HMK Has My Exact Reasoning for No Star Wars or Marvel

[Hero of Winds 2,576]

 

He's not the best at getting it out there. In fact, it's extremely hard to explain what that exact magic is, but I understand him and for me, ever since the KH3 announcement, I've felt that this magic could easily be torn apart through the use of properties that were never originally created by Disney.

I could be more open to it later down the road, but I feel that KH3 should skip out on Marvel or Star Wars. These properties don't hold the magic that has been built up throughout each Kingdom Hearts title.

[Sora96 17,256]

It's not different to when they threw in live action movies.

[Hero of Winds 2,576]

It's not different to when they threw in live action movies.

It's very different. Pirates and Tron are original Disney properties that add to the magic of Kingdom Hearts. I'll admit that the appearances were weird, but the magic was there.

[Sora96 17,256]

It's very different. Pirates and Tron are original Disney properties that add to the magic of Kingdom Hearts. I'll admit that the appearances were weird, but the magic was there.

 

Yeah and Disney is a business. The Avengers and this new Star Wars saga are MASSIVE. Getting one or both of them in KH3 could be huge for the series, and Disney would consider it marketing for The Avengers III and Star Wars IX.

[Weedanort 8,786]

I'd rather them too look at Kingdom Hearts as an experience, not as a business

[Aru Akise 2,540]

I'd rather them too look at Kingdom Hearts as an experience, not as a business

Ha, are you living today?

 

Business is business.

[Weedanort 8,786]

Ha, are you living today?

 

Business is business.

 

True, but they shouldn't make a business out of everything

[Hero of Winds 2,576]

Yeah and Disney is a business. The Avengers and this new Star Wars saga are MASSIVE. Getting one or both of them in KH3 could be huge for the series, and Disney would consider it marketing for The Avengers III and Star Wars IX.

I see someone doesn't play his games for the experience.

[Sora96 17,256]

I see someone doesn't play his games for the experience.

 

Of course I play them for the experience, but I also understand the business side of things which is even more important in this day and age.

[Hero of Winds 2,576]

Of course I play them for the experience, but I also understand the business side of things which is even more important in this day and age.

For someone who takes gaming as a serious passion, I think it's better that they open they're own eyes to the experience and drop the whole business bullshit. This is why Nintendo games are always good. They're more worried about putting out an experience that they, themselves would enjoy over using it as a business. Nintendo would have practically crashed had they focused on the business side to games. It's also why Naughty Dog games are just as good.

[Sora96 17,256]

For someone who takes gaming as a serious passion, I think it's better that they open they're own eyes to the experience and drop the whole business bullshit. This is why Nintendo games are always good. They're more worried about putting out an experience that they, themselves would enjoy over using it as a business. Nintendo would have practically crashed had they focused on the business side to games. It's also why Naughty Dog games are just as good.

 

I'd disagree, personally I don't like many Nintendo games and their consoles nearly always struggle but Nintendo doesn't care because they're rich.

 

Naughty Dog is a small company owned by Sony, I definitely wouldn't compare them with say Square Enix.

[Mysterious Figure 353]

I just feel like Star wars and Marvel are too big to fit into a single world, I wouldn't mind a few easter eggs here and there but a world wouldn't work in my opinion

[Weedanort 8,786]

For someone who takes gaming as a serious passion, I think it's better that they open they're own eyes to the experience and drop the whole business bullshit. This is why Nintendo games are always good. They're more worried about putting out an experience that they, themselves would enjoy over using it as a business. Nintendo would have practically crashed had they focused on the business side to games. It's also why Naughty Dog games are just as good.

 

That's why Pokémon, and several other Nintendo franchises games are always good: they leave a mark on us. A good mark

 

Let me get my popcorn real fast, I sense a storm coming

[Exiblade7 1,917]

I can see star wars and marvel in kingdom hearts 3, but if it isn't in kingdom hearts 3, i'm not going to go complain about why they should have put star wars and marvel in kingdom hearts 3. 

[Aru Akise 2,540]

That's why Pokémon, and several other Nintendo franchises games are always good: they leave a mark on us. A good mark

 

Let me get my popcorn real fast, I sense a storm coming

I've been eating popcorn since a while ago

[tessaxmarie 35]

If Disney was smart, they'd put their money into the new saga after the Dark Seeker saga. This line of kingdom hearts games attracts mostly people between the ages of 14-26, just because a majority of people who still pay attention to the games played KH1 at a very young age. Putting Marvel or Star Wars in a series that has already been so highly developed on classic Disney films, too many games to keep up with, and a generation that grew up on a different Disney setting would be a setback. Gathering a new generation of people and a new set of ideals on a different saga would attract more people to invest in the new games without having any thoughts as to what the games should be like.

[Shulk 8,623]

It's not different to when they threw in live action movies.

I always thought Port Royal was out of place. I feel like Star Wars (as much as I love it) and Marvel would be the same way.

[Kaweebo 3,617]

Okay. I still would like to see Star Wars, anyway.

 

Port Royal was really only out of place for me because of the actor playing Jack Sparrow, who (in my opinion) was miscast. Otherwise, I applaud the novelty of other Disney properties being incorporated to add something fresh and different. 

Edited December 19, 2014 by Kaweebo

[Cucco 1,907]

It's very different. Pirates and Tron are original Disney properties that add to the magic of Kingdom Hearts. I'll admit that the appearances were weird, but the magic was there.

Flawed logic.  All Marvel films for the past few years are original disney properties. The newest Star Wars movie is an original disney property. Disney didn't make nightmare before christmas or pirates, but they're original disney properties. If anything, Star Wars fits better with the "magic" of kh than either of those.

Okay. I still would like to see Star Wars, anyway.

 

Port Royal was really only out of place for me because of the actor playing Jack Sparrow, who (in my opinion) was miscast. Otherwise, I applaud the novelty of other Disney properties being incorporated to add something fresh and different. 

Fun fact, the VA of Jack Sparrow is the same as that of FFX Tidus.

[Kaweebo 3,617]

Fun fact, the VA of Jack Sparrow is the same as that of FFX Tidus.

He's also the voice of Ratchet from Ratchet & Clank and Obi-Wan from Star Wars: The Clone Wars. So, he's not a bad voice actor...he's just a bad Johnny Depp. 

[Cucco 1,907]

He's also the voice of Ratchet from Ratchet & Clank and Obi-Wan from Star Wars: The Clone Wars. So, he's not a bad voice actor...he's just a bad Johnny Depp. 

Yep.

[Skyace 65 75]

Movies don't have a magic feeling, or give one off in the game because they are made by Disney. Movies have magic because they did a lot of things right.

 

Or let me counter with another question. Final Fantasy isn't made by Disney, so why doesn't it ruin the magic of the experience? Because the characters are used in the right ways and were well created characters.

[KingdomHearts3 2,591]

I completely agree with HMK.  I'd say Marvel and Star Wars should stay out of KH3.  I know what he is talking about when he speaks of magic.  There has been one tone ever since the series started and KH3 will be a dramatic turn for the series.  Why put in something that is not directly from Disney now and blow it? They haven't put anything Pixar, so they should not add Marvel or Star Wars until after KH3. Then, they can go all out. If they still put it in, I'll be a bit disappointed unless they make it amazing, and then I will change my mind. Otherwise, it should stay out for now.

[JBone 30]

Marvel: Yes, Please. I'm not saying throw the whole Avengers in there,but a Guardians of the galaxy world or something could work.There is nothing more magical than the relationship between Rocket And Groot.

 

Star Wars: It has a huge influence on Kingdom Hearts. Xemnases Ethereal Blades, Sora yelling "Force!" When using gravity, Strike Raid?, Etc. I bet they'll jump at the chance to include it in some way. I would be fine with Darth Vader as a super tough hidden boss.

Edited December 23, 2014 by JBone