Sorarocks93 678 Posted January 18, 2015 So, there is this one thing I don't get. So after CoM, Jiminy's Journal's contents were erased. At first I thought it was because they were strongly tied to Sora's Heart so when Namine erased his memories they were also gone. Now in the first half of Re:coded we learn that that happened because of Sora's Heartless, then at the second half Namine says the same thing that we thought happened in CoM. Sooo, which one is it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fenrissychros 167 Posted January 18, 2015 The diary containing the events of Kh1 was erased in Com because of Namine The diary of Kh2 suddenly had words appearing out of nowhere, and when they tried to investigate it, Bugs appeared in it, which where caused by Sora's heartless 1 waytothexdawnx reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sorarocks93 678 Posted January 18, 2015 The diary containing the events of Kh1 was erased in Com because of Namine The diary of Kh2 suddenly had words appearing out of nowhere, and when they tried to investigate it, Bugs appeared in it, which where caused by Sora's heartless What are the events of KH1 doing in the KH2 diary? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fenrissychros 167 Posted January 18, 2015 What are the events of KH1 doing in the KH2 diary? That's....actually a legit question that i think nobody ever thought. If they digitalize the diary with the words, which was the second one (kh2 events), why did Data-Sora went trough similar events of kh1, and why is Sora's heartless in said diary...? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sora_Roxas26 124 Posted January 18, 2015 you guys are mixing stuff up, thats not what happened Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sorarocks93 678 Posted January 18, 2015 That's....actually a legit question that i think nobody ever thought. If they digitalize the diary with the words, which was the second one (kh2 events), why did Data-Sora went trough similar events of kh1, and why is Sora's heartless in said diary...? I also went to check in the khwiki and it says this: "At the end of Sora's journey through Castle Oblivion, the witch Naminé puts him to sleep so that she can reconstruct his memory, which she had tampered with under coercion from Organization XIII. All of the contents of Jiminy's Journal are removed, a side-effect of the record of Sora's Heartless beginning to assert itself." Honestly when I was watching the movie earlier and I heard about the Heartless it just opened a whole can of worms for me. I'm so confused. I figured it might have been a retcon but then Namine goes and says she did it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fenrissychros 167 Posted January 18, 2015 I also went to check in the khwiki and it says this: "At the end of Sora's journey through Castle Oblivion, the witch Naminé puts him to sleep so that she can reconstruct his memory, which she had tampered with under coercion from Organization XIII. All of the contents of Jiminy's Journal are removed, a side-effect of the record of Sora's Heartless beginning to assert itself." Honestly when I was watching the movie earlier and I heard about the Heartless it just opened a whole can of worms for me. I'm so confused. I figured it might have been a retcon but then Namine goes and says she did it. I havent watched the movie yet, so maybe they retconned something. Honestly: it's coded. It doesn't matter much Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sorarocks93 678 Posted January 18, 2015 I havent watched the movie yet, so maybe they retconned something. Honestly: it's coded. It doesn't matter much Well I wouldn't really mind it if was reconned, but the problem is that it contradicts itself right after that. Oh well... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VisitJoan 2,713 Posted January 18, 2015 Well if the journal really was strongly tied to Sora's memories, wouldn't it make sense for it to have been erased each time Nanime messed with his memories? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King_Graham 135 Posted January 18, 2015 I don't think this is true. I've watched it and never heard anything about Sora's Heartless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sorarocks93 678 Posted January 18, 2015 I don't think this is true. I've watched it and never heard anything about Sora's Heartless. Check from 1:55:50 till 1:56:40 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King_Graham 135 Posted January 18, 2015 Check from 1:55:50 till 1:56:40Okay, thanks. Still doesn't make much sense, unless the Heartless was born from the journals heart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
khoathkeeper13 429 Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) Ah I think what it's saying is when Namine was messing with his memories she erased the journal too. Then she put their memories back, but for some reason (Sora's Heartless and the bugs) the journal stayed blank. Edited January 19, 2015 by khoathkeeper13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sorarocks93 678 Posted January 19, 2015 Ah I think what it's saying is when Namine was messing with his memories she erased the journal too. Then she put their memories back, but for some reason (Sora's Heartless and the bugs) the journal stayed blank. That... actually makes sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isamu Kuno 2,512 Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) From what I understand. the words where erased when Namine changed Sora's memories. When she restored them, the words should have been restored too, but that part was prevented by the data on Sora's Heartless and then the Bugs appeared when Namine tried to put Ven's memories into the Journal. Edited January 23, 2015 by Isamu_Kuno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
