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I really don't know what they're intending to do with Vanitas.  Wasn't his story kind of resolved, though?  I partly fear that we may not see him again, but I certainly hope that we do.  Still, you have a pretty cool theory there. ; )

We need him and Ventus to fight once more so the x-blade can be forged!

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That wasn't the correct way anymore remember. MX was wrong. He needs the 13 vs 7 for this very reason. Blame DDD retconning this :P

I've got a question about that...MX was wrong..13 darknesses vs 7 lights and blah blah blah...but didnt it work? Didn't we see the XBlade for ourselves? I'm not calling you wrong, im just saying that that's a pretty crappy retcon don't you think?

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I've got a question about that...MX was wrong..13 darknesses vs 7 lights and blah blah blah...but didnt it work? Didn't we see the XBlade for ourselves? I'm not calling you wrong, im just saying that that's a pretty crappy retcon don't you think?

It's a very crappy retcon. And the merge wasn't complete in BBS so it didn't completely work. Originally in BBS we thought they didn't merge completely bc Aqua and Ven fought it off but DDD changed this. The "original" prophecy was the Xblade was split into 20 pieces- 7 light ( the 7 PoH hearts are the light pieces) and 13 dark ( we don't know the current locations of the original 13 dark pieces) MX is using 13 manufactured ones as substitutes. 

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he'll probably be the comic relief, if anything

who?

 

It's a very crappy retcon. And the merge wasn't complete in BBS so it didn't completely work. Originally in BBS we thought they didn't merge completely bc Aqua and Ven fought it off but DDD changed this. The "original" prophecy was the Xblade was split into 20 pieces- 7 light ( the 7 PoH hearts are the light pieces) and 13 dark ( we don't know the current locations of the original 13 dark pieces) MX is using 13 manufactured ones as substitutes. 

interesting..I wonder if those original dark pieces will ever come into play

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vanitas

it was a shot at how in BBS most of the things he did were laughable, like getting his arse kicked and then strutting off like "pfft yea i meant for that to happen." 

Oh that's my fault lol, should've just read the Topic Title and figured..I was so wrapped up in the 13 vs 7 thing..

 

But if he does come back, I'd like for him to get defeated and stay that way..I have a friend that thinks He'll be jealous of Ventus and his friends and that we'll start to see some redeeming qualities within him. Now, I like the idea of Vanitas (if you couldn't guess), but I think we should see the end of him in this game. And it should be either Sora or Ventus that gets to take him out.

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Oh that's my fault lol, should've just read the Topic Title and figured..I was so wrapped up in the 13 vs 7 thing..

 

But if he does come back, I'd like for him to get defeated and stay that way..I have a friend that thinks He'll be jealous of Ventus and his friends and that we'll start to see some redeeming qualities within him. Now, I like the idea of Vanitas (if you couldn't guess), but I think we should see the end of him in this game. And it should be either Sora or Ventus that gets to take him out.

lol nah you're fine

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who?

 

interesting..I wonder if those original dark pieces will ever come into play

 I have thought about this and wonder if it will play a part in MX's demise since he always manages to screw up his own plans bc of ignoring or underestimating other factors.

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The only for Vanitas to return, is for his consciousness (that is possibly inside of Ven's heart) to appear as an illusion. That only Sora can see and talk to. That doppelganger might criticize Sora for being too trusting. And use Riku, Lea/Axel, and Neku as examples. Like these below.

 

"You trusted that red headed, spikey haired guy, even when he's the one who got Kairi kidnapped in the first place!"

 

"If you didn't trust Neku, you would have avoided gettin ambushed back in the sleeping Traverse Town."

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That wasn't the correct way anymore remember. MX was wrong. He needs the 13 vs 7 for this very reason. Blame DDD retconning this :P

 

Maybe the forge between Ventus and Vanitas created a piece that was a "X-blade", however, he realised that it wasn't the key for Kingdom Hearts to be unlocked.

 

Back to topic, I want Vanitas mask to be revealed at San Fransokyo. Mickey would probably be the most gobsmacked as he knew Vanitas the longest.

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Maybe the forge between Ventus and Vanitas created a piece that was a "X-blade", however, he realised that it wasn't the key for Kingdom Hearts to be unlocked.

 

Back to topic, I want Vanitas mask to be revealed at San Fransokyo. Mickey would probably be the most gobsmacked as he knew Vanitas the longest.

 Sorry but I think it was a case of straight up retcon :P I mean that's a huge mistake being that it's 1 vs 1 then 13 vs 7..He wasn't one or two off :P

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Exactly. Plus that did not look like a piece of an Xblade. It was a whole keyblade.

If you're referring to Alpha Baymax's post, he didn't say "a piece of a X-Blade" but "a piece that was a X-Blade". 

Of course he will be back!

We have to fight him and Dark Baymax while riding on the good Baymax. Epic fight!!

(watched BH6 again yesterday, I'm so hyped for it xD)

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This has not much to do with Vanitas, but I've been thinking that if the X-Blade was shattered into 20 pieces and 7 of those pieces are the 7 Princesses's hearts of pure light, then the Keyblade of Hearts from KH1 wielded by Riku-Ansem was something like a half X-Blade, right? Because it was made with the hearts of all Princesses except Kairi's.

Should that keyblade have been completed with Kairi's heart, it would be technically the light half of the X-Blade.

 

What if master xehanort's keyblade was made of the 13 pieces of darkness? His keyblade is the most ancient in existence and it is implied that it has something unique to it (a will that is passed on), and looks really evil and dark. The X-Blade seen on BBS looked like two crossed Kingdom keys. Maybe the real X-Blade looks similar, but the two keyblades composing it are Master Xehanort's Keyblade crossed with the complete keyblade of the Princesses' hearts.

That would be the reason why the 13 Xehanort incarnations are after the 7 princesses, to get the light half of the X-Blade, and fuse it with the dark half. That way they would not be recreating their own version of the X-Blade but the REAL one with the original pieces. There are many Xehanorts to ensure that al least one would survive and forge the X-Blade, because as the 13 bear xehanort's heart, all would be able to wield MX's Keyblade.

And all the story about the seven guardians and 13 seekers is just a distorted version of the truth elaborated by Xehanort. He is too smart to reveal the true nature of his plans as he seems to do in KH3D, that's suspicious.

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