Why Disney Castle?

[RoxSox 3,593]

Of all the places in KH2 for a portal to the Keyblade Graveyard to appear, why Disney Castle? I'm just terribly curious if this has ever been addressed in any interviews or anything because it's quite odd.

 

If Nomura has never given a reason, does anybody have any good theories? I thought for a second it might have something to do with Mickey's Warpstar thingy from BBS but he gives that back to Yen Sid in the end credits of BBS if I remember correctly so that's not it.

 

It's just something of interest.

 

Actually for that matter, is the Lingering Will battle canon? I forget if this has ever been confirmed or denied either.

[Kaweebo 3,617]

It wasn't originally, so far as I know, but I believe it's been made official canon, now. But yeah, try explaining how that works or why Sora would have any reason to return to the Castle once he saved it from Maleficent in the first place. It's just like the Absent Silhouette stuff trying to insert itself into the story. It doesn't make sense, even in a series like this.

 

I can't really come up with any logical way for that to make sense, though. It's just there because Nomura wanted a tough boss battle and a tease for a then-future game. 

Edited December 12, 2014 by Kaweebo

[hatok 6,413]

Nowhere else to put it

They already had Absent Silhouettes set up all over the worlds, they couldn't exactly just put it in a random Disney world

 

I guess they could have put it in The World That Never Was, but where?

Disney Castle was already pretty barren, so it seems like a good place to shove it to me

[RoxSox 3,593]

 

I guess they could have put it in The World That Never Was, but where?

 

Memory Skyscraper sounds like a good place. Right there on the step. And it being where you initially take on Xemnas could give it a story related excuse for being there once you've defeated him since Xemnas is linked to Terra... just a thought. Maybe then it would only appear after you've beaten all the Mushroom XIII since Mushroom I is usually there.

[Fenrissychros 167]

I thought that maybe after the events of Coded and Mickey told Sora and Riku to come over, he went to talk with Yen Sid (the secret scene of Coded). Meanwhile Sora and Riku wait for him in Disney Castle after Donald and Goofy come over to pick them up. While in Disney Castle, a portal opens in the Cornerstone room and Sora goes to check it out. That's when Terra fight happens

 

Menwhile Riku is cutting his hair against his will

[Heartless Plush 177]

I like to think of it as mickey having a portal there so he can try and find his missing friends

[Kingdom Of Me 171]

It wasn't originally, so far as I know, but I believe it's been made official canon, now. But yeah, try explaining how that works or why Sora would have any reason to return to the Castle once he saved it from Maleficent in the first place. It's just like the Absent Silhouette stuff trying to insert itself into the story. It doesn't make sense, even in a series like this.

 

I can't really come up with any logical way for that to make sense, though. It's just there because Nomura wanted a tough boss battle and a tease for a then-future game. 

 

 

So the lingering Will is canon? How? You have to beat the entire game BEFORE you are allowed to fight him... but everyone knows that after you beat the game Sora goes to the islands and that starts DDD... so what, how does that work?? 

Edited December 12, 2014 by Kingdom Of Me

[Aru Akise 2,540]

So the lingering Will is canon? How? You have to beat the entire game BEFORE you are allowed to fight him... but everyone knows that after you beat the game Sora goes to the islands and that starts DDD... so what, how does that work?? 

Oh come on. There's no need to think so deeply over such a thing.

 

I don't see it being made canon anywhere, Nomura only mentions  how impactful it is to the feels defeating it and then going on to play BbS and find out the reason behind that lone armor being there.

[Master Keeper 687]

Oh come on. There's no need to think so deeply over such a thing.

 

I don't see it being made canon anywhere, Nomura only mentions  how impactful it is to the feels defeating it and then going on to play BbS and find out the reason behind that lone armor being there.

When Sora meets Lingering Will and remembers him from KHIIFM events, only at that time you'll realize how much you're wrong.

So the lingering Will is canon? How? You have to beat the entire game BEFORE you are allowed to fight him... but everyone knows that after you beat the game Sora goes to the islands and that starts DDD... so what, how does that work?? 

It is called Secret Boss, and secret bosses of KH usually appear after beating the game and every series has it's own way of unlocking secret bosses. We all know that you can freely play KH after beating it but that doesn't mean that whatever we do after beating it doesn't count. 

[Aru Akise 2,540]

When Sora meets Lingering Will and remembers him from KHIIFM events, only at that time you'll realize how much you're wrong.

Didn't get what you're saying.

 

And I think I messed up with my English up there.

 

I haven't seen any material stating it is canon. I myself believe it is canon.

[Master Keeper 687]

Didn't get what you're saying.

 

And I think I messed up with my English up there.

 

I haven't seen any material stating it is canon. I myself believe it is canon.

I meant that when Sora remembers Lingering Will in KHIII it will prove that the fight against Lingering Will on KHIIFM was cannon.Besides, it is obvious that the fight was cannon without even searching for a sentence from Nomura that proves it.

[Aru Akise 2,540]

I meant that when Sora remembers Lingering Will in KHIII it will prove that the fight against Lingering Will on KHIIFM was cannon.Besides, it is obvious that the fight was cannon without even searching for a sentence from Nomura that proves it.

Oh now I understand.

 

Agreed.

[King_Graham 135]

It wasn't originally, so far as I know, but I believe it's been made official canon, now. But yeah, try explaining how that works or why Sora would have any reason to return to the Castle once he saved it from Maleficent in the first place. It's just like the Absent Silhouette stuff trying to insert itself into the story. It doesn't make sense, even in a series like this.I can't really come up with any logical way for that to make sense, though. It's just there because Nomura wanted a tough boss battle and a tease for a then-future game.

For one, Chip and Dale can contact Sora on the Gummi ship. They appear in the Hall of the Cornerstone when it appears. But yeah, the placement makes no sense. You could argue better for a cod in the garden of assemblage. Edited December 15, 2014 by Andrew Rowland

[Kaweebo 3,617]

So the lingering Will is canon? How? You have to beat the entire game BEFORE you are allowed to fight him... but everyone knows that after you beat the game Sora goes to the islands and that starts DDD... so what, how does that work?? 

I have no idea, that's just what I've heard. It seems confirmed now especially since they had Terra's armor pull out the cape in 2.5. at the end of BBS. 

[mistydolphin 25]

Its just there to be there. no rhyme or reason to it.im fine thinking that. but if you want an explanation... for all i know it could have sometbing to do with those portals to the past. i dunno, the fun is in NOT knowing. keeps you guessing.

[Joker 1,560]

Disney castle was once Night Break Town

[hatok 6,413]

Long since stated by Nomura that while the interactions of the Lingering Will and Sora are canon, their meeting and the fight in KH2 are non-canon

It's the same deal as with the Mysterious Figure in Birth by Sleep. Young Xehanort EXISTS, but Terra Aqua and Ventus returning to the Land of Departure to fight him didn't actually happen

[Kingdom Of Me 171]

Long since stated by Nomura that while the interactions of the Lingering Will and Sora are canon, their meeting and the fight in KH2 are non-canon

It's the same deal as with the Mysterious Figure in Birth by Sleep. Young Xehanort EXISTS, but Terra Aqua and Ventus returning to the Land of Departure to fight him didn't actually happen

so.... you are telling me that I'm most likely going to spend a large amount of my break fighting one of the hardest bosses in kingdomhearts..... dying countless times.... and have all that work be non-canon. Although I must admit, the likely-hood of Sora beating Lingering Will seems pretty unlikely considering that he couldn't be much better than Terra if close at all.

[King_Graham 135]

Long since stated by Nomura that while the interactions of the Lingering Will and Sora are canon, their meeting and the fight in KH2 are non-canonIt's the same deal as with the Mysterious Figure in Birth by Sleep. Young Xehanort EXISTS, but Terra Aqua and Ventus returning to the Land of Departure to fight him didn't actually happen

It sounds like you're saying the interactions are both canon and non-canon.Aldo MF fight was confirmed to ne canon. Nomura only neglected to say who he fought. Most likely Ventus after his DI encounter with Vanitas. Edited December 16, 2014 by Andrew Rowland

[hatok 6,413]

so.... you are telling me that I'm most likely going to spend a large amount of my break fighting one of the hardest bosses in kingdomhearts..... dying countless times.... and have all that work be non-canon. Although I must admit, the likely-hood of Sora beating Lingering Will seems pretty unlikely considering that he couldn't be much better than Terra if close at all.

It sounds like you're saying the interactions are both canon and non-canon.Aldo MF fight was confirmed to ne canon. Nomura only neglected to say who he fought.Most likely Ventus after his DI encounter with Vanitas.

Basically the actual events didn't happen, but the way they interact is. If Sora went to meet the Lingering Spirit, they would interact like that, but Sora never went there. Similar deal with MF