SoraDaxjer28 263 Posted June 30, 2015 So, what I want to know is -- why is just about everyone saying "Frozen (2013)" has a definite appearance in "Kingdom Hearts 3"? Could someone PLEASE clarify this for me? I understand "Frozen (2013)" is a very popular movie, but... Now that a world based on "Tangled (2010)" has been announced, wouldn't "Frozen (2013)" be similar? What variety of worlds would we then get in "Kingdom Hearts 3"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JTD95 1,107 Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) Both worlds are very different in my opinion. They just have similar character designs and certain similar art design choices. Edited June 30, 2015 by JTD95 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) Well, there's two clear factors of Frozen's presence in Kingdom Hearts 3. 1) The fact that it is Walt Disney Animation Studios best financially performing film of all time. That alone makes it deserving to be in Kingdom Hearts 3. 2) Tetsuya Nomura and Tai Yasue (directors of the Kingdom Hearts series) have been hinting at Frozen by saying how much they love the movie and what they think of it. They've referred to Frozen too often for it to be a coincidence. And to clarify, Frozen is distinct enough from Tangled. Frozen is based in Scandinavian culture whilst Tangled is based in German culture. Their worlds are nothing alike! Edited June 30, 2015 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shana09 5,769 Posted June 30, 2015 I don't see how it would be similar to Tangled, if anything, similarity would make it even easier for them to include. Disney's animation has been similar in the past too with Snow White, Cinderella and the Sleeping Beauty. Plus Frozen looks incredibly different from Tangled. Frozen will be a little summer like in beginning and then turn to snow (unless they start with snow right away). Tangled is filled with summer like forests and such. Also Frozen's animation is a lot more fluid compared to Tangled since that animation evolved. Another reason they could add it is because they brought it up numerous times for some reason. Who knows what those mean though, but people guessed it might be them hinting to Frozen being included because Frozen is popular. IMO, Frozen would be perfect for KH. And the current engine would make that world insanely beautiful. 7 PillowHead, Power Jusho, Robbie the Wise and 4 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aqua7KH 5,395 Posted June 30, 2015 Well, there's two clear factors of Frozen's presence in Kingdom Hearts 3.1) The fact that it is Walt Disney Animation Studios best financially performing film of all time. That alone makes it deserving to be in Kingdom Hearts 3.2) Tetsuya Nomura and Tai Yasue (directors of the Kingdom Hearts series) have been hinting at Frozen by saying how much they love the movie and what they think of it. They've referred to Frozen too often for it to be a coincidence.And to clarify, Frozen is distinct enough from Tangled. Frozen is based in Scandinavian culture whilst Tangled is based in German culture. Their worlds are nothing alike!This. The only reason why it could be similar is just due to similar art design and the simple fact that it's made by the same people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philip Ellwell 5,487 Posted June 30, 2015 What'll happen will happen,. but as Frozen has been such a massive hit, and the mytho's would fit well with KH, you can pretty much bet it will be there in one form or another Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valhite 168 Posted June 30, 2015 Frozen can't be in kingdom hearts 3. I mean, every disney worlds had a villain which we must battle against them right? So who do you think would be the villain of frozen in kingdom hearts 3? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) I don't see how it would be similar to Tangled, if anything, similarity would make it even easier for them to include. Disney's animation has been similar in the past too with Snow White, Cinderella and the Sleeping Beauty. Plus Frozen looks incredibly different from Tangled. Frozen will be a little summer like in beginning and then turn to snow (unless they start with snow right away). Tangled is filled with summer like forests and such. Also Frozen's animation is a lot more fluid compared to Tangled since that animation evolved. Another reason they could add it is because they brought it up numerous times for some reason. Who knows what those mean though, but people guessed it might be them hinting to Frozen being included because Frozen is popular. IMO, Frozen would be perfect for KH. And the current engine would make that world insanely beautiful. Similarity is also the indicator to cancel out worlds. During the process of Kingdom Hearts, Jungle Book and Tarzan were debated as to which of the two should be in Kingdom Hearts. It was decided that Tarzan was featured at the time (that's worked in their favour as they no longer have the rights to Tarzan). Evidently, both those worlds are far too similar in environment and plot which is why similarity is the indicator to cancel out worlds. Frozen can't be in kingdom hearts 3. I mean, every disney worlds had a villain which we must battle against them right? So who do you think would be the villain of frozen in kingdom hearts 3? Bing Bong :sleep: This. The only reason why it could be similar is just due to similar art design and the simple fact that it's made by the same people. Walt Disney Animation studio has a staple character model design hence the similarity with all the Disney characters. Edited June 30, 2015 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlankShell 638 Posted June 30, 2015 Well, there's two clear factors of Frozen's presence in Kingdom Hearts 3. 1) The fact that it is Walt Disney Animation Studios best financially performing film of all time. That alone makes it deserving to be in Kingdom Hearts 3. 2) Tetsuya Nomura and Tai Yasue (directors of the Kingdom Hearts series) have been hinting at Frozen by saying how much they love the movie and what they think of it. They've referred to Frozen too often for it to be a coincidence. And to clarify, Frozen is distinct enough from Tangled. Frozen is based in Scandinavian culture whilst Tangled is based in German culture. Their worlds are nothing alike! I'd add to this that especially in Japan (not just worldwide) Frozen was a massive success; it accounted for nearly one fifth of the movie's entire revenue! So yeah, there's a lot of reasons to include it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie the Wise 5,050 Posted June 30, 2015 Frozen is the highest grossing Disney film of all time. Slap Elsa on the back of the game cover and it's going to sell copies. It's simple business. 2 Shana09 and PillowHead reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valhite 168 Posted June 30, 2015 So do you think we would have prince Hans as the boss? He barely do anything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) I'd add to this that especially in Japan (not just worldwide) Frozen was a massive success; it accounted for nearly one fifth of the movie's entire revenue! So yeah, there's a lot of reasons to include it. Of course, there's that fact too. Frozen's been heavily integrated into mainstream Japanese culture. Frozen is the highest grossing Disney film of all time. Slap Elsa on the back of the game cover and it's going to sell copies. It's simple business. Elsa's going to be promoted in as many official Kingdom Hearts 3 trailers as possible. With the amount of investment they're putting into the game and the changes in the gaming market since Kingdom Hearts 2, they need to appeal this game to the mainstream market! So do you think we would have prince Hans as the boss? He barely do anything He's a skilled swordsman. He chopped off Marshmarllow's leg and nearly sliced Elsa in half. A final boss fight with him is guaranteed. :sleep: Edited June 30, 2015 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Power Jusho 1,783 Posted June 30, 2015 Frozen can't be in kingdom hearts 3. I mean, every disney worlds had a villain which we must battle against them right? So who do you think would be the villain of frozen in kingdom hearts 3? Hans, Marshmallow, and Elsa(up to a point) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shana09 5,769 Posted June 30, 2015 Similarity is also the indicator to cancel out worlds. During the process of Kingdom Hearts, Jungle Book and Tarzan were debated as to which of the two should be in Kingdom Hearts. It was decided that Tarzan was featured at the time (that's worked in their favour as they no longer have the rights to Tarzan). Evidently, both those worlds are far too similar in environment and plot which is why similarity is the indicator to cancel out worlds. That situation doesn't prove anything in the whole Tangled v. Frozen similarities. One is summer, and the other is winter. Jungle Book/Tarzan are both jungles. It is completely different. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) That situation doesn't prove anything in the whole Tangled v. Frozen similarities. One is summer, and the other is winter. Jungle Book/Tarzan are both jungles. It is completely different. You misinterpreted what I stated. I was just clarifying as to why the "similar worlds" process is used to cancel out worlds. I stated that Frozen and Tangled's worlds are not similar at all (completely different). Edited June 30, 2015 by Guest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valhite 168 Posted June 30, 2015 He's a skilled swordsman. He chopped off Marshmarllow's leg and nearly sliced Elsa in half. A final boss fight with him is guaranteed. :sleep:Well you are right about that oneHans, Marshmallow, and Elsa(up to a point)Yes if the enemy will be Elsa it would be great. First playthrough of the world is Elsa with marshmallow and 2nd playthrough is Hans Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shana09 5,769 Posted June 30, 2015 You misinterpreted what I stated. I was just clarifying as to why the "similar worlds" process is used to cancel out worlds. I stated that Frozen and Tangled's worlds are not similar at all (completely different). Oh then my bad, the way you said it felt like you were trying to argue against that point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hearts Creed 142 Posted June 30, 2015 Not to mention that Frozen fits in really well thematically with Kingdom Hearts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Komali 594 Posted June 30, 2015 Frozen can't be in kingdom hearts 3. I mean, every disney worlds had a villain which we must battle against them right? So who do you think would be the villain of frozen in kingdom hearts 3?Pete and a random Heartless will solve this problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaweebo 3,617 Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caLEKBaNen4 I am so sick of this discussion. It's more annoying to me that people keep asking and complaining about it than anything else. Just give it a break already. Edited June 30, 2015 by Kaweebo 1 Oli reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted June 30, 2015 Well, seeing as how Frozen is insanely popular, I wouldn't find it at all surprising if the film ended up as a world in Kingdom Hearts III. It's pretty much inevitable to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gingienator 278 Posted June 30, 2015 It's really popular both in and outside Japan Plus the themes of "beware the frozen heart" fits in with the theme of KH. It's no surprise if it'll end up in Kingdom Hearts III. 1 twilight_roxas reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twilight_roxas 326 Posted June 30, 2015 Well, there's two clear factors of Frozen's presence in Kingdom Hearts 3. 1) The fact that it is Walt Disney Animation Studios best financially performing film of all time. That alone makes it deserving to be in Kingdom Hearts 3. 2) Tetsuya Nomura and Tai Yasue (directors of the Kingdom Hearts series) have been hinting at Frozen by saying how much they love the movie and what they think of it. They've referred to Frozen too often for it to be a coincidence. And to clarify, Frozen is distinct enough from Tangled. Frozen is based in Scandinavian culture whilst Tangled is based in German culture. Their worlds are nothing alike! Frozen is based in Norwegian. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twilight_roxas 326 Posted June 30, 2015 If Elsa becomes a boss I think it would be because she wants to see how Sora protects the ones he care like she got Marshmallow to take Anna, Kristoff, Olaf, Donald, and Goofy out of the Ice Palace while letting Sora stay just to test him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aqua7KH 5,395 Posted June 30, 2015 Well, I'm just gonna say this; I love Frozen and I would love to experience a Frozen world, but I don't want Nomura to put Frozen in KH just because of the fact that 95% of people hates Frozen now and would hate for it to be in KH. 1 Oli reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites