KH13 Roleplay Deathbattle!

[Lady Aleister 1,677]

Lol, I pointed that out.

[Javelin434 3,164]

lol Oath, we all called it.

I betted on Neena...

Because making an OC a god is just wrong on so many levels.

[Guest]

I betted on Neena...Because making an OC a god is just wrong on so many levels.

Well, I don't use his god form unless requested to anyway. It's not fun to fight like that unless under request anyway. Around this time he is tecnically 50 years old, the closest I go to thst is Evil Derik the one time I used him, but you know how thst happened. I use him in his younger form because being OP isn't fun. Like I said in the Death battle PM, it wouldn't be fun for Derik to flick the air and two universes away he kills his target. RP wouldn't be fun. Also, he isn't just *pop* god. He is very much a human anyway, just a truly realized one. He didn't start here, his road to here was a long, arduous journey of growth and learning, struggle, and refusal to be defeated. On top of this, he intended to be a video game character, going up against beings in the truest since of the word, god. You can't face an opponent with the power of Creation and destruction without great power, and if I made them any weaker they wouldn't be gods, would they?And on top of that, he isn't a god, gods are worthless trash, corruptible and weak, and their power is forever limited by that of what they can draw away from a world. Though that power great, is not unlimited. Derik quests for infinite power, not ultimate, as he understands there is no true perfect being, becoming a god would only slow him down. But for ease of purpose, Utopia didn't need to know or say these things, it's unnecessary For the purpose of which he was using him. Next time, I do request you do research into why one might do something in their story rather than judging from the outside.

[XxUtopiaxX 49]

(Apologies again. Computer issues)

 

Deathbattle pt.3

 

Results

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Were you happy with the results?

 

Here's why the battle ended the way it did..

 

• First, and foremost, Derik's speed is off the charts, being at the speed of mach 5 at base, then becoming even faster in Angel and Gray modes.
• Neena's dark mode may have been faster than Derik's Demon Reign, however, Derik's strength increase also increases defense output. Therefore, Neena's strikes were alot less effective against Derik.
• Again, I stress... SPEED! Derik's speed in Gray Reign is roughly 6800 times the speed of light! As a regular human, even Neena, a well trained, high speed, assassin cannot react to such a blinding speed!
• Derik's strength to "burrow through Superman's body" is overpowered itself. Burrowing through a man who can fly through the sun is pretty OP in my opinion.
• At base, Derik's known velocity equals that of mach 5. This also increases force. Therefore, his "work", in a straight line, would be W = mad (or W=(M)(3 806.03525)(D) <-- anybody wanna calculate that??), which would be enough to kill any human being.
• Neena's magical artifacts would have no affect on Grey Reign Derik, as he is immune to Spells. According to Websters, Spells are just magical incantations. For a weapon, or artifact, to be magical, it must first be magically enchanted. Enchantments come from magical incantations. Ergo, Derik would be unaffected.
• Derik is impervious to ranged attacks - A natural aura..... to negate ranged attacks....... yeah.... And Neena, being an assassin, uses both close ranged and far ranged. Her far ranged is useless to Derik so she's already handicapped. Then there's Derik's swordsmanship. Which, puts Neena at more of a complete disadvantage than she already is..

 

Final Conclusion

Derik is just too OP and on a completely different level than Neena

 

Next time on Deathbattle!

Miguel (mine) and the Grim Reaper (Stardustblade)

[Guest]

(Apologies again. Computer issues)

 

 

Deathbattle pt.3

 

Results

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Were you happy with the results?

 

Here's why the battle ended the way it did..

 

[*]First, and foremost, Derik's speed is off the charts, being at the speed of mach 5 at base, then becoming even faster in Angel and Gray modes.

[*]Neena's dark mode may have been faster than Derik's Demon Reign, however, Derik's strength increase also increases defense output. Therefore, Neena's strikes were alot less effective against Derik.

[*]Again, I stress... SPEED! Derik's speed in Gray Reign is roughly 6800 times the speed of light! As a regular human, even Neena, a well trained, high speed, assassin cannot react to such a blinding speed!

[*]Derik's strength to "burrow through Superman's body" is overpowered itself. Burrowing through a man who can fly through the sun is pretty OP in my opinion.

[*]At base, Derik's known velocity equals that of mach 5. This also increases force. Therefore, his "work", in a straight line, would be W = mad (or W=(M)(3 806.03525)(D) <-- anybody wanna calculate that??), which would be enough to kill any human being.

[*]Neena's magical artifacts would have no affect on Grey Reign Derik, as he is immune to Spells. According to Websters, Spells are just magical incantations. For a weapon, or artifact, to be magical, it must first be magically enchanted. Enchantments come from magical incantations. Ergo, Derik would be unaffected.

[*]Derik is impervious to ranged attacks - A natural aura..... to negate ranged attacks....... yeah.... And Neena, being an assassin, uses both close ranged and far ranged. Her far ranged is useless to Derik so she's already handicapped. Then there's Derik's swordsmanship. Which, puts Neena at more of a complete disadvantage than she already is..

 

Final Conclusion

Derik is just too OP and on a completely different level than Neena

 

Next time on Deathbattle!

Miguel (mine) and the Grim Reaper (Stardustblade)

Partially the thing with Sups is that all his extra strength from the sun is auto null'd due to Will of the Warrior(negates outside force buffs permanent buffs). As such, he isn't any more than the normal man cause no solar boost.

 

The rest is generally accurate. Enchanted weapons, depending on the manner of enchanting(if enchanted through blessed metals(ones given divine power through prayer or by word of a Devine being), soaked in a special magic water, are rune engraved for their powes, the like as long as it's not elemental-based) can get by, if they can keep up with his supreme swordsmanship.

 

On top of that, only when someone is really going to be trouble dose Derik drop his coat. It's so heavy and slows him so much that moving is slowed very much as a way of making him more fair of a fight and to keep him from going overboard when unnecessary as well as make him train his speed. Dropping the coat is a dangerous game itself think about it, he already moves mach 5 standard With coat. If this coat truly slows him down, how heavy is it? Very. Very, very heavy... it would take a team of cranes to move it lol.

 

Just things to consider.

[Javelin434 3,164]

(Apologies again. Computer issues)

 

Deathbattle pt.3

 

Results

------------------------

 

Were you happy with the results?

 

Here's why the battle ended the way it did..

 

• First, and foremost, Derik's speed is off the charts
• Again, I stress... SPEED!
• Derik's strength to "burrow through Superman's body" is overpowered itself.
• At base, Derik's known velocity equals that of mach 5.
• Neena's magical artifacts would have no affect on Grey Reign Derik, as he is immune to Spells.
• Derik is impervious to ranged attacks

 

Final Conclusion

Derik is just too OP

 

Auto-immune to ranged weapons? Check.

Allowed to become immune to spells? Check.

Max'd Strength? Check.

Max'd Dexterity? Check.

 

I'd go on a rant, but I risk destroying my laptop in the process. How about we find another god-like OC and pit the two together and see how it turns out? It'll be at the very least fair, balancing being totally optional...

 

 

Like I said in the Death battle PM, it wouldn't be fun for Derik to flick the air and two universes away he kills his target. RP wouldn't be fun.

The fact that you give your OC this ability [regardless of nerfing] is still wrong. 

 

 

Next time, I do request you do research into why one might do something in their story rather than judging from the outside.

Actually, that's a good idea. Give me a full debrief on your main OC then before I go ballistic...

[Guest]

Auto-immune to ranged weapons? Check.Allowed to become immune to spells? Check.Max'd Strength? Check.Max'd Dexterity? Check. I'd go on a rant, but I risk destroying my laptop in the process. How about we find another god-like OC and pit the two together and see how it turns out? It'll be at the very least fair, balancing being totally optional...

mainly because this form isn't MEANT for RP.  

The fact that you give your OC this ability [regardless of nerfing] is still wrong.

Like I said, this version ISN'T MEANT FOR RP. It would be incredibly boring and unfair to dominate everything, there would be no point to having a damn plot in an RP. This. Is. His. End. Stage. I never USE his end stage as I said. Maybe listen next time. 

Actually, that's a good idea. Give me a full debrief on your main OC then before I go ballistic...

I would have just shared it, if I wanted to take the entire story for a 4 game long video game series and type it out(I have it hand written, my writting is so bad that no one else can read it if they wanted so I felt that safer than typing it). And risk people stealing half my ideas. If you really want it, I will send it in PM, but I swear if you steal my ideas or give the info away I will not be pleased. Especially since this is what I want to use to make my big break into the field I've been trying to get into for years now.

[Javelin434 3,164]

It suddenly hit me: Due to our OC's character role, I wonder how close of a fight Yuffie's OC and my OC would be, since it's a Keyblade Assassin with a grudge vs. keyblade Stealth Guard with a purpose...

 

Holy crap that's polar opposites. Like fire and ice, red and blue, white and black, the sun and moon... apples and oranges!

Come to think of it, maybe we shouldn't test this out... Carry on!

Edited March 11, 2015 by Javelin434

[Arya Stark 1,337]

Ok, I've turned hyper critic, just for a bit though. I recognize fully that Derik is stronger than Neena is, and would win nearly 100% of the time. But, I do wish to clarify some slight things.

 

1: Neena's base form has access to all of the artifacts. Not too much of a difference, and it scarcely mattered, but it's a clarification none the less. 

 

2: The artifacts would be used actually far less than what you did. She prefers to use her light and dark magic as well as natural skills in battle. The artifacts are a boon for more specific circumstances as opposed to using them as her default weaponry.

 

3: She uses her magic so much more. I barely saw it in the battle. Really, the magic is her primary form of attack. She likes to be creative and to counter moves as well as advance in various ways with the light and dark magic.

 

4: I personally think that Neena, as a person, was underpowered during the battle. She is stronger and faster than what you have said, and overall more capable that what was used. The problem, I assume, was that I did not have the references nor calculations that Riki has prepared. Why? Because I'm mostly lazy.

 

5: I found the techniques and skill used in the battle to be sub par, and think that she would be more skill and definitely more creative. But that's probably mostly because she was in the hand of a user that's not her creator.

 

Small differences, but I could not help but bring some attention to it.

[Guest]

Ok, I've turned hyper critic, just for a bit though. I recognize fully that Derik is stronger than Neena is, and would win nearly 100% of the time. But, I do wish to clarify some slight things.

 

1: Neena's base form has access to all of the artifacts. Not too much of a difference, and it scarcely mattered, but it's a clarification none the less. 

 

2: The artifacts would be used actually far less than what you did. She prefers to use her light and dark magic as well as natural skills in battle. The artifacts are a boon for more specific circumstances as opposed to using them as her default weaponry.

 

3: She uses her magic so much more. I barely saw it in the battle. Really, the magic is her primary form of attack. She likes to be creative and to counter moves as well as advance in various ways with the light and dark magic.

 

4: I personally think that Neena, as a person, was underpowered during the battle. She is stronger and faster than what you have said, and overall more capable that what was used. The problem, I assume, was that I did not have the references nor calculations that Riki has prepared. Why? Because I'm mostly lazy.

 

5: I found the techniques and skill used in the battle to be sub par, and think that she would be more skill and definitely more creative. But that's probably mostly because she was in the hand of a user that's not her creator.

 

Small differences, but I could not help but bring some attention to it.

I was going to post something like this, but I had to remember that if I went full nut and explained everything that I felt went wrong in that fight on both sides it wouldn't really be in the spirit of it.

[Arya Stark 1,337]

I was going to post something like this, but I had to remember that if I went full nut and explained everything that I felt went wrong in that fight on both sides it wouldn't really be in the spirit of it.

Nah you should. It's the job of the fans to yell at the creator lol

No offense Utopia, I think you did a great job and I'm glad you did it for us.

[Guest]

Nah you should. It's the job of the fans to yell at the creator lol

No offense Utopia, I think you did a great job and I'm glad you did it for us.

 

I should... Hm...

 

Well, let's get started then.

 

For one, both of the fighters Really lacked luster with their styles. They both can pull off INCREDIBLE combos in a matter of just knowing what to do next, as they're both very talented, but there skill wasn't allowed to flourish. In fact, I felt it terribly choked. Derik was reduced to a emotionless supermurderer with minimal combo abilities and no flash or flare, nor his signature style of super offensive combat, which made him kind of boring to read. And Neena just kind of got completely dominated and overwhelmed like she was just a wet paper bag, hardly doing anything that could be considered a true counterattack. Her techniques and strategies as well as her style were choked, and it was like fighting any other scrub OC made in five minutes, which Neena was not.

 

Also, you got a lot of powers wrong. For one, Derik only regenerates in Angel reign, outside of it he dose have very minor healing magic, but it's like using an Oran Berry on a level 100 Pokemon, basically useless. And some of Neena's artifacts were misused grossly.

 

The fight was poorly choreographed and the nerfing on Derik may have well as just not been done considering the fact nothing about his style of combat was actually included and he could have just crushed her skull in Grey Reign instantly and been on his marry way, and Neena basically attacked with pure melee when she is a slightly more magic heavy attacker than physical, which in the end would have meant more shots could actually have been effective against Derik, and giving her an actual sense of being who she is rather than just a rag doll.

 

Then take into account that the scenario is ridiculous. It ends with Derik blowing the whole god damn world up over a girl he could just pimp smack and kill, after she tried to shoot him with an arrow that likely would have just bounced off anyway. Bah, penguins write better scenario, no offense. 

 

Anyway, the melee was weak with little actual clashes, certain elements of both characters were lost, ect. What little range there was and the mistakes made with multiple powers was sort of lame. I know you can do better, Utopia, don't look at this criticism as a bad thing (I mean no harm, friend). You have promise, but don't be afraid to be creative. Study these people extensively. What would have made this fight just a bit better was quite literally just studying the character's personalities and evoking them in sections where they aren't in direct conflict. Let Derik trash talk and make up witty nicknames, let Neena get furious and blast away and do more specialty techniques rather than just relying on her melee which isn't her prime skill.

 

There is my sort of abridged version of what I thought went wrong there, sorry..

[XxUtopiaxX 49]

This week's DEATHBATTLE will be delayed due to busyness. I don't have any time to research at the moment