How would Xion return given the events of 358 Days / 2?

[Gwynbleidd 551]

Quite simply, how would Xion return in Kingdom Hearts 3? Surely for her to return, Sora would have to enter a deep slumber again, since Sora could not awaken when she existed as she possessed fragments of his memory? This raises the question: How would Xion return given the events of 358 Days/2?

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Because she developed her own heart and therefore her own separate self. As DDD said, anything can grow a heart - even a puppet. Ansem the Wise explained it in the end well and his hidden data is the key to bringing back fallen friends as also stated. 

 

I think if they could extract hearts they could possibly give them psuedo bodies like Sora had when Kairi hugged and purified him in KH1. After all he was a walking heart afterwards up until he merged with Roxas in KH2. Technically he was existing just fine until Namine had to put him asleep to fix his memories. So he doesn't need to be put into a deep slumber.

Edited August 8, 2015 by Flaming Lea

[lostmemory123 1,056]

Disney magic and whimsy is usually the answer in this situation.

[EternalChange 303]

I agree with Flaming Lea for the most part. But it's already been established that Sora coming back to his previous form in KH1 was a special case, and it's unlikely that something like that could ever happen again. Not to mention that even if Xion did come back as she was, it would be in her unstable puppet body that sucked power out of Sora and Roxas, because that's how everyone knew her to be. No, I think that with Vexen's help, they could form Xion an entirely new body---one that was stable and could exist by its own power.

Edited August 8, 2015 by SarcasmAbounds

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

I agree with Flaming Lea for the most part. But it's already been established that Sora coming back to his previous form in KH1 was a special case, and it's unlikely that it could ever be repeated. Not to mention that even if Xion did come back as she was, it would be in her unstable puppet body that sucked power out of Sora and Roxas, because that's how everyone knew her to be. No, I think that with Vexen's help, they could form Xion an entirely new body---one that was stable and could exist by its own power.

 

Special bc Kairi was a PoH for one. Why couldn't she do it again? We don't know the extent of the power. Namine didn't even have a physical body either and she was the result of a PoH. ( and Sora) Secondly, if Xion came back as her own separate person from her own separate heart she wouldn't be coming to existence as a replica again like she existed the first time around so there wouldn't be that issue of sharing power.Her appearance would be what people remembered her to be.

Edited August 8, 2015 by Flaming Lea

[Nero Kunivas 3,046]

If Vexen, technically Even, can make her a more stable body if they got her Heart somehow, then perhaps.

 

But technically, since she was erased from most of existence, what remains of her seem like mere echoes.

 

And the nature of her existence caused her to be forgotten, as she was merely sustained by Memories. Memories that, upon mortal injury, were released, de-stabilizing her existence and the lasting memory in the minds of others.

 

In fact, when I saw her in DDD, I wasn't sad for her, I was angry. Because they said in 358/2 that she was gone forever and now she suddenly has a place in Sora's Heart? No. For all intensive purposes: She is canonically dead to me and there's no way for her to come back as she really would have no role.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

If Vexen, technically Even, can make her a more stable body if they got her Heart somehow, then perhaps.

 

But technically, since she was erased from most of existence, what remains of her seem like mere echoes.

 

And the nature of her existence caused her to be forgotten, as she was merely sustained by Memories. Memories that, upon mortal injury, were released, de-stabilizing her existence and the lasting memory in the minds of others.

 

In fact, when I saw her in DDD, I wasn't sad for her, I was angry. Because they said in 358/2 that she was gone forever and now she suddenly has a place in Sora's Heart? No. >.> For all intensive purposes: She is canonically dead to me and there's no way for her to come back as she really would have no role.

 

I think people are forgetting if she grew her own heart like stated in DDD her existence is no longer based off Sora's memories. By growing her own heart therefore her own identity separate from Sora just like Roxas grew his own separate heart separate from Sora both her and Roxas can be brought back as their own separate beings. This is what was explained in DDD especially by Ansem the Wise and the way his hidden data can help bring these people back.

 

What body they use and how they get it hasn't been explained yet and they could go in many directions with that. Watch the ending with Ansem the Wise again.

[Nero Kunivas 3,046]

I think people are forgetting if she grew her own heart like stated in DDD her existence is no longer based off Sora's memories. By growing her own heart therefore her own identity separate from Sora just like Roxas grew his own separate heart separate from Sora both her and Roxas can be brought back as their own separate beings. This is what was explained in DDD especially by Ansem the Wise and the way his hidden data can help bring these people back.

 

What body they use and how they get it hasn't been explained yet and they could go in many directions with that. Watch the ending with Ansem the Wise again.

But didn't he just mention Nobodies?

 

I don't recall any Puppets being mentioned to be able to grow Hearts or gain new bodies.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

But didn't he just mention Nobodies?

 

I don't recall any Puppets being mentioned to be able to grow Hearts or gain new bodies.

 

He said Sora could use that data to bring back his fallen comrades. And puppets growing hearts were mentioned several times by him and others throughout DDD. Also when referring to these friends look who was featured in that scene. Go watch it again lol

[Nero Kunivas 3,046]

He said Sora could use that data to bring back his fallen comrades. And puppets growing hearts were mentioned several times by him and others throughout DDD. Also when referring to these friends look who was featured in that scene. Go watch it again lol

So, Ansem basically uncovered the secret to Resurrection?

 

Hmm...perhaps my memory is off. Sorry. X3

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

So, Ansem basically uncovered the secret to Resurrection?

 

Hmm...perhaps my memory is off. Sorry. X3

 

Ansem pretty much spelled out their return. He just didn't go into specifics about stuff like bodies but I'm guessing that hidden data will help Sora figure it out. That and the key to return hearts. We don't know much about that too.

[Nero Kunivas 3,046]

Ansem pretty much spelled out their return. He just didn't go into specifics about stuff like bodies but I'm guessing that hidden data will help Sora figure it out. That and the key to return hearts. We don't know much about that too.

This all feels like an elaborate scheme by Nomura to allow others in KH to cheat death.

 

Or just over-elaborateness because Nomura.  

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

This all feels like an elaborate scheme by Nomura to allow others in KH to cheat death.

 

Or just over-elaborateness because Nomura.

 

Well exactly! No denying that!

[Wyatt Tyson 66]

Anything with a Heart and connected to Sora can return. Even puppets. I stopped trying to make much sense of the series long ago

[Green Sparrow 795]

She could return easily! Unfortunately, I can't give you the correct answer until KH3 comes out next year. Don't worry, I'll get back to you on this!

[VisitJoan 2,713]

Think about it. If the body can grow a heart, can't the heart grow a body? Plus with the data recived in DDD I'd say anything is possible at this point.

[matteso586 115]

My guess would be the same way one of the deceased Batman villains did in Arkham Knight.

 

Now that I think about, KH3 might include a flashback detailing more on what Xion went through between her conversation with Namine, and merging with Roxas.

[Komali 594]

Who is Xion?

[Dave 5,715]

Disney magic and whimsy is usually the answer in this situation.

 

But Disney would just keep her dead. 

[lostmemory123 1,056]

But Disney would just keep her dead. 

How could he do that when his head is still frozen?

[Klonoa the Dream Traveler 678]

How could he do that when his head is still frozen?

That's just a rumor.

Also, Xion doesn't deserves to come back from Sora heart. She had her big moment in days.

[Guest]

Special bc Kairi was a PoH for one. Why couldn't she do it again? We don't know the extent of the power. Namine didn't even have a physical body either and she was the result of a PoH. ( and Sora) Secondly, if Xion came back as her own separate person from her own separate heart she wouldn't be coming to existence as a replica again like she existed the first time around so there wouldn't be that issue of sharing power.Her appearance would be what people remembered her to be.

 

Thing is, even though Xion is remembered as the brunnet girl with Kairi's Kingdom Hearts 1 appearance: that is still technically not her own unique identity. I agree and understand that it's inevitably foreshadowed that she will gain her own heart, however, that appearance of hers is still "based off Sora's memory of Kairi". Vexen designed her to be nothing more than that. Besides, Braig/Xigbar seen Xion as Ventus as she was a failsafe in case Roxas ended up a disappointment and Saix seen her as nothing more than a faceless hooded robe.

 

She needs something aside her experiences to justify her being a unique character in the Kingdom Hearts series.

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Thing is, even though Xion is remembered as the brunnet girl with Kairi's Kingdom Hearts 1 appearance: that is still technically not her own unique identity. I agree and understand that it's inevitably foreshadowed that she will gain her own heart, however, that appearance of hers is still "based off Sora's memory of Kairi". Vexen designed her to be nothing more than that. Besides, Braig/Xigbar seen Xion as Ventus as she was a failsafe in case Roxas ended up a disappointment and Saix seen her as nothing more than a faceless hooded robe.

 

She needs something aside her experiences to justify her being a unique character in the Kingdom Hearts series.

 

She will be remembered as those close to her saw her that formed emotions, experiences and memories ( what a growing heart is made from) Yes Vexen designed her as that but he didn't design her to grow her own heart and identity and thats his fatal flaw in both Repliku and Xion. Her being a black haired Kairi is similiar to the Roxas issue since he grew his own heart but he will still look like Ven. He looked like that to his friends so he will look like that when he returns. Xion will look like the black haired Kairi bc when she had formed a friendship with people and became close to her they saw her as the black haired Kairi appearance which both Axel and Roxas saw her as. At first neither Roxas or Axel saw her as that until they got to know her better then they started seeing her that way. Also the line at the end of Kh2 with Namine and Roxas proves this as well stating that "I think I understand.I see myself the way you remember me and you see yourself the way I remember you."

 

I hate to break it to all you guys who don't want their return.It's happening whether you want it or like it. Nomura has set it up that way regardless if you think it's justifiable. 

Edited August 9, 2015 by Flaming Lea

[Solstice 749]

Wasn't Xion "erased" to focus on Sora getting his memories back?

Edited August 9, 2015 by KHRealm20012

[HarLea Quinn 26,501]

Wasn't Xion "erased" to focus on Sora getting his memories back?

 

Read my posts on this thread or watch the DDD cutscenes. Better yet, both. lol