Drones 58 Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) With all of these topics on what people wish to see in Kingom Hearts III, what the game needs is more diversity and style in combat. I know this is not an anime series but it has 300x more cutscenes than any other video game I've played so they should improve on combat. The keyblade wielders fight too much like casual humans when they actually can use magic, unlock doors, travel to different worlds/universes, etc. There is very little levitation used in combat, if not any. All off the battles are ground based, which is fine, but aerial combat should be in cutscenes considering it is an ability that every character you play as has. More destruction from strikes with the keyblade and magic would look amazing. Another way to improve on combat is with speed, if the characters can clash faster and teleport it would make the fights more interesting and intense. I feel like all keyblade wielders are laggy humans with giant key-shaped blades restricted to the ground. It definitely would not be a stretch if Kingdom Hearts characters could fight on par with one of the Final Fantasy universes. Perhaps this is too dark for a simple Disney game, but in the first game, keyblades were like green lantern rings in which only a few people from the universe/multiverse had the power to wield. For this reason they should fight like warriors rather than mere humans. I really hope Nomura improves on this with Kingdom Hearts III. Combat scenes are definitely lacking in the series. Edited January 30, 2015 by Drones 3 Skhyatze, Exiblade7 and The Transcendent Key reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatok 6,413 Posted January 30, 2015 ...have you ever played a KH game 4 HeyMouseSayCheese, waytothexdawnx, Omega Ness and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Transcendent Key 12,109 Posted January 30, 2015 In other words, the type of combat you experience when fighting The Lingering Will in Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix. Good lord, that bastard fights like Terra never did in Birth By Sleep! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drones 58 Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) ...have you ever played a KH game Obviously. The only fight I know of that involved levitation was the world of darkness (is that what it's called?) and Sora was in fact using levitation but that's not being implemented into cutscenes... at least Kingdom Hearts II had a fight scene for the final boss battle. Edited January 30, 2015 by Drones Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skhyatze 165 Posted January 30, 2015 If they just took the KH2 fighting system and put it in KH3 with new spells and forms (if KH3 will have them) then I would be fine. Just KH2 improved Is what I hope they do. I don't like the way combat is in the rest of the games except KH1. The ability to teleport would be sick af. I have always thought of the fun I would have designing a battle system in a action-RPG. I would go insane, all out. I can agree with you on them being kinda slow in a few places. Never had that feeling with Sora though. I like what you said in most places. I don't wanna fight like some flying cyborg though. I wanna it to stay on the ground mostly. Air fighting is nice but I always save it for stuff like Final Form. In games like BBS, it is ground fighting a lot though, Feel limited to death in that game. The cutscenes never bother me really since I can just skip them and don't care much for story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sorarocks93 678 Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) It definitely would not be a stretch if Kingdom Hearts characters could fight on par with one of the Final Fantasy universes. Perhaps this is too dark for a simple Disney game, but in the first game, keyblades were like green lantern rings in which only a few people from the universe/multiverse had the power to wield. For this reason they should fight like warriors rather than mere humans. I really hope Nomura improves on this with Kingdom Hearts III. Combat scenes are definitely lacking in the series. But they already can. Sora takes on Squall, Cloud, Yuffie and Tifa all at once in the tournament in KH2. (well of course it isn't canon because if he was in their universe they would reck him) Also, are you talking about cutscenes only? Cause there aren't many cutscenes with actual combat in them. I mean, the one with Sora vs. Roxas has a moment where they fight into the air and the secret ending of KH2FM where the BBS trio faces off against MX. Atleast in the latter they don't really seem simply as normal humans to me. Edited January 30, 2015 by Sorarocks93 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drones 58 Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) But they already can. Sora takes on Squall, Cloud, Yuffie and Tifa all at once in the tournament in KH2. (well of course it isn't canon because if he was in their universe they would reck him) Also, are you talking about cutscenes only? Cause there aren't many cutscenes with actual combat in them. I mean, the one with Sora vs. Roxas has a moment where they fight into the air and the secret ending of KH2FM where the BBS trio faces off against MX. Atleast in the latter they don't really seem simply as normal humans to me. His fight with them is not canon and none of them are using their full strength like in their respective universes. Even if you argue that they're nerfed to exist in the Kingdom Hearts universe, Cloud and Sephiroth had a battle of epic proportions in Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 (even though only 2 was canon). I am referring to cutscenes but don't get me wrong, the gameplay for boss battles could use all of the improvements I mentioned. Edited January 30, 2015 by Drones Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyDixieRect 2,061 Posted January 30, 2015 I need to stop expecting "naked Larxene" whenever I enter topics with a title like this. 3 Javelin434, Sorarocks93 and Demyx. reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sorarocks93 678 Posted January 30, 2015 His fight with them is not canon and none of them are using their full strength like in their respective universes. Even if you argue that they're nerfed to exist in the Kingdom Hearts universe, Cloud and Sephiroth had a battle of epic proportions in Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 (even though only 2 was canon). I am referring to cutscenes but don't get me wrong, the gameplay for boss battles could use all of the improvements I mentioned. Well for cutscenes I can't really think of many where they actually fight for a long time except those two I mentioned. Even in FF, VIII's opening had a fight battle but it was very grounded. Advent Children though, that was insane. And Nomura was the one who directed it, so if there are cutscenes with fights in KH3 you can expect some air fighting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drones 58 Posted January 30, 2015 Well for cutscenes I can't really think of many where they actually fight for a long time except those two I mentioned. Even in FF, VIII's opening had a fight battle but it was very grounded. Advent Children though, that was insane. And Nomura was the one who directed it, so if there are cutscenes with fights in KH3 you can expect some air fighting. Yeah this would fit Kingdom Hearts III perfectly. An Advent Children based keyblade war would be truly epic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Javelin434 3,164 Posted January 30, 2015 I need to stop expecting "naked Larxene" whenever I enter topics with a title like this. I need to stop expecting "naked Kairi" as well I think the usual fighting by button mashing should suffice, but I do admit that KH2's combat system was the best imo [Haven't played DDD yet, so I wouldn't know much about that game] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeyMouseSayCheese 1,133 Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) I know this is not an anime series but it has 300x more cutscenes than any other video game I've played so they should improve on combat. You must have never played a Metal Gear Solid game. I think there's always been a big focus on combat in the games, though I don't like how certain games implement it. As long as KH3 ditches the Command Deck for the good ol' Command Menu, I think the combat will be fine. There are always lots of moves that let characters move really fast and do really flashy things, I don't think the series has ever been lacking in any of that. Edited January 30, 2015 by HeyMouseSayCheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aqua7KH 5,395 Posted January 30, 2015 What do you mean they fight like humans I can't jump like a hundred feet in the air to jump on a floating building castle thing I can't air juggle either I can't even run the mile at my school Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drones 58 Posted January 30, 2015 I can't jump like a hundred feet in the air to jump on a floating building castle thingI can't air juggle eitherI can't even run the mile at my school That's all nice... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firaga 5,947 Posted January 30, 2015 So basically Kingdom Hearts II gameplay but better? I think we can expect that. 1 HeyMouseSayCheese reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyDixieRect 2,061 Posted January 30, 2015 I need to stop expecting "naked Kairi" as well 1 TheFrozenNobody reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liamaru 294 Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Sooo kh2 gamplay nerfed got it i really think they should implant more fight scenes in kingdom hearts as well we really Don't get much of them -_- also chocobo, sora riding a chocobo would be sick!!! Edited February 2, 2015 by liamaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingdom Key D 160 Posted February 2, 2015 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EvVL9Sqrw9I Start watching at 3:40 ish. It might be only a few seconds, but there you have it. Combat, in the air, in a cutscene. That is one of the only ones I can think of, though... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites