The 13th Kenpachi 4,279 Posted July 24, 2015 No one really debates these things, Master Xehanort , Eraqus and Yen Sid are out of the question for obvious reasons. Leaving Sora, Riku, Aqua, Mickey, Kairi, Ventus. Terra. Ansem the Wise, Namine, Vanitas, Ansem SOD, Dolan and Gooby, Xion, Roxas, Xemnas and the other Organization members. Who is the most powerful then? I'd say either Riku, Roxas or Xemnas. 6 Riosephmido, nonicepifz72, nonicepifg79 and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted July 24, 2015 according to Nomura, Xemnas is the most powerful being in the KH universe Granted, that was before DDD, but it's still mostly up to date 1 The 13th Kenpachi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 13th Kenpachi 4,279 Posted July 24, 2015 according to Nomura, Xemnas is the most powerful being in the KH universe Granted, that was before DDD, but it's still mostly up to date Xemnas? He got defeated by Sora and Riku pretty easily, and how would that work? Xemnas is the most powerful being in the KH universe but he got defeated by two teenagers who hadn't even been trained properly. That would also make Sora and Riku the most powerful beings, since they beat the most powerful being. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 5,715 Posted July 24, 2015 The Genie. From this list, though, probably either Sora or Mickey. 5 AwesomeKHfan, The 13th Kenpachi, HeyMouseSayCheese and 2 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Javelin434 3,164 Posted July 24, 2015 I'd say Terra. Dem sculpted pecs + no shame wearing a man skirt = someone who's pretty damn sure they're the most powerful being in existence 3 FerroAxel7, HeyMouseSayCheese and Bewilde reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 13th Kenpachi 4,279 Posted July 24, 2015 The Genie. From this list, though, probably either Sora or Mickey. From what 3D has shown us, I think Riku has the edge and is surpassing Sora at the moment. I'd say Terra. Dem sculpted pecs + no shame wearing a man skirt = someone who's pretty damn sure they're the most powerful being in existence Someone has a crush. 1 Philip Ellwell reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted July 24, 2015 Xemnas? He got defeated by Sora and Riku pretty easily, and how would that work? Xemnas is the most powerful being in the KH universe but he got defeated by two teenagers who hadn't even been trained properly. That would also make Sora and Riku the most powerful beings, since they beat the most powerful being. well that's the key thing, isn't it? Sora AND Riku. Just one of them, and they wouldn't have won. the trainign was a complete formality. Sora had clothes that unleashed his true potential, and Riku has all his darkness stuff also it;s compelte fanfic to say they "easily" beat Xemnas The boss fight took a good hour, and during the final bit, Xemnas beats the stuffing out of Sora AND Riku. It's only at the last second that Sora is able to team up with a heavily injured Riku to deal the final blow. and just before that Xemnas used that super laser barrage that pushed Sora and Riku to their limits 1 The 13th Kenpachi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeyMouseSayCheese 1,133 Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) I'd say Terra. Dem sculpted pecs + no shame wearing a man skirt = someone who's pretty damn sure they're the most powerful being in existence Thinking you are isn't the same as actually being the strongest. He's definitely got the strongest fashion sense, though, Terra wears the most comfy looking pair of pants I've ever seen. I would think Aqua probably, right? She was already a murder machine in BBS and she's been tromping around the Realm of Darkness fighting giant monsters for most of the series, instead of getting brainwiped and becoming a scientist or sleeping for ten years straight like her lame friends. She's probably unstoppable by now. Edited July 24, 2015 by HeyMouseSayCheese 1 Javelin434 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 5,715 Posted July 24, 2015 From what 3D has shown us, I think Riku has the edge and is surpassing Sora at the moment. Someone has a crush. I would disagree. Sora getting suckered in by team Xehanort is played off as Riku being more resistant to Darkness, but that kind of ignores literally everything that's happened before, where Riku was only too happy to give in while Sora refused using only strength of will. Frankly, I think Sora's longevity with refusing to give in to temptation makes him much more strong than Riku. 2 HeyMouseSayCheese and hatok reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted July 24, 2015 Thinking you are isn't the same as actually being the strongest. He's definitely got the strongest fashion sense, though, Terra wears the most comfy looking pair of pants I've ever seen. I would think Aqua probably, right? She was already a murder machine in BBS and she's been tromping around the Realm of Darkness fighting giant monsters for most of the series, instead of getting brainwiped and becoming a scientist or sleeping for ten years straight like her lame friends. She's probably unstoppable by now. Aqua is probably so high level after grinding high level heartless for a decade 2 HeyMouseSayCheese and Sendou Aichi reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 13th Kenpachi 4,279 Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) well that's the key thing, isn't it? Sora AND Riku. Just one of them, and they wouldn't have won. the trainign was a complete formality. Sora had clothes that unleashed his true potential, and Riku has all his darkness stuff also it;s compelte fanfic to say they "easily" beat Xemnas The boss fight took a good hour, and during the final bit, Xemnas beats the stuffing out of Sora AND Riku. It's only at the last second that Sora is able to team up with a heavily injured Riku to deal the final blow. and just before that Xemnas used that super laser barrage that pushed Sora and Riku to their limits I like your response, :wink: . It's convincing enough. Xemnas can also remove peoples hearts too and it's speculated he gave the Organization their powers. Xemnas' power level probably reflects MX in his prime (20s-30s) That being said, Roxas is pretty strong too. Riku was lucky he had Ansem's powers else Roxas would have defeated him. Aqua is like level 9999 Edited July 24, 2015 by TheNinjasJoint Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted July 24, 2015 I like your response, :wink: . It's convincing enough. Xemnas can also remove peoples hearts too and it's speculated he gave the Organization their powers. Xemnas' power level probably reflects MX in his prime (20s-30s) basically the only thing that stops Xemnas from being a more powerful Xehanort is that he doesn't use a keyblade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trece the Xam ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) 3,859 Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) basically the only thing that stops Xemnas from being a more powerful Xehanort is that he doesn't use a keyblade. I've read somewhere (I think it was the Keyhole website) that Xemnas probably is able to use a keyblade, but he doesn't for some reason (maybe the lightsabers are stronger, or maybe he just wanted to keep it for his fight in KH3). Anyway, Nomura said that Xemnas is the strongest, I read it too some time ago, so that's it. No one really debates these things, Master Xehanort , Eraqus and Yen Sid are out of the question for obvious reasons. If you mean that they're obviously the strongest, you're wrong (if you mean with their age in BBS, I don't know how strong they used to be): Eraqus and MX were defeated by Terra, so that makes him at least as strong as them, so that would mean that Terra should be out too; I don't know about Yen Sid, he hasn't done any fighting (and he probably wont), so we should leave him at the same level as the other masters. However, I think that no mater what Nomura says, the strongest oponent we've seen is Venitas (Vanitas with Ven's face and with the final X-blade), who easily defeated Aqua and Mickey, but lost when Ven defeated Vanitas and Aqua used the power of her friends. Edited July 25, 2015 by Xamtehwt Trece 1 AlixtheMagi13 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Komali 594 Posted July 25, 2015 I don't think that Master Xehanort, Eraqus and Yen Sid are the strongest one. Terra defeated both Xehanort and Eraqus, mostly because they are old and not as strong as in younger days. I believe Riku, Roxas and Aqua are currently the strongest alongside Young Xehanort and Xemnas. Sora and Vanitas have definitely the potential to be one of the strongest. In my opinion: 1) Aqua 2) Young Xehanort 3) Riku 4) Xemnas 5) Roxas 6) Lingering Will 7) Mickey 8) Sora 9) Terra 10) Vanitas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hearts Creed 142 Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) in terms of the "good" guys (at this moment), I'd probably have to go with Riku. in terms of the "villains", I'd probably have to go with with one of the other Norts, Xemnas probably Edited July 25, 2015 by Hearts Creed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolf on the Run 391 Posted July 25, 2015 Just saying this cause i thought i heard this a while back but might be wrong but at the end of KH2 didn't Xemnas let Sora and Riku destroy him as part of Xehanorts plan and in DDD Xemnas once again let Sora beat him in the dream due to Xehanort's plan through this wouldn't it be safe to assume we've never seen Xemnas go all out if i remember right Xemnas can use a keyblade but chooses not to if this is correct if Xemnas went full out using Keyblade and all wouldn't we be seeing him fight at a level we've never seen before allot of this is me putting stuff i know and putting stuff i think i heard about together so if i'm wrong about bits and pieces don't butcher me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted July 25, 2015 Sora is the strongest by virtue of being the main character. He also has the My Friend Are My Power cheat code 3 lostmemory123, The 13th Kenpachi and HeyMouseSayCheese reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeyMouseSayCheese 1,133 Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) Sora is the strongest by virtue of being the main character. He also has the My Friend Are My Power cheat code Except he still lost to Xemnas in DDD despite going full on Friend Mode. Besides, why wouldn't those same rules apply to Riku, Terra, Aqua, Ventus or Roxas? They're all playable main characters and they fight for their friends too. Edited July 25, 2015 by HeyMouseSayCheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) Except he still lost to Xemnas in DDD despite going full on Friend Mode. Besides, why wouldn't those same rules apply to Riku, Terra, Aqua, Ventus or Roxas? They're all playable main characters and they fight for their friends too. He didn't loose to Xemnas, he lost to the darkness born of the painful memories of those connected to him, his own darkness. And they may be main characters of their own games, but Sora is the main character of the series as a whole, so he ranks higher, plus he has more connections than they do so that gives him more power. Edited July 25, 2015 by Isamu_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eternalsleep 175 Posted July 25, 2015 Based on pure power, from what we've seen so far anyway, terra should be the strongest. He's been properly trained by eraqus since he was a kid, his darkness amplifies his already huge sthength, and he's got keyblade transformations down perfect since he and the lingering will should have the same techniques. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Javelin434 3,164 Posted July 25, 2015 From what 3D has shown us, I think Riku has the edge and is surpassing Sora at the moment. Someone has a crush.I don't have a crush on Terra [trust me. You can ask the other members who I'm obsessed over ]What I can say is that man skirts = power 4 Riosephmido, janicepihf89, nonicepifg79 and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmegaForte 1,674 Posted July 25, 2015 Aqua. She defeated Terranort... You know Xehanort in a young body. Granted he wasn't used to the new body, I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ven983 490 Posted July 25, 2015 In pure brute strength it would be Terra no doubt. If you are looking at the overall package, I would say Aqua. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valhite 168 Posted July 25, 2015 Goofy is the storngest! I mean look at that Tornado power he had in KH 2! No keyblade wielders can do that!... I'm outta my mind Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The 13th Kenpachi 4,279 Posted July 25, 2015 Organization 13 members can be included too guys, show them some love :tongue: Marluxia was powerful Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
