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So, Judging From The Darkness/Seriousness Of "Kingdom Hearts 3D:  Dream, Drop, Distance", Will The Story Of "Kingdom Hearts III" Be Even DARKER?!?!

 

I Recall Reading Somewhere How Tetsuya Nomura Wanted To Make "Kingdom Hearts III" Be "Less Disney-Like", Which Most-Likely Means The Worlds Will Not Be Following Their Respective Storylines So Light-Heartedly.  We Might Even See Xehanort's Organization Strike Down One Or Two Disney Characters (Probably Villains They Were Trying To Work With).

 

What Do YOU Think?  Will The Story Of "Kingdom Hearts III" Be Intense/Serious?  Why?  Or Why Not?

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Given the extreme reluctance to showcase The Hunchback of Notre Dame's themes of genocide, the dangers of zeal, sexual frustration, and the prospect of eternal damnation, I'm inclined to believe that the series is nowhere near trying to become as "dark" as people seem to think it is.

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So, Judging From The Darkness/Seriousness Of "Kingdom Hearts 3D:  Dream, Drop, Distance", Will The Story Of "Kingdom Hearts III" Be Even DARKER?!?!

 

I Recall Reading Somewhere How Tetsuya Nomura Wanted To Make "Kingdom Hearts III" Be "Less Disney-Like", Which Most-Likely Means The Worlds Will Not Be Following Their Respective Storylines So Light-Heartedly.  We Might Even See Xehanort's Organization Strike Down One Or Two Disney Characters (Probably Villains They Were Trying To Work With).

 

What Do YOU Think?  Will The Story Of "Kingdom Hearts III" Be Intense/Serious?  Why?  Or Why Not?

I'd love to see your source for that. I don't remember hearing this at all.

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Given the extreme reluctance to showcase The Hunchback of Notre Dame's themes of genocide, the dangers of zeal, sexual frustration, and the prospect of eternal damnation, I'm inclined to believe that the series is nowhere near trying to become as "dark" as people seem to think it is.

 

I keep asking why KH would be concerned in being so light if even Disney movies itself weren't, tho x.x

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I'd love to see your source for that. I don't remember hearing this at all.

I'm no source, but I do recall Nomura saying that he didn't want it be so "Disney-Like" what that means however i don't know...

 

 

I love the series, but I often feel that it is a little too lighthearted, and Disney kinda took away the darker themes... like ignoring the fact that every heartless used to be a living person, and are more or less lost forever. Also annoyed that they replace the word "dead" with "defeated", but I understand  That being said, I've never played the darker games, like I heard BBS is pretty dark... and DDD is dark? okay.

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I'm no source, but I do recall Nomura saying that he didn't want it be so "Disney-Like" what that means however i don't know...

 

 

I love the series, but I often feel that it is a little too lighthearted, and Disney kinda took away the darker themes... like ignoring the fact that every heartless used to be a living person, and are more or less lost forever. Also annoyed that they replace the word "dead" with "defeated", but I understand  That being said, I've never played the darker games, like I heard BBS is pretty dark... and DDD is dark? okathey 

Xemnas says if he were to die so easily.in2.5 kh2fm

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Xemnas says if he were to die so easily.in2.5 kh2fm

people say die quite a bit in KH

Ventus says he's scared to death

I think I've mentioned this a dozen times now, but it's a quota system for video game ratings. You can only say "bad" words so many times, same with violent actions or sexual innuendos

So thy changed the words to get the rating they want, since KH being T rated ir higher would cut off a fair bit of their demographic

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people say die quite a bit in KH

Ventus says he's scared to death

I think I've mentioned this a dozen times now, but it's a quota system for video game ratings. You can only say "bad" words so many times, same with violent actions or sexual innuendos

So thy changed the words to get the rating they want, since KH being T rated ir higher would cut off a fair bit of their demographic

Kinda of a shame.... their really is so much you can do with a game rated 10+, they would have a lot more freedom, their quota would skyrocket! Have you played ant Teen rated games? Just look at Uncharted. Besides anyone who played the first few games, no matter how young would be a teenager at the very least... I know Square wouldn't dare touch the rating system, but it would remove the whole censorship problem that Kingdom Hearts has been having... that saves time AND money!

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Kinda of a shame.... their really is so much you can do with a game rated 10+, they would have a lot more freedom, their quota would skyrocket! Have you played ant Teen rated games? Just look at Uncharted. Besides anyone who played the first few games, no matter how young would be a teenager at the very least... I know Square wouldn't dare touch the rating system, but it would remove the whole censorship problem that Kingdom Hearts has been having... that saves time AND money!

it wouldn't save them money, since they'd probably lose a lot of kid's sales, unfortunately. Personally I think if Disney can get away with it in a G rated movie though, a game should be able to with an E rating

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I want KH3 to be fairly dark and intense, but not TOO dark. I mean, not like a plot where everyone is emo and angsty and such. But I think KH1, DDD and KHCoded are far too lighthearted, so not something like that. I hope it'll be on the level of BBS and COM dark, if not a little bit more. Hopefully, Sora will also have learned from his mistakes in DDD for once and become a little bit less naive. Not more cynical, as the friendship thing makes him who he is IMO and he shouldn't drop that, but he should be a bit more like how someone at the age of 17/18 would act. Like me, I'm 17, and I don't think friendship can magically solve everything either. Had too many bad experiences for that. Since I'm kinda cynical it's especially grating for me to hear Sora talk about all of that. I hope that the main characters (I mean Sora, Donald and Goofy) actually go through some angst this time (like in KHCoM) and instead of having to be saved like always I hope they overcome it themselves this time. But please... don't let Elsa die if she'd be in KH3, haha.

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Kingdom Hearts III will be the darkest title of all.  The Keyblade War is hinted to begin again you you put all of the pieces together and everyone knows how dark, bloody, and horrifying that conflict was.  If it does begin again, we will see it rage and witness the horrors that this war possessed that caused the light to fall to darkness.  If you ask me, this title will be rated E10+ to T. The latter is very much possible and maybe likely.

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No one can say how dark it'll be (or won't be) until it comes out, but I'm hoping KH3 will at least be intense enough to be fitting for a finale. I say "intense" and not "dark" because I think there's a difference between the two. Intense just means stronger emotions with the story, where the atmosphere feels amped up -- this is the final confrontation. Note that doesn't just mean negative emotions. Positive ones, too, which I think a lot of people are overlooking.

 

Dark, on the other hand, has a more negative connotation when I apply it to KH. It seems when people say they want it darker, they want it more mature, because I guess they're embarrassed to play a game with Mickey Mouse in it. Most of the arguments I hear for a "darker" Kingdom Hearts is to do things like kill off characters. So far, no one has yet to convince me why a character needs to die without relying on arguments boiling down to, "Well, we need things serious so someone's gotta go!" But there haven't been any convincing arguments for doing so that make sense thematically. When they want it dark, it seems they just want it more pessimistic and negative, which isn't Kingdom Hearts at all. Nothing's ever seemed hopeless to me, but at the same time, no one in the story has yet to get a happy ending, so I don't understand why people keep thinking no one is suffering enough. Just look at where everyone is and tell me it needs to be darker.

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Considering how dark the series has gotten, I think Kingdom Hearts III will be the most grim out of the Xehanort Saga!  I mean sure, that doesn't mean the game won't have its lighthearted moments, because there will obviously be lighthearted moments to give us peace of mind, but referring to the bigger plot and the whole endgame with Xehanort, I consider that Kingdom Hearts III will be appropriately dark.

 

Scores must be settled.  Justice must be brought.  Lives that have been ruined and wronged must be righted.  The worlds, which are hanging by a thread, need to be saved.  A madman must be stopped from causing an apocalypse.  When you piece together all of these elements, it really symbolizes just how intense and dramatic Kingdom Hearts III will be.  There will be humor and heart, of course, because hello, that's part of what makes Kingdom Hearts what it is.  But the story will be dark enough that it'll be satisfying, and let me say that it'll be one hell of a finale!  I'm sure Nomura will throw in some unexpected and mind bending revelations and plot twists for good measure, which makes me all the more excited! :D

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The only thing to make Kingdom Hearts III dark is by putting it in a "dark times" setting like the Holocaust or the Book of Exodus. The Dark Ages would be sufficient.

I just hope it's got a little bit of mature elements like profanity, violence and almost anything you see in the much darker Final Fantasy series.

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I just hope it's got a little bit of mature elements like profanity, violence and almost anything you see in the much darker Final Fantasy series.

 

I Sincerely Doubt DISNEY Would Approve Of Such "Inappropriate Theme(s)".  Square Enix Has Stated How "Kingdom Hearts III" Is STILL A Disney-Title.

 

 

Besides, I Noticed How "Final Fantasy 7 & 8" (The Only Two I've Ever Played) Are Much More Realistic, Even Though They Have The Same Positive Themes As Kingdom Hearts, They ARE Much Darker!!

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I agree with you completely about the whole rare usage of the words "death" or "killed". I had a similar thing with Big Hero 6, it too hardly ever used the words relating to death ("dead" only used once).

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