KHBbS Terra is wonderful don't you diss him capisce?

[7 and 13 Ingredients 27]

Even if you provide a detailed and smart analysis of why Terra sucks, you're still wrong. Because... He's got abs.

 

#rekt

[hatok 6,413]

Even if you provide a detailed and smart analysis of why Terra sucks, you're still wrong. Because... He's got abs.#rekt

there's no actual proof of that

he could be stuffing his shirt

[outbackjim21 83]

Terra is one of the worst KH charactersfollowed closely by Aqua

well, lets be fair here, both of those characters were written to fail through naive actions, and we only had one game with them,... A game where we were supposed to see how they fall, we dont get a redemption story like we do with riku or axel, who recieved one within the same game they are presented. Honestly though, terra and aqua are like man/woman children, most likely never left LoD until the events of BBS until they were in their 20's and they still try to listen to what daddy says without thinking for themselves...this is why every japanese video game protagonist needs to follow the golden rule when it comes to adventuring, leave home before the age of 17, you leave after, you're fodder. Ven got the better end of the deal, he pretty much just got to sleep for ten years.

[hatok 6,413]

well, lets be fair here, both of those characters were written to fail through naive actions, and we only had one game with them,... A game where we were supposed to see how they fall, we dont get a redemption story like we do with riku or axel, who recieved one within the same game they are presented.Honestly though, terra and aqua are like man/woman children, most likely never left LoD until the events of BBS until they were in their 20's and they still try to listen to what daddy says without thinking for themselves...this is why every japanese video game protagonist needs to follow the golden rule when it comes to adventuring, leave home before the age of 17, you leave after, you're fodder. Ven got the better end of the deal, he pretty much just got to sleep for ten years.

Riku and Axel are awful too

Terra has his butchered 'darkness' arc where he become sbetter and better at dealing with darkness but then gets angry one time and gets completely consumed by darkness

Aqua is pretty much Hitler, ready and willing to emotionless enact genocide on anybody who doesn't fit in her world view (she was literally going to go and kill Cinderella's Stepmother and Stepsisters) She's also just kinda an awful friend who lies about them then gets upset that they get mad at her

Riku has been going through his "redemption" for FIVE games now

Axel/Lea has steadily declined, going from an interesting flawed character into a bland friendship loving guy with a keyblade. You know, even though he murdered a bunch of people before

[outbackjim21 83]

Riku and Axel are awful tooTerra has his butchered 'darkness' arc where he become sbetter and better at dealing with darkness but then gets angry one time and gets completely consumed by darknessAqua is pretty much Hitler, ready and willing to emotionless enact genocide on anybody who doesn't fit in her world view (she was literally going to go and kill Cinderella's Stepmother and Stepsisters) She's also just kinda an awful friend who lies about them then gets upset that they get mad at herRiku has been going through his "redemption" for FIVE games nowAxel/Lea has steadily declined, going from an interesting flawed character into a bland friendship loving guy with a keyblade. You know, even though he murdered a bunch of people before

that's a pretty strong accusation stating that aqua's hitler, you're failing to see why the entire BBS trio are flawed, they had a crappy mentor/ a manipulative one, if you were taught to think one way since the beginning of your life you would find it hard to think another way, just look at children who are raised by racist, it's going to be hard to deprogram them NOT to think that way. That's just another way we can draw parallels from TVA and SKR, TVA had answers about stuff planted in them, while SKR was free to discover their own answers to the world around them, and we can see which philosophy of learning yields better results. And Terra did witness a man that he trusted pretty much say "I used you, killed your father, and now I'm going to kill your friends" how would he not get angry from that, before it was just fending off the darkness in his heart that was his problem, but these events actually fed that darkness and turned it to pure rage.And yes, Riku has been going through his redemption for five games now, it's called regret, you don't just forget and forgive past mistakes, that crap becomes your baggage, he would be an even worst character if he did just sweep it under the rug, besides it did have a nice payoff in 3D, now he can just focus on doing the right thing in KH3 without anymore baggage keeping him down.How has axel declined to a bland friendship guy, he has received character development throughout the series, he started off, Atleast in 2, as a guy who would stoop to doing evil things for the sake of his friends, but now he is doing the same thing, except he is reaching out to others for help in helping him save his friends, he is still the same person he has always been, he is just more open about what he wants and isn't a "ends justify the means" guy anymore. Though I will agree about the keyblade bit.

[hatok 6,413]

that's a pretty strong accusation stating that aqua's hitler, you're failing to see why the entire BBS trio are flawed, they had a crappy mentor/ a manipulative one, if you were taught to think one way since the beginning of your life you would find it hard to think another way, just look at children who are raised by racist, it's going to be hard to deprogram them NOT to think that way. That's just another way we can draw parallels from TVA and SKR, TVA had answers about stuff planted in them, while SKR was free to discover their own answers to the world around them, and we can see which philosophy of learning yields better results. And Terra did witness a man that he trusted pretty much say "I used you, killed your father, and now I'm going to kill your friends" how would he not get angry from that, before it was just fending off the darkness in his heart that was his problem, but these events actually fed that darkness and turned it to pure rage.And yes, Riku has been going through his redemption for five games now, it's called regret, you don't just forget and forgive past mistakes, that crap becomes your baggage, he would be an even worst character if he did just sweep it under the rug, besides it did have a nice payoff in 3D, now he can just focus on doing the right thing in KH3 without anymore baggage keeping him down.How has axel declined to a bland friendship guy, he has received character development throughout the series, he started off, Atleast in 2, as a guy who would stoop to doing evil things for the sake of his friends, but now he is doing the same thing, except he is reaching out to others for help in helping him save his friends, he is still the same person he has always been, he is just more open about what he wants and isn't a "ends justify the means" guy anymore. Though I will agree about the keyblade bit.

Aqua is completely blaze about about killing non-lights. That's pretty Hitler to me

And sure, you can make up all the excuses for why KH characters are secretly good, but that's all fan theory, the actual games have completely botched it and they're what we're talking about. You can say "this is how it basically was" but if it's not shown in the games, that's not really ground to stand on. Sure, Terra did experience the things you said, but his reaction is segmented into one part of hammy sadness, one part shifting the blame, then bam, angry time absolute corruption by darkness

Riku having regrets? okay fine. Riku having regrets and talking about overcoming the darkness and not being worthy in EVERY game? Kinda ridiculous, and not terribly interesting.

Axel less "developed" and more "Oh shit this guys' popular let's keep resurrecting him and eveyr time we do let's drain more of his personality away even though the first time we met him he didn't have a heart and was supposed to be emotionless"

It's definitely not "development, because Axel's personality in Days doesn't match KH2 or CoM at all, it's more in line with DDD, which is even furtehr removed. Then LEa is basically a separate characters in BBS who just happens to use Axel's catch phrase.

oh and also he cna use a keyblade because why not

[outbackjim21 83]

Aqua is completely blaze about about killing non-lights. That's pretty Hitler to meAnd sure, you can make up all the excuses for why KH characters are secretly good, but that's all fan theory, the actual games have completely botched it and they're what we're talking about. You can say "this is how it basically was" but if it's not shown in the games, that's not really ground to stand on. Sure, Terra did experience the things you said, but his reaction is segmented into one part of hammy sadness, one part shifting the blame, then bam, angry time absolute corruption by darknessRiku having regrets? okay fine. Riku having regrets and talking about overcoming the darkness and not being worthy in EVERY game? Kinda ridiculous, and not terribly interesting.Axel less "developed" and more "Oh shit this guys' popular let's keep resurrecting him and eveyr time we do let's drain more of his personality away even though the first time we met him he didn't have a heart and was supposed to be emotionless"It's definitely not "development, because Axel's personality in Days doesn't match KH2 or CoM at all, it's more in line with DDD, which is even furtehr removed. Then LEa is basically a separate characters in BBS who just happens to use Axel's catch phrase.oh and also he cna use a keyblade because why not

It's not even about fan theory, it's called critical thinking skills. Aqua literally refers to darkness as nothing but hatred and rage, Terra is afraid of the darkness because of that philosophy, now who has been training these guys for atleast 4 years? Eraqus sees darkness as nothing but pure evil as he has explicitly stated, so it's safe to say that eraqus implanted these notions of darkness=evil in Terra and Aqua atleast, but better yet, let's look at another explicit explanation of darkness which was seen in a game prior to BBS conception, KH2 where all three keyblade wielders sora,Riku, and Mickey give their insight into darkness, they aren't afraid of the darkness itself and that it has its place in the world, it's just that people who use it for the wrong purposes should be dealt with. That's two different ideas in regards to darkness expliclty spoken in game. What's the main difference between these two groups, one was able to discover answers for themselves and the other had preconceived notions that blinded them from other possibilities. And you're asking for explict yet you're saying that Aqua was going to kill cinderella's step family because she felt darkness and brandished her keyblade? You don't know what she would have done, you can say that she was planning on killing them, but based on your logic she has to either be shown in the act of doing so or explicitly state that she will in order for it to count., besides if she can be convinced not to with words from a stranger, then she can't be too strict on the idea.Also, name a human who has never rationilzed their failures by placing blame on something or someone else, Terra's reactions were pretty close to the real deal, sadness over loss, rationalizing his failure, then getting angry at the person he believes is at fault. Heck, I can name 5 reactions like that that has happened in the past yearIt's a difference of opinion on Riku, I personally enjoyed him overcoming his past mistakes, and especially loved his flourish into becoming a true champion of the light from the darkness in 3D, probably the one redeeming aspect of 3D's story.You're argueing that Axel's personality doesn't match up between games, but let's look at it this way, in CoM, couldn't trust anybody, and had some dark agenda, in KH2, Couldn't trust anybody, had a dark agenda, in days, he had friends that he wanted to be with. Did you want him to be a cynical as swipe like he was to sora in CoM and KH2 while talking to Roxas, that wouldn't be very friendly in my opinion.

[Wolfsbane706 15]

Aqua is actually my personal favorite of the three, but I do enjoy Terra's power.

[VexenReplica 154]

 

Reason above as to why I like Terra

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

there's no actual proof of that

he could be stuffing his shirt

Ummm...

I know right? Hmph. I've always loved him. To me, his story was the most interesting. Followed by Aqua.

 

Disregard the haters, Terra ROCKS!

 

 

No wonder Xehanort wanted his body.

 

As for play style, I usually go for mage-types but for KH I prefer speed types so Ven is my favorite, Terra is too slow and I hardly use magic in KH.

Personality wise, again, Ven. Aqua never even tried to hear Terra's side of the story, Terra never let Aqua or Ven know what was going on with him and whenever Ven tried to mediate they both treated him like some dumb kid who didn't know his ass from his elbow.

Edited April 28, 2015 by Isamu_Kuno

[Forever 3,550]

Ummm...

No wonder Xehanort wanted his body.

 

As for play style, I usually go for mage-types but for KH I prefer speed types so Ven is my favorite, Terra is too slow and I hardly use magic in KH.

Personality wise, again, Ven. Aqua never even tried to hear Terra's side of the story, Terra never let Aqua or Ven know what was going on with him and whenever Ven tried to mediate they both treated him like some dumb kid who didn't know his ass from his elbow.

 

1,Looks

2. Speed

3. Brains

 

Hmm.....WELP! One out of three, ain't bad.

[hatok 6,413]

Ummm...

That's Xehanort's body, not Terra's. Even if it was, that's ten years after he lost it, Xehanort could have been working out. Beyond THAT, Ansem's body was created artificially, so it could look however he wants

[Wolfsbane706 15]

That's Xehanort's body, not Terra's. Even if it was, that's ten years after he lost it, Xehanort could have been working out. Beyond THAT, Ansem's body was created artificially, so it could look however he wants

Xehanort's human form Heartless was born of an immensely strong will.  There's really no argument for why it wouldn't take the form of the person that produced it.  And actually, that technically is Terra's body.  If you'll recall, Master Xehanort discarded his old body so he could implant his heart into Terra's younger, firmer body.  As well, to pull off the stuff he does in game and cutscenes, Terra would pretty much have to be stacked.  There's no argument that could explain him doing that and not being physically fit.  Even magical augmentation is out, because if that were a possibility, why didn't Master Xehanort do it himself?  After all, a master magician should be able to pull that kind of thing, right?

[hatok 6,413]

Xehanort's human form Heartless was born of an immensely strong will.  There's really no argument for why it wouldn't take the form of the person that produced it.  And actually, that technically is Terra's body.  If you'll recall, Master Xehanort discarded his old body so he could implant his heart into Terra's younger, firmer body.  As well, to pull off the stuff he does in game and cutscenes, Terra would pretty much have to be stacked.  There's no argument that could explain him doing that and not being physically fit.  Even magical augmentation is out, because if that were a possibility, why didn't Master Xehanort do it himself?  After all, a master magician should be able to pull that kind of thing, right?

Xehanort just happens to look a lot like Terra. But if you look at his younger designs in BBS and DDD you can pretty clearly see that Ansem is based off Xehanort, while Xemnas is based off Terra

[Wolfsbane706 15]

Xehanort just happens to look a lot like Terra. But if you look at his younger designs in BBS and DDD you can pretty clearly see that Ansem is based off Xehanort, while Xemnas is based off Terra

Which, in turn, makes sense.  His Heartless would take a form closer to that of his younger self because that's what the heart remembers.  The Nobody is just what's left over after the Heartless is made, so of course it would look like Terra.

[hatok 6,413]

Which, in turn, makes sense.  His Heartless would take a form closer to that of his younger self because that's what the heart remembers.  The Nobody is just what's left over after the Heartless is made, so of course it would look like Terra.

...yes