too were part of the coup, yet may or may not accept him back and I think it was HMK who awhile ago mentioned Luxord could be his son ( this actually makes sense- similar hair colour, skin tone and they even both have British accents, which could be more important that we thought) so Ansem certainly isn't lacking friends and enemies, so his story could be vastly expanded in KH3. And as we usual see the worlds in the credits, why not have him return to Radiant Garden as the Sage King again?

 

Wow, you just made me come up with an interesting theory... Ansem The Wise is not a Radiant Garden resident. He was from another world and his children were Luxord and Ventus.

[Seyin95 175]

  On 9/9/2015 at 9:06 PM, Alpha Baymax said:

Wow, you just made me come up with an interesting theory... Ansem The Wise is not a Radiant Garden resident. He was from another world and his children were Luxord and Ventus.

Seriously, the Luxord one is plausible and since we don't even know Luxord's real name anything could be believable, and if Luxord doesn't appear in Radiant Garden, your theory could be valid.

[Guest]

  On 9/10/2015 at 12:42 AM, Seyin95 said:

Seriously, the Luxord one is plausible and since we don't even know Luxord's real name anything could be believable, and if Luxord doesn't appear in Radiant Garden, your theory could be valid.

 

I'm serious here too. The same can be applied for Ventus before he was taken by Master Xehanort. What was his life before he was taken as an apprentice by Master Xehanort? We cannot just limit this theory to Luxord. Here's what I think may have happened.

 

Ansem The Wise took care of a young Luxord and a very young Ventus. He then got an invitation for a research project in Radiant Garden to better understand the dynamics of Light and Darkness. Luxord was against Ansem leaving him and Ventus as he was unaware as to when he returned. Ansem tried to make Luxord understand his perspective, however, they ended in bitter terms. 

 

This is why Ansem The Wise treats Ienzo as his own son... it is a reminder of Ventus... but wait? If Ansem was in bitter terms with Luxord, why can he no longer contact Ventus? simple: Master Xehanort, more specfically, Adult Master Xehanort took Ventus away without Ansem's consent. Luxord was too stubborn and hurt to respond to any messages that Ansem was sending him.

 

Luxord, keeping with his nature of gambling his fate, he decided to give Ventus away to a Keyblade Master who could raise him better than his father Ansem. Through this, Master Xehanort was able to keep an eye on Luxord and make him into a potential vessel if Ventus fails, however, later down the line, Terra harbored more darkness than Luxord, however, he hasn't dismissed Luxord entirely as me may be a seeker! 

Edited September 10, 2015 by Guest

[Gwynbleidd 551]

He's in the Realm of Darkness with Aqua right now, both awaiting their birth by Sleep.

[LETTERSE7EN 54]

  On 9/9/2015 at 1:15 PM, Seyin95 said:

This is the speculation side of things, but I welcome everybody's views, now if we are going to theorise about a few things, we could compare whom Ansem shares a connection with- from the GoL, Ansem knows personally Mickey, Riku and Sora ( he does know Kairi and Lea and whilst they probably will be GOLs they haven't been confirmed 100% yet) so they would have a reason to help him due to friendship etc. On the SoDs we know Saix, Xigbar, Xemnas and if they return which I think they will Terranort and if they use Apprentice Xehanort ( time travel...) then these people overthrew him and forced him to the Realm of Darkness before so there is potential conflict. From the neutral perspective the other ex members of the organisation too were part of the coup, yet may or may not accept him back and I think it was HMK who awhile ago mentioned Luxord could be his son ( this actually makes sense- similar hair colour, skin tone and they even both have British accents, which could be more important that we thought) so Ansem certainly isn't lacking friends and enemies, so his story could be vastly expanded in KH3. And as we usual see the worlds in the credits, why not have him return to Radiant Garden as the Sage King again?

Woah, never really thought about this..Ansem is too big a character not to include in this next game..and if the chessboard theory about Luxord is right, and they didn't expand on his story a bit, i'd be very disappointed. We dont know a single thing about Luxord, it'd be a waste of a SoD if they didnt expand. The ansem theory seems very plausible..it would do a lot to make both characters relevant..