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KH3D Dream Drop Distance HD shouldn't be a thing

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Be it PS3 or PS4, I'd still like to see a Dream Drop Distance HD. And whether it "should" or "should not" happen doesn't matter, what matters is whether they are going to do it or not, and it sounds like it's still up in the air, until they tell us more. I'm pretty certain that they'll do something with it, considering how Nomura acknowledges that he wants to do "something" with DDD. He even explained himself that it "wouldn't be natural" to not include DDD in some way. Whether it is a game remaster or cutscene collection (hopefully with better fight scenes), I'm pretty confident that something will be done. And really, there are a lot of fans who don't mind that KH3 was delayed for the sake of a 2.5, me included. Really, that would have been a huge gripe for me if they released KH3 early without doing a 2.5. I would feel the same way if the same happened with DDD and nothing is done with it, but I guess it wouldn't be as bad. Still, I'm among those who don't feel that bad about KH3 being delayed one more year or a few months if it means getting a complete story in HD. We've gone this long without a KH3, I think we'd be able to manage a bit longer.

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To me it doesn't matter if it delays KH3,KH3D HD is still worth making,its the only one I didn't play.We'll get KH3 eventually,we just need to be patient and its been so long since KH2 came out at this point I could wait an other ten years for KH3  :)

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By your logic we didn't need 2.5 either since the credits from 1.5 has hd stills of those games.

 

I have a feeling that if it where to be remade in HD, it would have to be on PS4 because then they can move touch screen functionality to the touch pad. Of course that raises the same problem with Utada that is preventing them from putting 1.5 and 2.5 on the system. They'll have to figure something out eventually.

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KH3D should've been the PS3 KH game tbh. But no point talking about should'ves I guess. A HD remake of it would be great, but there are way too many elements that need to be recreated because of the touchscreen features unlike BBS which was didn't have gimmicks.

 

The touchscreen stuff was too integrated into the game, so it would take a good amount of effort to recreate that. If only they could get some other smaller developer to remake it like Nintendo did with OOT3D and MM3D.

 

Sucks for people without a 3DS cause they are missing an excellent game.

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I agree with you, I have always said that a remake of DDD would be a waste of time. Besides, if they are going to do it, it would be this year, and they haven't announced anything so...

 

Most of the people who wants DDD HD are the people who haven't played it anyway, I see it unfair that we have to wait more for KH3 for them. I mean, it's not the same as with KH1 and the other games. They had worse graphics, they were old, and they were from past generations of consoles. So it was great seeing them new again, and Days and Coded even if they didn't get to be playable, at least we had the cutscenes. But DD D is only 3 years and it is in a console from the current generation, I don't see a point of releasing it in PS3, like you said they even have to change a lot of the game because it doesn't have two screens, they didn't have to do that for the others.

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KH3D is one of the most important games to the series just like BBS. it would be very boring to me just to watch cutscenes for 3 or 4 hours and not do anything. I really hope to see it on PS3 AND PS4.

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Yeah 2.5 really delayed KH3, that's why in a recent interview Nomura said that it was running right on track. Nomura also said that he feels bad that Dream Drop Distance is the only game that didn't get a Console port in some form, and since we did see some of the scenes in the 2.5 credits it's like a hint that they want to do it at least, they could outsource it so it wouldn't delay KH3, or who knows maybe he already had a team working on it in secret and they just haven't announced it yet, saving it for either TGS or maybe D23 to announce it.  I would like to see DDD on a console and I'm sure a lot of people would as well, we just probably won't get it this year.

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It's pretty clear at this point that they'll be making  an HD remake of Dream Drop Distance. They have given us many clear 'hints' that they'll be making it:

  • Special credits from 2.5
  • Kingdom Hearts 3 Teaser Trailer at E3 2014, the one at the end of the 2.5 trailer
  • The fact that Nomura himself stated that it wouldn't be normal if this game didn't get an HD remake.

The HD remakes were one of the best things that Square Enix made for the series, since now people don't need multiple gaming systems, only a PS3, 3DS and a PS4/Xbox One. Making an HD remake of Dream Drop Distance would make this scenario even better because people would only need a PS3 and a PS4, since an HD remake would most likely come out on the PS4. Making it on the WiiU alone would make matters worse, plus they don't like that console, and they're pretty much done with the PS3.

 

I have played DDD myself and I think it would be fair to make an HD remake of it on the PS4 for people who haven't played it.

 

By the way, everyone should remember that this is just ONE game, therefore it shouldn't take them as long to make this remake as 1.5 or 2.5, since they had two games and a movie each. All they would have to do is HD-ify it and change the gameplay around a bit, which would be their main focus in making this remake. Seriosly, it would take them a lot less time than 1.5 or 2.5.

 

Besides, these HD remakes were meant to be a build-up towards Kingdom Hearts 3 and build hype to it, to relive the past games and remember what this is all leading up to. Not having an HD remake of Dream Drop Distance, a game specifically leading up to Kingdom Hearts 3, would definitely be a weird decision. Plus, this could easily give Square Enix more of that $$$.

 

I have waited so long for Kingdom Hearts 3, some who waited longer than me (almost a decade). I can wait a little longer. For a long time, I thought KH3 was going to release in 2015, what an idiot I was, and from that, I learned that I have to be patient and that's what I'm doing. So, I can wait another year, or maybe less. It's possible that it just comes out with Kingdom Hearts 3 but we'll just have to wait and see.

 

I believe that this HD remake is a must. I'm sorry to disagree with you but I personally believe that this is the right thing to do. 

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I haven't played Dream Drop Distance yet because I don't have a 3DS, and I'm sure others haven't for this same reason; therefore, I support the idea of an HD remake. If there were 3DS emulators out there that actually worked, then it'd be a different story, but there aren't and I refuse to spend $215 on a device just for ONE game. The idea of Square Enix releasing a title containing solely cut-scenes of the game is also stupid, so go firetruck yourself if you're on that boat.

 

Literally don't care if KH3 gets delayed again for an HD remake of DDD. It probably won't happen anyway, so what are y'all even so upset about? As unreasonable as it may sound: if there is a remake, it'll probably be after the release of KH3.

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By your logic we didn't need 2.5 either since the credits from 1.5 has hd stills of those games.I have a feeling that if it where to be remade in HD, it would have to be on PS4 because then they can move touch screen functionality to the touch pad. Of course that raises the same problem with Utada that is preventing them from putting 1.5 and 2.5 on the system. They'll have to figure something out eventually.

The touch pad couldn't simulate most of the actions you perform on the 3DS. There's no visual feedback. The touch stuff will have to be reworked or removed

They might have more luck since they use the orchestral version of Simple and Clean rather than the official version

 

The touchscreen stuff was too integrated into the game, so it would take a good amount of effort to recreate that. 

No it isn't, and no it won't

They could easily outright remove the touch controls and little would be lost. But making a simple mini game, even from scracth, is hardly a time consuming thing. Most oft he mini games could literally be done with an analog stick anyways

 

I agree with you, I have always said that a remake of DDD would be a waste of time. Besides, if they are going to do it, it would be this year, and they haven't announced anything so...

 

Most of the people who wants DDD HD are the people who haven't played it anyway, I see it unfair that we have to wait more for KH3 for them. I mean, it's not the same as with KH1 and the other games. They had worse graphics, they were old, and they were from past generations of consoles. So it was great seeing them new again, and Days and Coded even if they didn't get to be playable, at least we had the cutscenes. But DD D is only 3 years and it is in a console from the current generation, I don't see a point of releasing it in PS3, like you said they even have to change a lot of the game because it doesn't have two screens, they didn't have to do that for the others.

It wouldn't be this year, considering they announced KH Unchained this year. Not that the year is even half done yet. But I'm sorry, there's way too much evidence to even suggest that it won't happen.

You don;t see the point of porting it? Let me spell it out

KH3 is coming to Sony and Microsoft. Not Nintendo. It's ridiculous on so many levels to expect people to own a Nintendo handheld in order to properly understand a PS4 game

The dual screen things were minor at best, little would need to be changed

 

It will happen atleast on psn. Why?

 

1. It was showing on 2.5

2. It is an important story for people that can't be missed

3. Julius screams to be on HD

PSN is less likely than a physical release, as Square is missing digital rights to some of the stuff they use in KH, namely Utada's songs

 

Finish KH3 first, then do your little DDD HD Remaster or whatever. That's a win-win scenario.

That's a really dumb solution. What's the point of porting a prequel AFTER the story was concluded in a major way? If they don't port it before KH3, there's no point in porting it at all. The purpose of the HD remasters in the first place was to make it easier for people to experience the whole story in one place in preparation for KH3

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The touch pad couldn't simulate most of the actions you perform on the 3DS. There's no visual feedback. The touch stuff will have to be reworked or removedThey might have more luck since they use the orchestral version of Simple and Clean rather than the official version

They could move the visual feedback to your television screen since that's what your focused on anyway and just use the touch pad for input. It might be difficult to use relaity shifts as a player but with practice we'll pick it up eventually.And they still use Sanctuary- After the battle for the end theme. Edited by Isamu_Kuno

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The touch pad couldn't simulate most of the actions you perform on the 3DS. There's no visual feedback. The touch stuff will have to be reworked or removed

They might have more luck since they use the orchestral version of Simple and Clean rather than the official version

 

No it isn't, and no it won't

They could easily outright remove the touch controls and little would be lost. But making a simple mini game, even from scracth, is hardly a time consuming thing. Most oft he mini games could literally be done with an analog stick anyways

 

It wouldn't be this year, considering they announced KH Unchained this year. Not that the year is even half done yet. But I'm sorry, there's way too much evidence to even suggest that it won't happen.

You don;t see the point of porting it? Let me spell it out

KH3 is coming to Sony and Microsoft. Not Nintendo. It's ridiculous on so many levels to expect people to own a Nintendo handheld in order to properly understand a PS4 game

The dual screen things were minor at best, little would need to be changed

 

PSN is less likely than a physical release, as Square is missing digital rights to some of the stuff they use in KH, namely Utada's songs

 

That's a really dumb solution. What's the point of porting a prequel AFTER the story was concluded in a major way? If they don't port it before KH3, there's no point in porting it at all. The purpose of the HD remasters in the first place was to make it easier for people to experience the whole story in one place in preparation for KH.

Okay. What's the point of making an HD remaster when he already stated KH3 is already in full effect. That makes no sense to remaster DDD at all. Your wasting time and effort to produce a games such as that Dream Eater petting game. It has been 10 years since KH2 was out. It's time to finish this series with a bang and end it. We don't really need any remasters. I hear tons of negative comments about 1.5 and 2.5 because of Re:Coded and Days. If you didn't get a chance to play DDD. Save your money or watch it on youtube. 

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They could move the visual feedback to your television screen since that's what your focused on anyway and just use the touch pad for input. It might be difficult to use relaity shifts as a player but with practice we'll pick it up eventually.And they still use Sanctuary- After the battle for the end theme.

Visual feedback separated from touch controls doesn't work. You can't have the precision needed

And doesn't that version not use Utada's lyrics?

 

Okay. What's the point of making an HD remaster when he already stated KH3 is already in full effect. That makes no sense to remaster DDD at all. Your wasting time and effort to produce a games such as that Dream Eater petting game. It has been 10 years since KH2 was out. It's time to finish this series with a bang and end it. We don't really need any remasters. I hear tons of negative comments about 1.5 and 2.5 because of Re:Coded and Days. If you didn't get a chance to play DDD. Save your money or watch it on youtube. 

The point, as I already said, is to ensure people are up to speed on KH before launching KH3

KH3 was in full development when KH2.5 came out. It REALLY

REALLY

REEEAALLLY doesn't take that much manpower to remaster a game. KH1.5 was made using two programmers

Just because you don't want something doesn't mena that it shouldn't be made available to the average consumer. Believe it or not, most people aren't down for watching five hours of cutscenes just to be prepared for an upcoming game

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Visual feedback separated from touch controls doesn't work. You can't have the precision neededAnd doesn't that version not use Utada's lyrics? The point, as I already said, is to ensure people are up to speed on KH before launching KH3KH3 was in full development when KH2.5 came out. It REALLYREALLYREEEAALLLY doesn't take that much manpower to remaster a game. KH1.5 was made using two programmersJust because you don't want something doesn't mena that it shouldn't be made available to the average consumer. Believe it or not, most people aren't down for watching five hours of cutscenes just to be prepared for an upcoming game

Like I said, we'd have to get used to it. Or we just use the touch pad to activate Reality Shift mode then use the left analog stick to excecute the moves.No, that version is fully vocalized.

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Visual feedback separated from touch controls doesn't work. You can't have the precision needed

And doesn't that version not use Utada's lyrics?

 

The point, as I already said, is to ensure people are up to speed on KH before launching KH3

KH3 was in full development when KH2.5 came out. It REALLY

REALLY

REEEAALLLY doesn't take that much manpower to remaster a game. KH1.5 was made using two programmers

Just because you don't want something doesn't mena that it shouldn't be made available to the average consumer. Believe it or not, most people aren't down for watching five hours of cutscenes just to be prepared for an upcoming game

The people who need to speed up on KH info can go straight to Youtube to find out everything there is about Kingdom Hearts Lore.  DDD has been out since 2012. If you are really desperate to play DDD. Save your money, buy a 3ds, and play DDD. Don't give me the excuse, how people say," There is no games on 3ds and I'm only buying one game for it." There are plenty of wonderful games for the 3ds. You're right. It doesnt take much to remaster a game, but you have to update all those little stupid mini-games and bosses that come with it. Finally, you really dont need watch 5 hours cutscenes to grasp a basic understanding of the plot of DDD. Like I stated in my previous post. You can go to youtube and find an easy 40-50 min video explaining the whole plot of KH. Personally, I feel this game shouldn't be remastered. You feel that it's possible to remake it. Drop it move on because my opinion is not changing on the matter and yours is not either.

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Believe it or not, Kingdom Hearts 3D was the very first Kingdom Hearts game I played. I watched my brother play number 1 and 2.

 

My suggestion, place Kingdom Hearts 3DHD as part of the Kingdom Hearts 3 Final Mix Collection and outsource the HD process. Problem sorted. My only real concern is the fact that Kingdom Hearts 3D was so touch screen orientated, how is that going to be incorporated for a home console remaster?

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I also agree that it shouldn't be remastered, atleast before KH3. It was and still is a great game, plus it's integral to the story but iunno about getting it remastered... I think at the very least if they want to honor it then maybe they could add cutscenes from it to KH3, or as Alpha Baymax said they could maybe remaster it for a KH3 Final Mix someday. 

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I seen lots of people asking Square Enix or expecting HD release of Dream Drop Distance. But it shouldn't happen. Let me explain: Nomura and the Kingdom Hearts development team are working hard on Kingdom Hearts 3. Making a HD version of DDD would simply waste their time. They have to recreate Flick Rush and Reality Shift. (Which would be difficult to recreate on PS3 or PS4.) Also, they have recreate the training minigame for Dream Eaters. Not to mention, Square Enix also wasted their time when making Kingdom Hearts 2.5 remix. Remember? (Most KH3 developers worked on 2.5 remix.) Wouldn't be easier to just make HD cutscenes of the game? I can see it possible since it has a ton of cutscenes. Or better yet not, since the special ending of 2.5 remix features HD pictures of DDD. So technically, we already have a HD remake of Dream Drop Distance. But of course, some people still think it's possible. But in reality, it's not.

Well it's possible to do on Wii U since that has two screens like the 3DS

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