True Organisation XIII Theory.

[Marc10123 2]

Ok everyone. I have a new theory of two potential members of the 13 seekers of darkness (or True Organisation XIII).After replaying kh2 final mix, I read through the secret ansem reports. Number 10 may have given a big clue when discussing Namine and the part in question reads thus:"Namine emerged as Kairi's nobody...but the body and soul necessary to exist as a nobody belong to Sora. When a person's heart I stolen, a heartless is born with no sense of self, and the body and soul left behind give rise to a nobody. But what if one willingly releases one's heart from one's body? Sora and Xehanort retained their selfhood even after becoming heartless."Now, as we learn in BBS secret ending, Terranort had three hearts residing inside the body: Terra, Master Xehanort, and Eraqus. In DDD, we learn that Terranort willingly stabbed himself with his keyblade which produced the Ansem SoD and Xemnas forms, but what of MX and Eraqus' hearts? They too would fulfil the special requirement noted in Secret Ansem Report 10.So with that logic, we have this line up of the 13 Seekers of Darknesses:1. Master Xehanort2. Xemnas (terra nobody)3. Ansem SoD4. Young Xehanort5. Xigbar6. Saix7. Eraqus special nobody8. Master Xehanort special nobody9. Vanitas (personal opinion)10. Terranort (personal opinion)11. Luxord (personal opinion)12. Xaldin (personal opinion)13. Meant to have been Sora but now "unknown"What do you guys think?

Edited June 13, 2015 by Marc10123

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

Those are two completely different scenarios though. Kairi as a Princess of Heart has a heart of pure light and did produce a Heartless as an ordinary person would have. Her heart hence sought refuge in Sora while her body remained an empty husk. The only reason Namine existed was because Sora's own darkness acted as the catalyst to start the process that Kairi could not forgo naturally. Terranort is different because the hearts were in the process of fusing making the resulting Nobody and Heartless shared.

[Marc10123 2]

That is a fair point, granted, however as Kairi's heart was pure light you could say that Master Xehanort has a heart of pure darkness. although they are polar opposites, wouldn't the result be the same?

[Forever 3,550]

Most of them sound pretty plausible, but Luxord? Hmm....seems a bit out of place. Eraqus?  Possible. Vanitas? DEFINITELY possible. Xaldin/ Dilan? Weeeeell, his face nor Vexen's/ Even's were shown during Dream Drop Distance....Could just be for the sake of story, or it could actually mean something. Poor Vesen, though....he's already batshit insane, being Norted is the LAST thing he needs.

[Robbie the Wise 5,050]

That is a fair point, granted, however as Kairi's heart was pure light you could say that Master Xehanort has a heart of pure darkness. although they are polar opposites, wouldn't the result be the same?

He doesn't have a heart of pure darkness though which was why needed his vessels to commit to darkness and allow him control. Even if he did it would still different because of darkness still acting as the catalyst for Heartless production. Edited June 13, 2015 by Chucky the Wise

[Charles Matthews 24]

Or maybe hold off on the info until they have something substantial?Or maybe have just waited until this year or next to announce KH3?Or maybe we could all just shut up and leave them to it.

I never knew why Vexen or Xaldin were put on some people's list when we clearly saw them in DDD back as human with the other apprentices. The "unstable" thing could just be them regaining their memories as they're conscious according to Aelsus.And the Eraqus/MX thing well they were part of Terranort merged heart vs Sora/Kairi/Ventus separate heart so situation is definitely different Edited June 13, 2015 by Charles Matthews

[Marc10123 2]

Most of them sound pretty plausible, but Luxord? Hmm....seems a bit out of place. Eraqus?  Possible. Vanitas? DEFINITELY possible. Xaldin/ Dilan? Weeeeell, his face nor Vexen's/ Even's were shown during Dream Drop Distance....Could just be for the sake of story, or it could actually mean something. Poor Vesen, though....he's already batshit insane, being Norted is the LAST thing he needs.

I thought of Luxord as he was pretty loyal to the cause, although he was defeated at the Castle that Never Was. All it needed was for YX to bring him to the future and then get nort-ified. The same I thought for Xaldin (loyal to the cause) and he was ranked 3rd in the original organisation. On my theory about MX and Eraqus' special nobodies, I'd be pretty surprised if it came true as most of my theories on KH has turned out poor lol.

[Marc10123 2]

Ok, looking at the chess game that YX and Eraqus are playing, and reading in depth what others have analysed, my theory of MX and Eraqus having special nobodies has now been debunked (as i said it probably would lol).

 

However, re-evaluating my 13 SOD list, i am changing it to the following:

 

1. Master Xehanort
2. Xemnas
3. Ansem SoD
4. Young Xehanort
5. Xigbar
6. Saix
7. Terranort
8. Vanitas (his symbol is one of the gold chess pieces)
9. Luxord (dice symbol is one of the gold pieces)
10. Marluxia (flower symbol is one of the gold pieces)
11. Larxene (one of the gold pieces look like lightning)
12. Riku Replica (one of the gold pieces has a single pointy feather, similar to the feather on Riku's Way to the Dawn)
13. unknown

[Jermaine 79]

Ok, looking at the chess game that YX and Eraqus are playing, and reading in depth what others have analysed, my theory of MX and Eraqus having special nobodies has now been debunked (as i said it probably would lol).

 

However, re-evaluating my 13 SOD list, i am changing it to the following:

 

1. Master Xehanort

2. Xemnas

3. Ansem SoD

4. Young Xehanort

5. Xigbar

6. Saix

7. Terranort

8. Vanitas (his symbol is one of the gold chess pieces)

9. Luxord (dice symbol is one of the gold pieces)

10. Marluxia (flower symbol is one of the gold pieces)

11. Larxene (one of the gold pieces look like lightning)

12. Riku Replica (one of the gold pieces has a single pointy feather, similar to the feather on Riku's Way to the Dawn)

13. unknown

I agree with your list, except I think Riku replica is more likely Riku-Ansem

[Marc10123 2]

Could possibly be possessed Riku. Now I know that my other theory on Marluxia can now possible if it turns out he is one of the 13 SoDs. Basically, the whole situation at CO, was arranged between Xemnas and Marluxia to make it look like the latter was plotting to take over the organisation so that they can work out who was loyal to Xemnas or not.

[Guest]

Could possibly be possessed Riku. Now I know that my other theory on Marluxia can now possible if it turns out he is one of the 13 SoDs. Basically, the whole situation at CO, was arranged between Xemnas and Marluxia to make it look like the latter was plotting to take over the organisation so that they can work out who was loyal to Xemnas or not.

 

That could be plausable. Marluxia was really dramatised as a powerful antagonist, it would add development if it was discovered that he was working for Xehanort this whole time. 

Edited June 20, 2015 by Guest

[Marc10123 2]

I can imagine it now. Lea, Riku and Micky take on a hooded seeker of darkness, which is then revealed to be Marluxia. Lea goes bananas and says "you were trying to take control of the organization" (or something along those lines) and Marluxia reveals he was working with Xemnas the whole time. Cue battle music.