HeyMouseSayCheese 1,133 Posted February 9, 2015 Many, many stories use it without the creators knowing a thing about the religious part of it. It's become a fantasy concept and a storytelling device. I sincerely doubt any writer worth their own salt just plain doesn't know that reincarnation is a religious thing, but I see your point. Maybe it's just me that can't separate the religious aspect of it, because everyone else seems okay with the theory. It's just seems so fatalist to me, which is not what Kingdom Hearts as a series is about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) I sincerely doubt any writer worth their own salt just plain doesn't know that reincarnation is a religious thing, but I see your point. Maybe it's just me that can't separate the religious aspect of it, because everyone else seems okay with the theory. It's just seems so fatalist to me, which is not what Kingdom Hearts as a series is about. I think it does. Kingdom Hearts is about hearts right. This is basically saying hearts are immortal. Edited February 9, 2015 by Isamu_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kittenz 4,281 Posted February 9, 2015 I sincerely doubt any writer worth their own salt just plain doesn't know that reincarnation is a religious thing, but I see your point. Maybe it's just me that can't separate the religious aspect of it, because everyone else seems okay with the theory. It's just seems so fatalist to me, which is not what Kingdom Hearts as a series is about. True, but you'd be surprised. Depends on the person and media, some people go back and do research. Others, like say, working on a kids cartoon or a comedy: ''Oh hey this looks like a cool idea lol'' ''Fate isn't left to chance'' - BBS cover Dude the entire series loves fate n stuff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeyMouseSayCheese 1,133 Posted February 9, 2015 True, but you'd be surprised. Depends on the person and media, some people go back and do research. Others, like say, working on a kids cartoon or a comedy: ''Oh hey this looks like a cool idea lol'' ''Fate isn't left to chance'' - BBS cover Dude the entire series loves fate n stuff One of the major reasons I don't like BBS, actually. Most of the games I like in the series (KH1, CoM, 2, Re:Coded) don't go that route; they heavily feature main characters defying the way things are "supposed" to be- Sora gets the Keyblade back even though it's Riku's, Riku refuses to choose light or dark and chooses the middle path at the end of CoM, Sora and all the good guys overcome Xemnas' wacky plots, Data Sora earns his own heart through his own abilities een though he's just a program. Most of the games don't go the fate route, at least not that I can tell, and I much prefer it that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hazimie 1,595 Posted February 9, 2015 Inb4 that the KHX Player that we control was none other than the reincarnation of Sora... 1 Joker reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joker 1,560 Posted February 9, 2015 Inb4 that the KHX Player that we control was none other than the reincarnation of Sora... well theres no rule saying tht u stay the same gender after reincarnation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nweintraub 630 Posted February 9, 2015 Sora is special! He's the main freaking character! Riku & Kairi are just Deutragonists & Tritagonists! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Sora is special! He's the main freaking character! Riku & Kairi are just Deutragonists & Tritagonists! Not according to Nomura. Nomura made him the main character precisely because he isn't special. Edited February 9, 2015 by Isamu_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nweintraub 630 Posted February 9, 2015 That doesn't make sense! Sora is the main character, so he's special, end of story! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted February 10, 2015 That doesn't make sense! Sora is the main character, so he's special, end of story! It doesn't have to make sense, Nomura's word is law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Mcbride 3 Posted February 10, 2015 That doesn't make sense! Sora is the main character, so he's special, end of story! That's the joke we've been making, because Sora is so un-special, he is extremely special. But Nomura says he isn't special, meaning no matter what we say, he isn't. Inb4 that the KHX Player that we control was none other than the reincarnation of Sora... That's actually not possible, as the theory states that the current characters are the reincarnations, you can't die in the future and reincarnate yourself in the past. One of the major reasons I don't like BBS, actually. Most of the games I like in the series (KH1, CoM, 2, Re:Coded) don't go that route; they heavily feature main characters defying the way things are "supposed" to be- Sora gets the Keyblade back even though it's Riku's, Riku refuses to choose light or dark and chooses the middle path at the end of CoM, Sora and all the good guys overcome Xemnas' wacky plots, Data Sora earns his own heart through his own abilities een though he's just a program. Most of the games don't go the fate route, at least not that I can tell, and I much prefer it that way. I like the idea of fate in the games, because it adds realism. There seems to be a sort of forge-your-own-fate theme in a number of them. Actually that last bit about Chi was just poking fun at it because I feel like it's whole existence feels so far removed from the KH series' roots, it tries to make the story much more grander than it needs to be, and the fact that it started out as a simple web browser game based on KH lore and yet is now becoming more important with each new update and everytime something from Chi wriggles its way into the KH games we all have access to, it feels forced and tacked on. Like Chi is the snotty nosed stinky kid at the playground that your mom makes you and your friends play with because she doesn't want him to feel left out. The series was doing pretty fine (using that term a bit loosely when considering later entries) and then Chi comes along to throw in a slew of what feels to me like unnecessary plot points. That's why I joked about why would we want to connect Chi to the already established story. Admittedly it's hard to pick up the humor in my original statement so that was my fault. Shoulda added an emoticon Ah, my apologies then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) That's the joke we've been making, because Sora is so un-special, he is extremely special. But Nomura says he isn't special, meaning no matter what we say, he isn't. That's actually not possible, as the theory states that the current characters are the reincarnations, you can't die in the future and reincarnate yourself in the past. I like the idea of fate in the games, because it adds realism. There seems to be a sort of forge-your-own-fate theme in a number of them. Ah, my apologies then. He probably meant it the other way aroundRegardelss, I don't think he is our chi character in reincarnated because that would make him somewhat special, which he isn't. Though Nomura did say that Sora was always destined to wield the Keyblade and all Ven's heart did was expedite the process, and later give him Synch Blade. Being a wielder in a past life could be why he was always destined for it, or it could just be that he had the makings already. Edited February 10, 2015 by Isamu_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Mcbride 3 Posted February 10, 2015 KHx happens in the past dude, Just before the first Keyblade War, watch the playthrough I sent you, you'll see.Regardelss, I don't think he is our chi character in reincarnated because that would make him somewhat special, which he isn't. Though Nomura did say that Sora was always destined to wield the Keyblade and all Ven's heart did was expedite the process, and later give him Synch Blade. Being a wielder in a past life could be why he was always destined for it, or it could just be that he had the makings already. :dry: I know hon, that's what I said. KHx happens in the past, the guy I quoted said that the character you play as in KHx is the reincarnation of Sora. How could that character be the reincarnation of Sora if Chi takes place in the past and Sora is from the future? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted February 10, 2015 :dry: I know hon, that's what I said. KHx happens in the past, the guy I quoted said that the character you play as in KHx is the reincarnation of Sora. How could that character be the reincarnation of Sora if Chi takes place in the past and Sora is from the future? He probably meant it the other way around Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Mcbride 3 Posted February 10, 2015 He probably meant it the other way around Perhaps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Headphone Jack 1,147 Posted February 10, 2015 That's the joke we've been making, because Sora is so un-special, he is extremely special. But Nomura says he isn't special, meaning no matter what we say, he isn't. That's actually not possible, as the theory states that the current characters are the reincarnations, you can't die in the future and reincarnate yourself in the past. I like the idea of fate in the games, because it adds realism. There seems to be a sort of forge-your-own-fate theme in a number of them. Ah, my apologies then. Haha no worries 2 TimothyPese and Charleskt reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Komali 594 Posted February 10, 2015 Inb4 that the KHX Player that we control was none other than the reincarnation of Sora... Inb4 Sora is the reincarnation of the creator of the tome of prophecies. Inb4 Sora is the reincarnation of Ephemera. Inb4 Sora is the reincarnation of a normal boy from the past. 3 Kittenz, Joker and Mr. Boba reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirBuckford 43 Posted February 12, 2015 the only thing i got out of this was "riku is a unicorn" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmegaForte 1,674 Posted February 12, 2015 Makes sense. Still I wish Chi was overseas just to understand the characters themselves. (And not watch on YT) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
