Xaldin and Vexen's Return in Kingdom Hearts III

[Goten124 8]

Now something that I've noticed and wondered for a while (though idk if anyone else has ever touched up on in) is that when we see Lea wake up in KH3D Ienzo and Aeleus do as well. Weirdly enough Dilan and Even remain asleep/unconscious with their faces covered though their bodies are stable. I think that this hints at the appearance/return of their nobodies: Xaldin and Vexen as villians. More specifically, they could be Seekers of Darkness or maybe they'll be manipulated by Xehanort from behind the scenes as like pawns to finish off Lea.

Now I know that neither Xaldin or Vexen have the main Xehanort characteristic being the obvious Golden eyes but I do think there is a great chance that these two members in particular are apart of the True Organization. First off it would make sense, I mean look at their roles in the Original Organization XIII: Xaldin was certainly a high-up member who had the 2nd highest throne at Where Nothing Gathers and was definitely of the more loyal members as was Saïx and Xigbar to Xemnas. As for Vexen, he too was a loyal member. Though he was treated as weak and I believe he had one of the lowest thrones he was still a founding member and extremely loyal. Xemnas himself even mentioned that he had not wanted Vexen to die. The scientist, Vexen plays a huge role to the Organization and his replica-creating skills could be essential to Master Xehanort. Another notable seen is when Zexion and Xigbar spoke of the Chamber of Repose. Vexen mentions that he wishes to see Lord Xemnas, but for what? This may be a pointer of Vexen's loyalty to Xemnas and perhaps they and the others were planning something for a while. Even as their "somebodies" they seemed mysterious to say the least. First, Xaldin and Vexen were ranks III and IV in the Org. next to Xigbar and Xemnas. Secondly, notice that Dilan was present alongside Braig and Ansem when Terra/Xehanort arrived in Radiant Garden while Aeleus wasn't present(the 3rd guard). Even Even's somebody seemed like he knew something that the others didn't.

But why would Dilan/Xaldin and Even/Vexen be chosen as vessels rather than Ienzo/Zexion and Aeleus/Lexaeus? I think that though Zexion was obviously a high member as well, he had to much values and probably relied on his past memories more than the true goal (like how he mentions to Vexen that the Organization was what kept them together). In turn Lexaeus also seems somewhat loyal to Zexion. Not to mention the fact that Zexion was also Saïx's target for power (though Xaldin and Xigbar weren't).

As for how come their bodies remain unconscious as opposed to Saïx and Xigbar's there are a couple of things I could think of. First off maybe when Young Xehanort came to retrieve Isa as his new vessel in the re:coded secret ending, Dilan and Even were left behind with Lea and Ienzo because Isa was already a complete vessel as we've seen his golden eyes and pointed ears already. Perhaps Dilan and Even's bodies need more time to recover OR the bodies that were left behind are still empty shells and the Xaldin and Vexen that will be apart of the True Org. are from a different time period and because of the time traveling laws the body left behind is the awakened Dilan and Even who are now unconscious.

 

Just imagine Ienzo,Aeleus and maybe Lea turning around Dilan/Even's body to see yellow Xehanort eyes, or a blank face. If my theory is true then I think a Lea story would work perfectly (as long as Sora's story is the central story ofcourse). Imagine Ienzo and Aeleus as Party members for Lea. This is most likely not going to ever happen but hey why not atleast put the idea out there. And i mean it would work perfectly: Aeleus would take Goofy's role as the Strength/Defense based party while Ienzo would be Magic based. Their purpose could be to find,and recover the hearts of, Isa (for Lea), Dilan (for Aeleus) and Even (for Ienzo). Even if they aren't exactly playable or party I think this would be a pretty good side story.One last thing to support my theory: when looking at the latest E3 trailer and its famous chess scene there is one piece, actually 2 pieces that I saw that could've represented Even/Dilan. First is the famous six pointed star that no one seems to know whom it could belong to. Many have said that this could be a flower to represent Marluxia. However I don't believe that cherry blossoms have six petals either. I saw this piece to represent Xaldin. As we know he weilds SIX Lances, and has SIX letters in his name which could very well be symbolic of a six pointed star. However this was a little too unlikely to me. Instead I noticed something else: as a boss and playable character Xaldin does this attack when casting a spell that forms an actual six pointed star [i'll post an image].

This piece could also represent Vexen as in several occasions such as his Absent Silhouette he is "surrounded" by six pointed snow flakes. Another piece though seemed to strongly resemble his shield- more specifically in its "IceBlade" form, though I also thought it looked like Demyx's sitar.

I'm kind of having trouble uploading the picture but as soon as I can i would

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

Even and Dilan were still recovering from being made whole again. Ienzo said so in KH3D. There is nothing that indicates they will return as villains. They will return as people who will help. Besides, through weakness of body and weakness of will, they were marked inadequate.

[Kingdomhe 1,362]

  On 7/31/2015 at 8:40 PM, KingdomHearts3 said:

Even and Dilan were still recovering from being made whole again. Ienzo said so in KH3D. There is nothing that indicates they will return as villains. They will return as people who will help. Besides, through weakness of body and weakness of will, they were marked inadequate.

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[Moni_22 335]

Many have pointed this out, however there's not enough evidence to say right now. However if Braig took Isa, and Even and Dilan are members of the New Org too, why weren't they taken? I don't think they are members, but who knows...

[Rinax 473]

In terms of non-story reasons, Vexen/Even's Japanese seiyuu had passed away, so I'm assuming they didn't want to get a new voice for him since he has a small role (and who could replace him?). And so (still assuming) they stuck Dilan with him to be unstable, just so it didn't seem weird that only one of them were still out.

[The Transcendent Key 12,109]

While your theory is a pretty excellent one, KingdomHearts3 has a point.  But I wonder why they would be considered inadequate, since the two of them were pretty important in the Original Organization!  This is very mysterious, indeed...

[Vexen 73]

  On 7/31/2015 at 8:27 PM, Goten124 said:

 Weirdly enough Dilan and Even remain asleep/unconscious with their faces covered though their bodies are stable. 

They are not unconcious. Listen to what Aeleus says around 0:15 in this cutscene.

 

 

"Dilan and Even are concious again, but still unstable." 

Edited August 2, 2015 by Vexen

[hatok 6,413]

everyone has said any points I'd bring up about this, but I'm curious why they specifically are unstable. It's an odd point to set up, and has to mean something

I'm just not sure what