Ferguson - This is Crazy!

[Sora_Roxas26 124]

Am I the only person watching the crazy people rioting in Ferguson?

[Javelin434 3,164]

Yes. I'm watching the Colbert Report right now to give a hoot about it. 

Leave it to the media to make it a racial issue, rather than looking at it objectively and in a professional manner.

[qwertywarrior16 47]

I live a few miles from Ferguson.

[Skhyatze 165]

Pretty crazy. Got nothing but Tupac playing in my head whenever I hear about it. Just hope this ends up doing something good in the end. 

[Shana09 5,769]

To be honest its not really crazy when you realize (the reason has been out there for months) why they are rioting. I mean, riots aren't obviously good, but they aren't crazy by the very least. This is terrible nonetheless and I don't understand why the shooter isn't charged at all.

[Lalalablah 1,538]

Yes. I'm watching the Colbert Report right now to give a hoot about it. 

Leave it to the media to make it a racial issue, rather than looking at it objectively and in a professional manner.

This is every bit a racial issue; racism still exists in America. If Mike Brown was white, Darren Wilson would've been arrested right away. But instead that scum bag was let off the hook, just like the many other sick murderers of innocent, unarmed black people were. 

[Jilly Shears 2,144]

This is every bit a racial issue; racism still exists in America. If Mike Brown was white, Darren Wilson would've been arrested right away. But instead that scum bag was let off the hook, just like the many other sick murderers of innocent, unarmed black people were. 

Let's be honest, though, was anyone expecting a different outcome? This is exactly the same scenario as Trayvon Martin's case, the only difference now being that social media has progressed to the point where literally nothing can be hidden from the public anymore.I disagree with rioting in general, but damn if the KKK is supporting the side you represent, then there's definitely something racial going on.

[Lalalablah 1,538]

Let's be honest, though, was anyone expecting a different outcome? This is exactly the same scenario as Trayvon Martin's case, the only difference now being that social media has progressed to the point where literally nothing can be hidden from the public anymore.I disagree with rioting in general, but damn if the KKK is supporting the side you represent, then there's definitely something racial going on.

Oh of course, I would've been honestly surprised if he was indicted. But I'm still furious, and I can't even begin to comprehend what black people are feeling right now, this is an injustice that's gone on for far too long. 

[John Casey 25]

Call me a sociopath or cynic, but I'm LOVING THIS!  The folks at Ferguson lost the moral high ground a long, loooong time ago the moment they made it clear they were ready to crucify this cop regardless of the outcome.  No indictment?  OUTRAGE!  WHERE IS JUSTICE!  Indicted with one or two charges?  NOT ENOUGH!  HE KILLED SOME KID!

 

Who of course robbed a store minutes before getting shot....but let's not worry about those little insignificant details!

 

The horrible truth is, those people don't give a shit about the kid.  There's a few good, decent the souls there to be sure, but most of them were just begging for the perfect excuse to stir shit up.  Since yesterday, they were out and about in the front of the courthouse fully geared up to start rioting.  They were planning on doing it regardless of the jury's decision.  And now, they have a nice fat excuse.

 

The real tragedy here is what's gonna happen to the rest of the police force at Ferguson, and their families.  By simple association, their lives are now in danger, and I can easily see a few of them having to go the witness protection route to keep themselves and their families safe.  I certainly don't support racial profiling or shooting people without probable cause, but the fact is, witness testimonies were hilariously inconsistent, and the people of that town turned this into an unnecessary shitstorm themselves.  So I say, rejoice in the chaos.  REVEL IN THE PANDEMONIUM!  Or something.

 

EDIT:  And a tiny bit of proof to...erm, prove, my theory here.

 

http://gawker.com/updating-protests-erupt-in-ferguson-after-prosecutor-w-1662972391

 

Looting!  Because, as we all know, the unjust death of an unarmed teenager is totally the fault of local small businesses.  Burn them to the ground!  Smash the windows!  And jack those Blu-ray players and TV's!  LET JUSTICE BE SERVED!

Edited November 25, 2014 by John Casey

[Ceriraye 485]

I'm so mad, he should be in jail and not walking free. PFFT racism isn't around anymore my ass. Open your damn eyes it's everywhere and in plain sight

[Sora_Roxas26 124]

To be honest its not really crazy when you realize (the reason has been out there for months) why they are rioting. I mean, riots aren't obviously good, but they aren't crazy by the very least. This is terrible nonetheless and I don't understand why the shooter isn't charged at all.

 

and the only people who saw ALL the true evidence was the Jury, and they didn't think it should even go to trial at all, the media and people lying to the police and media made this happen the way it did, and I think the people who straight up lied on social media and to reporters and police should have consequences in some way 

Edited November 25, 2014 by Shana09

[hatok 6,413]

It's not entirely true that this man wouldn't have been arrested if the person was white

the situation would be different, but there is an issue here of protecting him because he's a cop. His crime and the reaction around it is more racially charged, but it's not the only horrific element at play here

[HaneulWay 92]

 

Call me a sociopath or cynic, but I'm LOVING THIS!  The folks at Ferguson lost the moral high ground a long, loooong time ago the moment they made it clear they were ready to crucify this cop regardless of the outcome.  No indictment?  OUTRAGE!  WHERE IS JUSTICE!  Indicted with one or two charges?  NOT ENOUGH!  HE KILLED SOME KID!

 

Who of course robbed a store minutes before getting shot....but let's not worry about those little insignificant details!

 

The horrible truth is, those people don't give a shit about the kid.  There's a few good, decent the souls there to be sure, but most of them were just begging for the perfect excuse to stir shit up.  Since yesterday, they were out and about in the front of the courthouse fully geared up to start rioting.  They were planning on doing it regardless of the jury's decision.  And now, they have a nice fat excuse.

 

The real tragedy here is what's gonna happen to the rest of the police force at Ferguson, and their families.  By simple association, their lives are now in danger, and I can easily see a few of them having to go the witness protection route to keep themselves and their families safe.  I certainly don't support racial profiling or shooting people without probable cause, but the fact is, witness testimonies were hilariously inconsistent, and the people of that town turned this into an unnecessary shitstorm themselves.  So I say, rejoice in the chaos.  REVEL IN THE PANDEMONIUM!  Or something.

 

EDIT:  And a tiny bit of proof to...erm, prove, my theory here.

 

http://gawker.com/updating-protests-erupt-in-ferguson-after-prosecutor-w-1662972391

 

Looting!  Because, as we all know, the unjust death of an unarmed teenager is totally the fault of local small businesses.  Burn them to the ground!  Smash the windows!  And jack those Blu-ray players and TV's!  LET JUSTICE BE SERVED!

 

the rioters are crazy, and if you think otherwise, you need psychiatric help

and the only people who saw ALL the true evidence was the Jury, and they didn't think it should even go to trial at all, the media and people lying to the police and media made this happen the way it did, and I think the people who straight up lied on social media and to reporters and police should have consequences in some way 

-He took one pack of cigarettes.  A minor felony. Mike Brown could have been let go and runaway for the officer to call backup.   People are rioting because they're tired of the shit repeatedly happening without a different outcome, and it seems no one responds until its such a "suprise". These people give every care in the world about this child because they look at one of their family members or friends and wonder if they could be next. Imagine if every innocent, murdered black person got as much press attention as Mike B. There wouldn't be enough hours in the day to brodcast the rest of the news."Only when you make enough noise will you get a response", is what the people of Ferguson have learned. The police will go back to their lives without a care in the world. No one's attacking them. No one has. As to the decision, we can cut out the what if scenarios. You haven't the slightest clue whether or not the looting would have occured if Wilson was indicted. No one can see the future.

 

-Don't know if you realize this or not but there were nine more white jurers than black. The reason it didn't go to trial because the jurerers still have to live there, whichever out come. Black or white, they could face retaliation for their choice in indictement.  Let's make sure we're not just making this about what people on the scene making things up, but the long time the police had to construct a story, and that their was plenty of testimony from witnesses on the scene and barely any from the department. 

[Sora_Roxas26 124]

-He took one pack of cigarettes.  A minor felony. Mike Brown could have been let go and runaway for the officer to call backup.   People are rioting because they're tired of the shit repeatedly happening without a different outcome, and it seems no one responds until its such a "suprise". These people give every care in the world about this child because they look at one of their family members or friends and wonder if they could be next. Imagine if every innocent, murdered black person got as much press attention as Mike B. There wouldn't be enough hours in the day to brodcast the rest of the news."Only when you make enough noise will you get a response", is what the people of Ferguson have learned. The police will go back to their lives without a care in the world. No one's attacking them. No one has. As to the decision, we can cut out the what if scenarios. You haven't the slightest clue whether or not the looting would have occured if Wilson was indicted. No one can see the future.

 

-Don't know if you realize this or not but there were nine more white jurers than black. The reason it didn't go to trial because the jurerers still have to live there, whichever out come. Black or white, they could face retaliation for their choice in indictement.  Let's make sure we're not just making this about what people on the scene making things up, but the long time the police had to construct a story, and that their was plenty of testimony from witnesses on the scene and barely any from the department. 

there were 9 white jurors and 3 black, not 9 more white then black, that would make it 12 white and 3 black, you seem to have no grasp of reality in this situation, which makes you apart of the problem, if people want to continue to play the race card, then they shouldn't have succumb to stereotypes like they did when they started rioting, and if these people really think damaging there town because of a decision they don't like will help in any way, then they are idiots at the highest level, if the people who didn't like the outcome spent the time and energy they spent destroying their town to help make sure this didn't happen again, things might have improved, but instead, they rioted, burned police cars and buildings to the ground, and the broke into and looted stores owned by innocent people, all the damage they did will cost a hella ton of money, but what the police, gov, and community could have done with the time and money the riots and looting took and will take to fix, they could have improved the situation and at least tried to make sure it wont happen again, but instead they insured more violence, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind

 

and FYI THE RIOTERS ARE ATTACKING THE POLICE AND MEDIA!!! 

Edited November 25, 2014 by Sora_Roxas26

[Aru Akise 2,540]

When I saw this I thought about the tractor.. Massey Ferguson.

[Shana09 5,769]

the rioters are crazy, and if you think otherwise, you need psychiatric help

and the only people who saw ALL the true evidence was the Jury, and they didn't think it should even go to trial at all, the media and people lying to the police and media made this happen the way it did, and I think the people who straight up lied on social media and to reporters and police should have consequences in some way 

 

The rioters are not crazy. In Ferguson there is a strong distinction between whites and blacks, with whites being cops. They've been dealing with this sort of issue for a long time, now comes to the point that a white cop shot an unarmed black kid caused them to be furious and fed up with it.

They aren't crazy, because crazy is implying they are doing extreme things without a reasonable purpose. Yes burning buildings and robbing people is awful which I clearly said in my first post as "riots aren't obviously good".

They aren't lying, they are telling the truth. Besides, there could be not enough evidence supporting the guy killed the kid but that doesn't mean he didn't do so. There just isn't enough proof, but its wildly known it did happen. This isn't the first time a case like this got this kind of verdict.

[John Casey 25]

I have never loved this song as much as I do now:

 

Or this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlYXp_3A64k

[Sora_Roxas26 124]

The rioters are not crazy. In Ferguson there is a strong distinction between whites and blacks, with whites being cops. They've been dealing with this sort of issue for a long time, now comes to the point that a white cop shot an unarmed black kid caused them to be furious and fed up with it.

They aren't crazy, because crazy is implying they are doing extreme things without a reasonable purpose. Yes burning buildings and robbing people is awful which I clearly said in my first post as "riots aren't obviously good".

They aren't lying, they are telling the truth. Besides, there could be not enough evidence supporting the guy killed the kid but that doesn't mean he didn't do so. There just isn't enough proof, but its wildly known it did happen. This isn't the first time a case like this got this kind of verdict.

if you knew anything you would know that the evidence proves the cop told the truth, and the rioters are bat shit crazy, they destroyed buildings, businesses, and property of innocent people, they robbed innocent people, they attacked cops who are just doing their jobs

Edited November 25, 2014 by Shana09

[Jilly Shears 2,144]

if you knew anything you would know that the evidence proves the cop told the truth, and the rioters are bat shit crazy, they destroyed buildings, businesses, and property of innocent people, they robbed innocent people, they attacked cops who are just doing their jobs, you are sick in the head if you think thats ok, and I mean seriously, go get help, not kidding 

But there's been a shit ton of peaceful stand-ins and protests before this too. There are always going to be awful people who take advantage of a situation like this because they feed off of the chaos and anarchy. Mike Brown's parents have literally asked that people don't riot, so just notice that the people who really want change to happen aren't the ones involved in the destructive riots in the first place.

[Lalalablah 1,538]

Call me a sociopath or cynic, but I'm LOVING THIS!  The folks at Ferguson lost the moral high ground a long, loooong time ago the moment they made it clear they were ready to crucify this cop regardless of the outcome.  No indictment?  OUTRAGE!  WHERE IS JUSTICE!  Indicted with one or two charges?  NOT ENOUGH!  HE KILLED SOME KID!

 

Who of course robbed a store minutes before getting shot....but let's not worry about those little insignificant details!

 

The horrible truth is, those people don't give a shit about the kid.  There's a few good, decent the souls there to be sure, but most of them were just begging for the perfect excuse to stir shit up.  Since yesterday, they were out and about in the front of the courthouse fully geared up to start rioting.  They were planning on doing it regardless of the jury's decision.  And now, they have a nice fat excuse.

 

The real tragedy here is what's gonna happen to the rest of the police force at Ferguson, and their families.  By simple association, their lives are now in danger, and I can easily see a few of them having to go the witness protection route to keep themselves and their families safe.  I certainly don't support racial profiling or shooting people without probable cause, but the fact is, witness testimonies were hilariously inconsistent, and the people of that town turned this into an unnecessary shitstorm themselves.  So I say, rejoice in the chaos.  REVEL IN THE PANDEMONIUM!  Or something.

 

EDIT:  And a tiny bit of proof to...erm, prove, my theory here.

 

http://gawker.com/updating-protests-erupt-in-ferguson-after-prosecutor-w-1662972391

 

Looting!  Because, as we all know, the unjust death of an unarmed teenager is totally the fault of local small businesses.  Burn them to the ground!  Smash the windows!  And jack those Blu-ray players and TV's!  LET JUSTICE BE SERVED!

Wrong. You're seeing a community come together and grieve over the loss of a son, a friend, a student, a HUMAN BEING. To say they don't care about Mike is a slap to the face. Those police officers should be fearful. The law serves us, not the other way around. The police are not trained members of the army and are abusing their power.

Witness testimonies were inconsistent? Uh no... just no.. they line up pretty well.

This is not an "unnecessary shitstorm." People are suffering, this country is a tragic mess. They are bringing about change. Protests were peaceful for a long time, and the few people that decided to riot do not represent the vast majority.  Like seriously if you're more worried about rioting instead of the horrendous acts committed by the police, uncalled for death of a teen, and the systematic racism that is so heavily present in America, you really need to get your priorities in check. You can rebuild a store, but you can never bring back this poor boy's life.

 

there were 9 white jurors and 3 black, not 9 more white then black, that would make it 12 white and 3 black, you seem to have no grasp of reality in this situation, which makes you apart of the problem, if people want to continue to play the race card, then they shouldn't have succumb to stereotypes like they did when they started rioting, and if these people really think damaging there town because of a decision they don't like will help in any way, then they are idiots at the highest level, if the people who didn't like the outcome spent the time and energy they spent destroying their town to help make sure this didn't happen again, things might have improved, but instead, they rioted, burned police cars and buildings to the ground, and the broke into and looted stores owned by innocent people, all the damage they did will cost a hella ton of money, but what the police, gov, and community could have done with the time and money the riots and looting took and will take to fix, they could have improved the situation and at least tried to make sure it wont happen again, but instead they insured more violence, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind

 

and FYI THE RIOTERS ARE ATTACKING THE POLICE AND MEDIA!!! 

sigh

They did not succumb to stereotypes, that's just you being racist. You have no idea how hard it is for a black person (or any person who isn't white) to try and get their voice heard in a country supporting white privilege, unless you yourself are a person of color. Like I said before, the few who resorted to violence do not represent the majority. The police and government are not here to help, get it through your head that they are not on our side. What's going on now will cause change. This isn't the first time an unarmed black kid was murdered. And guess what, cops don't give a shit, they've done nothing to prevent this. THATS WHY IT KEEPS HAPPENING.

[Shana09 5,769]

if you knew anything you would know that the evidence proves the cop told the truth, and the rioters are bat shit crazy, they destroyed buildings, businesses, and property of innocent people, they robbed innocent people, they attacked cops who are just doing their jobs, you are sick in the head if you think thats ok, and I mean seriously, go get help, not kidding 

 

Not really since its lack of sufficient evidence. I can go commit a crime but leave little to no evidence behind, doesn't mean I didn't do it.

Great, you understood what a riot is. This doesn't make them crazy since thats like saying they have no understandable reason at all which they do. They have a good reason, no matter what.

 

Oh and hey, don't attack people on this site even in an argument. Its rude and unnecessary. We can disagree all we want, but thats one line you cannot cross. I'll edit those out. Lets make sure that does not happen again.

[John Casey 25]

Then those morons can happily consider themselves slapped in the face by yours truly.  Stealing televisions from a McDonalds, or burning down a random diner has not a godamn thing to do with anything.  So yes, I will accuse them of being a bunch of jackasses who are simply using this incident as justifiable cause to create chaos.

 

They are nothing more than hecklers, using a tragedy as their personal conduit for disorder and destruction.  And if they're gonna act like beasts, then I have absolutely no issue perceiving or treating them as such.  White, black, red or blue's got nothing to do with it.  The same crap is happening in other cities (though not as intensely), and not limited to races.

 

In short, people are too stupid and irresponsible to comprehend how the system works.  Is the system broken?  Hell yes.  But the funny thing with a broken system, you can always abuse it.  But these people don't know how it works, and then bitch about how it doesn't cater to them when they don't even know how to take advantage of it.  They don't know how to play the game, and they don't even want to know how.  They just want to bitch and moan and cause chaos, and they get no sympathy from me.  Only incessant laughter.  To me it's like a cock fight, only I like animals, hence I feel no moral pressures from giggling at this.

Edited November 25, 2014 by John Casey

[Weedanort 8,786]

Then those animals can happily consider themselves slapped in the face by yours truly.  Stealing televisions from a McDonalds, or burning down a random diner has not a godamn thing to do with anything.  So yes, I will accuse them of being a bunch of jackasses who are simply using this incident as justifiable cause to create chaos.

 

And I'm gonna butt in

 

That kind of people exists everywhere, in every riot/protest, and so on there's always a group of people that go there just to cause havoc and chaos

[John Casey 25]

And I'm gonna butt in

 

That kind of people exists everywhere, in every riot/protest, and so on there's always a group of people that go there just to cause havoc and chaos

 

True, but I'm noticing these people vastly outnumber those with common sense this time around.  Just today as I was watching I think Anderson Cooper or that idiot Wolf Blitzer, they were interviewing some father and his kid about all the craziness and some jackass started throwing things at them from the background.

 

These kind of people exist everywhere to be sure, but it's kind of fascinating how this time around they're severely drowning out those with an actual voice.  To the few with common sense and intelligence, more power to you.  But from what I've seen so far, they only make up like 5% of the damn town.  Hence, the whole town gets zero pity from me.

 

And as a side...that kid punched the cop at least twice.  He is not even remotely the innocent little martyr they're all making him out to be.  He's nothing more than a symbol for civil disobedience, of the very uncivil kind.

Edited November 25, 2014 by John Casey

[Sora_Roxas26 124]

 

Not really since its lack of sufficient evidence. I can go commit a crime but leave little to no evidence behind, doesn't mean I didn't do it.

Great, you understood what a riot is. This doesn't make them crazy since thats like saying they have no understandable reason at all which they do. They have a good reason, no matter what.

 

Oh and hey, don't attack people on this site even in an argument. Its rude and unnecessary. We can disagree all we want, but thats one line you cannot cross. I'll edit those out. Lets make sure that does not happen again.

I didn't attack you, and you clearly aren't paying attention, since all the news outlets that are actually going through all the evidence are saying the cop was telling the truth and the evidence supports it, and the Grand Jury, who are the only people who saw every piece of evidence, didn't think he should even by put on trial for ANY crime at all, so the evidence proves you quite wrong

 

 

But there's been a shit ton of peaceful stand-ins and protests before this too. There are always going to be awful people who take advantage of a situation like this because they feed off of the chaos and anarchy. Mike Brown's parents have literally asked that people don't riot, so just notice that the people who really want change to happen aren't the ones involved in the destructive riots in the first place.

I know that, I said THE RIOTERS are crazy, not the peaceful protesters Edited November 26, 2014 by Shana09