The furture of Nobodies and Heartless.

[Fates Chance XIII 307]

Has anyone given any though to nobodies existing in the future will be like? I mean, as long as there are heartless stealing hearts, there will always be nobodies, lesser and humanoid, being formed. I wonder if there are any out there in the KH world that the organization never found, or perhaps being made later in the series. I wonder if we will ever hear about them again. Especially about the lesser nobodies like dusks and the like. They were led by the organization, now what will they do? I mean, were they all destroyed at the end of KH2? I doubt it. And really, after our heroes find out that defeating someones nobody and a heartless can restore them, I would have thought Sora would have jumped and been like, we have to go and defeat all those lesser nobodies then so that their somebodies will be restored! I wonder if the nobodies will ever appear again at all in the series...

 

As for the heartless, I wonder if they are gonna touch on how the Keyblade wielders fight is an eternal one against the heartless. How Sora, and Riku and Kairi now I guess can never really go home because they are now the protectors of many worlds against the heartless. I think it would make for an awesome cut scene, telling sora that his goal since he first set out in kh1 can never be fully realized. He may find his friends, but he can never really go home and stay there. Itll be interesting to see what they do in kh3 and beyond on these points for sure.

 

What do you all think?

[Sorarocks93 678]

I think the gang can stay at Destiny Islands. They didn't really want this in the first place unlike Terra Ven and Aqua did. They wanted to be Keyblade Masters. Yet they still lived in their home. The gang will probably be called to face someone powerful when the time comes.

 

The Heartless and the Nobodies will always be there, but if there is no one to cause havok they won't be in large numbers.

For example, Xehanort's Heartless was using the Heartless and was causing havok in KH1. After that the Heartless numbers fell down quite alot. However it did rise up again when Org. XIII was messing stuff up.

[Isamu Kuno 2,512]

It's always been the duty of Keyblade wielders to protect the Realm of Light from the forces of Darkness, even back when Xehanort and Eraqus where apprentices. Sure the Heartless weren't around then, but there where always dark forces of some sort threatening the peace. 

And just because the threat is constant, doesn't mean they have to abandon their homeworld, Especially with so many wielders wondering around. We already have Sora, Riku, Kairi, Mickey, and Lea. After KH3 we'll probably have Aqua and Ven, possibly Terra and Roxas too. Maybe even Xion and Namine if they come back, they both have the potential after all, both being born from wielders. Even though they don't have Keyblades of their own yet they could still get them.

 

That's 7-11 wielders, 3 of whom are Masters, to split the work.

[HeyMouseSayCheese 1,133]

I'm really worried Nobodies just won't return in KH3; they haven't been real enemies in earnest since KH2 (technically 358/2 also, but they were mostly optional and nowhere near as fun to fight). Plus Yen Sid said something about them being just empty vessels and returning to nothingness and only Org. XIII made them dangerous. Now that there's not really any super Nobodies commanding them, I could easily see Nomura and the team just writing them off, which would be a shame because I love them so.

 

And as for the Heartless, I'm pretty sure that once Sora & Co. stop as the evil dicks from doing all the evil dickish things they like to do, the Heartless will just be confined to the Realm of Darkness again like how it was in BBS times. I'd be willing to bet that KH3 is going to end very sappy where every character gets a happy ending, and that would probably mean no dark monsters skulking around in the Realm of Light.

[hatok 6,413]

I'm really worried Nobodies just won't return in KH3; they haven't been real enemies in earnest since KH2 (technically 358/2 also, but they were mostly optional and nowhere near as fun to fight). Plus Yen Sid said something about them being just empty vessels and returning to nothingness and only Org. XIII made them dangerous. Now that there's not really any super Nobodies commanding them, I could easily see Nomura and the team just writing them off, which would be a shame because I love them so.

 

And as for the Heartless, I'm pretty sure that once Sora & Co. stop as the evil dicks from doing all the evil dickish things they like to do, the Heartless will just be confined to the Realm of Darkness again like how it was in BBS times. I'd be willing to bet that KH3 is going to end very sappy where every character gets a happy ending, and that would probably mean no dark monsters skulking around in the Realm of Light.

here's the thing, there's no REASON to write them off, Xemnas is still around, he should be able to control Nobodies

Though honestly a lot of people are predicting that every enemy will return, and I think that's a likely scenario. Give Ansem Heartless, Xemnas Nobodies, Vanitas Unversed, and stay the firetruck away from Dream Eaters because firetruck Dream Eaters

[HeyMouseSayCheese 1,133]

here's the thing, there's no REASON to write them off, Xemnas is still around, he should be able to control Nobodies

Though honestly a lot of people are predicting that every enemy will return, and I think that's a likely scenario. Give Ansem Heartless, Xemnas Nobodies, Vanitas Unversed, and stay the firetruck away from Dream Eaters because firetruck Dream Eaters

 

Since when does Nomura ever need a REASON for anything? (Remember the time he spontaneously brought all the dead main villains from KH2 back to life?)

 

Also, is Xemnas really still around? If he and Ansem SoD combine to make Xehanort again, doesn't Xemnas kind of not exist anymore? He was in DDD, but wasn't that just because of time travel and sleeping and bullshit like that? Or can time travel work when you're not sleeping? Or can anyone control the Nobodies so long as they're powerful enough?

 

Plus, I think it's pretty wishful thinking to expect every enemy type. Heartless are a given, but there's nothing to indicate Nobodies so far, Dream Eaters do in fact suck balls, and the Unversed are all just existing Heartless with a different chassis. It's another one of those things people want because KH3 is gunna be da best game evuuuh but that doesn't remotely mean it's gonna actually happen.

[hatok 6,413]

Since when does Nomura ever need a REASON for anything? (Remember the time he spontaneously brought all the dead main villains from KH2 back to life?)

 

Also, is Xemnas really still around? If he and Ansem SoD combine to make Xehanort again, doesn't Xemnas kind of not exist anymore? He was in DDD, but wasn't that just because of time travel and sleeping and bullshit like that? Or can time travel work when you're not sleeping? Or can anyone control the Nobodies so long as they're powerful enough?

 

Plus, I think it's pretty wishful thinking to expect every enemy type. Heartless are a given, but there's nothing to indicate Nobodies so far, Dream Eaters do in fact suck balls, and the Unversed are all just existing Heartless with a different chassis. It's another one of those things people want because KH3 is gunna be da best game evuuuh but that doesn't remotely mean it's gonna actually happen.

Nomura always gives a REASON why things happen

if anything he gives too much of a reason. There's no way Xemnas and Ansem aren't back since they're the most obvious forms of Xehanort for the new Organization

I think it'd be fitting to have the final game of this particular story send off the enemy types, and since as a rule this seque has to be bigger than the last, this seems like a natural way to do it. After all, there has to be new enemies somehow, you can't go from Heartless and Nobodies to just Heartless

Of course, they could make an entirely new genre of enemy... but reusing old enemies and maybe providing some new classes (Nobody equivalents for theCastle Oblivion team don't exist yet, for example) would please fans and save them some money on the design budget

As for certain enemies being clones... nothing a new AI script can't handle

[HeyMouseSayCheese 1,133]

Nomura always gives a REASON why things happen

if anything he gives too much of a reason. There's no way Xemnas and Ansem aren't back since they're the most obvious forms of Xehanort for the new Organization

I think it'd be fitting to have the final game of this particular story send off the enemy types, and since as a rule this seque has to be bigger than the last, this seems like a natural way to do it. After all, there has to be new enemies somehow, you can't go from Heartless and Nobodies to just Heartless

Of course, they could make an entirely new genre of enemy... but reusing old enemies and maybe providing some new classes (Nobody equivalents for theCastle Oblivion team don't exist yet, for example) would please fans and save them some money on the design budget

As for certain enemies being clones... nothing a new AI script can't handle

 

Well they essentially did go from Heartless and Nobodies to just Heartless in BBS with the Unversed (and kind of DDD with the Dream Eaters, though those are at least different). I know KH3 is gonna be on fancy new hardware and it'll be the first new console KH in years, but it's kind of a big leap to translate that into Every Enemy From Past Games Is Gonna Show Up.

 

This is another of those things that just doesn't have a solid basis to support; fans want it (god help me, I'd love CO team based Nobodies), and it makes sense gameplay-wise, but that really amounts to jack shit when it comes down to it. Developers do what they want or what they feel makes sense to them, and that's often not what makes sense to the fans. (Take the Drop system in DDD for example; what fan wanted or expected that garbage?)

 

(Also, yeah, I get that Xemnas and Ansem SoD are wordlessly guaranteed to return, it just doesn't make any damn sense with the way DDD was written and that pisses me off. I really need to stop thinking about the KH story so much, all it does it frustrate me.)