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  On 2/9/2015 at 5:23 AM, KittensOnFire said:

Many, many stories use it without the creators knowing a thing about the religious part of it.

 

It's become a fantasy concept and a storytelling device. 

 

I sincerely doubt any writer worth their own salt just plain doesn't know that reincarnation is a religious thing, but I see your point. Maybe it's just me that can't separate the religious aspect of it, because everyone else seems okay with the theory. It's just seems so fatalist to me, which is not what Kingdom Hearts as a series is about.

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  On 2/9/2015 at 5:30 AM, HeyMouseSayCheese said:

I sincerely doubt any writer worth their own salt just plain doesn't know that reincarnation is a religious thing, but I see your point. Maybe it's just me that can't separate the religious aspect of it, because everyone else seems okay with the theory. It's just seems so fatalist to me, which is not what Kingdom Hearts as a series is about.

I think it does. Kingdom Hearts is about hearts right. This is basically saying hearts are immortal.

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  On 2/9/2015 at 5:30 AM, HeyMouseSayCheese said:

I sincerely doubt any writer worth their own salt just plain doesn't know that reincarnation is a religious thing, but I see your point. Maybe it's just me that can't separate the religious aspect of it, because everyone else seems okay with the theory. It's just seems so fatalist to me, which is not what Kingdom Hearts as a series is about.

True, but you'd be surprised. Depends on the person and media, some people go back and do research. Others, like say, working on a kids cartoon or a comedy: ''Oh hey this looks like a cool idea lol''

 

''Fate isn't left to chance'' - BBS cover

 

Dude the entire series loves fate n stuff

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  On 2/9/2015 at 5:35 AM, KittensOnFire said:

True, but you'd be surprised. Depends on the person and media, some people go back and do research. Others, like say, working on a kids cartoon or a comedy: ''Oh hey this looks like a cool idea lol''

 

''Fate isn't left to chance'' - BBS cover

 

Dude the entire series loves fate n stuff

 

 

One of the major reasons I don't like BBS, actually. :P Most of the games I like in the series (KH1, CoM, 2, Re:Coded) don't go that route; they heavily feature main characters defying the way things are "supposed" to be- Sora gets the Keyblade back even though it's Riku's, Riku refuses to choose light or dark and chooses the middle path at the end of CoM, Sora and all the good guys overcome Xemnas' wacky plots, Data Sora earns his own heart through his own abilities een though he's just a program.

 

Most of the games don't go the fate route, at least not that I can tell, and I much prefer it that way.

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  On 2/9/2015 at 10:12 AM, Hazimie said:

Inb4 that the KHX Player that we control was none other than the reincarnation of Sora... :P

well theres no rule saying tht u stay the same gender after reincarnation 

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  On 2/9/2015 at 9:53 PM, Nweintraub said:

Sora is special! He's the main freaking character! Riku & Kairi are just Deutragonists & Tritagonists!

Not according to Nomura. Nomura made him the main character precisely because he isn't special.

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  On 2/9/2015 at 10:21 PM, Nweintraub said:

That doesn't make sense! Sora is the main character, so he's special, end of story!

That's the joke we've been making, because Sora is so un-special, he is extremely special. But Nomura says he isn't special, meaning no matter what we say, he isn't.

 

  On 2/9/2015 at 10:12 AM, Hazimie said:

Inb4 that the KHX Player that we control was none other than the reincarnation of Sora... :P

That's actually not possible, as the theory states that the current characters are the reincarnations, you can't die in the future and reincarnate yourself in the past.

 

  On 2/9/2015 at 5:44 AM, HeyMouseSayCheese said:

One of the major reasons I don't like BBS, actually. :P Most of the games I like in the series (KH1, CoM, 2, Re:Coded) don't go that route; they heavily feature main characters defying the way things are "supposed" to be- Sora gets the Keyblade back even though it's Riku's, Riku refuses to choose light or dark and chooses the middle path at the end of CoM, Sora and all the good guys overcome Xemnas' wacky plots, Data Sora earns his own heart through his own abilities een though he's just a program.

 

Most of the games don't go the fate route, at least not that I can tell, and I much prefer it that way.

I like the idea of fate in the games, because it adds realism. There seems to be a sort of forge-your-own-fate theme in a number of them.

 

  On 2/9/2015 at 4:02 AM, Headphone Jack said:

Actually that last bit about Chi was just poking fun at it because I feel like it's whole existence feels so far removed from the KH series' roots, it tries to make the story much more grander than it needs to be, and the fact that it started out as a simple web browser game based on KH lore and yet is now becoming more important with each new update and everytime something from Chi wriggles its way into the KH games we all have access to, it feels forced and tacked on. Like Chi is the snotty nosed stinky kid at the playground that your mom makes you and your friends play with because she doesn't want him to feel left out. The series was doing pretty fine (using that term a bit loosely when considering later entries) and then Chi comes along to throw in a slew of what feels to me like unnecessary plot points. That's why I joked about why would we want to connect Chi to the already established story. Admittedly it's hard to pick up the humor in my original statement so that was my fault. Shoulda added an emoticon :P

Ah, my apologies then.

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  On 2/10/2015 at 2:36 AM, James Mcbride said:

That's the joke we've been making, because Sora is so un-special, he is extremely special. But Nomura says he isn't special, meaning no matter what we say, he isn't.

 

That's actually not possible, as the theory states that the current characters are the reincarnations, you can't die in the future and reincarnate yourself in the past.

 

I like the idea of fate in the games, because it adds realism. There seems to be a sort of forge-your-own-fate theme in a number of them.

 

Ah, my apologies then.

He probably meant it the other way aroundRegardelss, I don't think he is our chi character in reincarnated because that would make him somewhat special, which he isn't. Though Nomura did say that Sora was always destined to wield the Keyblade and all Ven's heart did was expedite the process, and later give him Synch Blade. Being a wielder in a past life could be why he was always destined for it, or it could just be that he had the makings already.

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  On 2/10/2015 at 2:41 AM, Isamu_Kuno said:

KHx happens in the past dude, Just before the first Keyblade War, watch the playthrough I sent you, you'll see.Regardelss, I don't think he is our chi character in reincarnated because that would make him somewhat special, which he isn't. Though Nomura did say that Sora was always destined to wield the Keyblade and all Ven's heart did was expedite the process, and later give him Synch Blade. Being a wielder in a past life could be why he was always destined for it, or it could just be that he had the makings already.

:dry: I know hon, that's what I said. KHx happens in the past, the guy I quoted said that the character you play as in KHx is the reincarnation of Sora. How could that character be the reincarnation of Sora if Chi takes place in the past and Sora is from the future?

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  On 2/10/2015 at 2:49 AM, James Mcbride said:

:dry: I know hon, that's what I said. KHx happens in the past, the guy I quoted said that the character you play as in KHx is the reincarnation of Sora. How could that character be the reincarnation of Sora if Chi takes place in the past and Sora is from the future?

He probably meant it the other way around

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  On 2/10/2015 at 2:36 AM, James Mcbride said:

That's the joke we've been making, because Sora is so un-special, he is extremely special. But Nomura says he isn't special, meaning no matter what we say, he isn't.

 

That's actually not possible, as the theory states that the current characters are the reincarnations, you can't die in the future and reincarnate yourself in the past.

 

I like the idea of fate in the games, because it adds realism. There seems to be a sort of forge-your-own-fate theme in a number of them.

 

Ah, my apologies then.

Haha no worries

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  On 2/9/2015 at 10:12 AM, Hazimie said:

Inb4 that the KHX Player that we control was none other than the reincarnation of Sora... :P

Inb4 Sora is the reincarnation of the creator of the tome of prophecies.

Inb4 Sora is the reincarnation of Ephemera.

Inb4 Sora is the reincarnation of a normal boy from the past.

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